If that is the case, how come they are active orally?
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If that is the case, how come they are active orally?
Deinonychus
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Furthermore it is fairly easy for experienced psychedelic users to tell between a tryptamine and a phenethylamine. Narrowing things down further into ergoloids versus NBOMes they are not very similar in subjective feelings, there is a hell of a lot more depth on the ergoloid side of things. So not only does oral activity speak for something other than an NBOMe in the new-lysergics blotters, the resulting action further differentiates them.
AnAlleyCat
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erg... harsh welcoming so it seems... sigh...
As someone else pointed out though... no... I'm not calling nichols a dumbass... but I might use the label for a few people here. I assumed people would be kinder here, posting reports is far from my thing, but I decided I'd save a couple people a few bucks, considering most people are probably only interested in this in order to find a new legal compound just as potent by weight. If that's what you are looking for, it's not here. If you are interested in the novelty of it, then please by all means... help contribute... already took the initial steps for the community.
Regarding the ergs... Yes the ergs are out... does that mean this research is a joke now... not by a long shot. Completely different chapter, different class, different series. Don't like it... get out of this thread and go to an erg thread... Are the erg analogues fake? As solipsis pointed out... not at all... are some vendors selling LSD really in fact selling these analogues, for sure some are, but if you think someone can pass off NBOMe as an LSD analogue still... you are not well versed by any means, it's pretty unlikely.
To prevent this thread from regressing and becoming trash... let's actually talk about the topic at hand. Given first hand experience, this compound is less potent by at least an order. I hypothesis that it's activity is two orders less potent than initially assumed. 10mg buccal didn't yield any results.
I'm curious about this letter from DEN, but I am skeptical to a degree, crazy if DEN really just shot a reply back like that. Interesting about the solubility, I'll have to conduct some tests and see for myself. It did dissolve readily in ethanol, no shocker there. When working with the material, it is pretty clear that it is not as potent. When working with other NBOMes (not purposely consuming), I find myself getting that initial alarming sensation accompanied with a bit of hypertension and that flush feeling. It's pretty hard to avoid unless you are working with a very small quantity or wearing proper protection, respirator, gloves, and a ounce of careful. With this compound though, that was not the case. After preparing it, I found that I had easily avoided the mild system shock that it's cousins can cause and that alone was definitely noteworthy.
Reading up on some other similar chemical structures and their related activity, I think there is a good chance that it may be quite less potent. It'll be a long time coming until I can confirm this, but so far 10mg hasn't yielded worthwhile results. Based on things like the DOx NBOMe derivatives, I assumed that it may in fact be less potent from 2C NBOMes, though I assumed it was about as potent at the time. Now it seems it's even less potent. Anyone care to ask DEN to speculate some more based on my findings? haha
I wouldn't suggest anyone dive in, but I get the sense that activity might not start until 100mg+
As someone else pointed out though... no... I'm not calling nichols a dumbass... but I might use the label for a few people here. I assumed people would be kinder here, posting reports is far from my thing, but I decided I'd save a couple people a few bucks, considering most people are probably only interested in this in order to find a new legal compound just as potent by weight. If that's what you are looking for, it's not here. If you are interested in the novelty of it, then please by all means... help contribute... already took the initial steps for the community.
Regarding the ergs... Yes the ergs are out... does that mean this research is a joke now... not by a long shot. Completely different chapter, different class, different series. Don't like it... get out of this thread and go to an erg thread... Are the erg analogues fake? As solipsis pointed out... not at all... are some vendors selling LSD really in fact selling these analogues, for sure some are, but if you think someone can pass off NBOMe as an LSD analogue still... you are not well versed by any means, it's pretty unlikely.
To prevent this thread from regressing and becoming trash... let's actually talk about the topic at hand. Given first hand experience, this compound is less potent by at least an order. I hypothesis that it's activity is two orders less potent than initially assumed. 10mg buccal didn't yield any results.
I'm curious about this letter from DEN, but I am skeptical to a degree, crazy if DEN really just shot a reply back like that. Interesting about the solubility, I'll have to conduct some tests and see for myself. It did dissolve readily in ethanol, no shocker there. When working with the material, it is pretty clear that it is not as potent. When working with other NBOMes (not purposely consuming), I find myself getting that initial alarming sensation accompanied with a bit of hypertension and that flush feeling. It's pretty hard to avoid unless you are working with a very small quantity or wearing proper protection, respirator, gloves, and a ounce of careful. With this compound though, that was not the case. After preparing it, I found that I had easily avoided the mild system shock that it's cousins can cause and that alone was definitely noteworthy.
Reading up on some other similar chemical structures and their related activity, I think there is a good chance that it may be quite less potent. It'll be a long time coming until I can confirm this, but so far 10mg hasn't yielded worthwhile results. Based on things like the DOx NBOMe derivatives, I assumed that it may in fact be less potent from 2C NBOMes, though I assumed it was about as potent at the time. Now it seems it's even less potent. Anyone care to ask DEN to speculate some more based on my findings? haha
I wouldn't suggest anyone dive in, but I get the sense that activity might not start until 100mg+
Bigazznugz
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hey if you don't believe that that email is real soon email soon you will reply man he replied to me and like an hour on Sunday. all I did was tell him that this, chem is circulating around and that nobody knows anything about it and that I'm a big fan of harm reduction and a supporter of maps. trust me I don't have the time to make up a letter on a topic that I have no idea about it is legit man google it look up his name shoot a message at his Purdue .edu email yeah but thank you for the trip report anyway man It pretty much confirms what I kind of thought that its crap