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25C-TMOPA hcl 2-(4-chloro-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-[(2,3,4- trimethoxyphenyl)methyl]ethanamine
I noticed that a vendor is selling this for around the same price as nbomes but I google it and I find any information on it so if anybody knows anything vabout this and whether it is even to active I would greatly appreciate it

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Courtesy of seensofar, drugs-forum
 
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I'd heard that certain vendors were seemingly pulling 25I from their shelves. I speculated that they wouldn't be taking it off their shelves until they had a replacement waiting in the wings, because you can still buy it legally in the US. I vended – 1000% past tense – and that's what I would have done, waiting till I could get something to replace a material were it banned in the majority of the EU countries, the UK, and some of all of the United States. I wonder if this might be the first of various 25X-TMOPA, with this new substitution pattern becoming the class to replace the NBOMes to one extent or another.

Solipsis said:
So that would be the same as C30-NBOMe:
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The difference between C30-NBOMe, which is the worst name ever considering the structure, and this 25C-TMOPA, which makes at least a lot more sense as an abbreviation of trimethoxy substituted NBOMes, is that the three methoxy groups are oriented 'meta-para-meta' in C30 and 'ortho-meta-para' in the TMOPA.

I wonder if the meta-para-mets substitution pattern somehow was more challenging to synthesize than the 'ortho-meta-para'.

I nominate this for a small and handy, in case this chemical or other 2,3,4-trimethoxy NBOMes, or both, end up being a replacement to some significant extent to the ordinary NBOMes. And if it does we will want to keep our eyes on how it develops, to try and work out the nature of the drug and its risks in a central thread so that we as Bluelighters can try to spread accurate data early to try and prevent trainwrecks to the best of our abilities.
 
For what it's worth, the last post in the ADD thread that Solipsis posted mentions that C30-NBOMe is the 2,3,4-trimethoxybenzyl isomer of 25C-TMOPA.
 
Well I actually posted (to my knowledge) the first thread on C30, because it was being promoted for a group buy, before the ADD thread got started. The compound being advertised under that name is the one in Solipsis' picture, meta-para-meta. I'm not saying that the vendors got it wrong, but if it were decisively determined that the 2,3,4- compound was in fact what was really meant by C30, then it was indeed the vendors that screwed it up and misidentified their produce, and the image in the post is itself the 3,4,5, not the 2,3,4.
 
morninggloryseed said:
Can I trip balls of this or something? ;)
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I really wish I had an answer to this question for you. I'm not sure if this substitution pattern was ever examined by Ralf Heim or David Nichols, and as they are the only real sources on SAR for the N-Benzylated phenethylamines, I think the only real way to determine the activity is by tasting it. It's possible that this pattern will produce total inactivity due to steric hindrance. It's possible that the subjective effects will be modified while retaining potency. It's also possible that it will give an even greater increase in potency than the 2-methoxybenzyl substituent did. It might also make your asshole turn inside out and start talking to you. I guess we'll just have to wait for human trials to know for sure about any rise or loss in potency, change in subjective effects, or inverted-sentient-assholism that this substitution pattern may grant.
 
SeenSoFar said:
I really wish I had an answer to this question for you. I'm not sure if this substitution pattern was ever examined by Ralf Heim or David Nichols, and as they are the only real sources on SAR for the N-Benzylated phenethylamines, I think the only real way to determine the activity is by tasting it. It's possible that this pattern will produce total inactivity due to steric hindrance. It's possible that the subjective effects will be modified while retaining potency. It's also possible that it will give an even greater increase in potency than the 2-methoxybenzyl substituent did. It might also make your asshole turn inside out and start talking to you. I guess we'll just have to wait for human trials to know for sure about any rise or loss in potency, change in subjective effects, or inverted-sentient-assholism that this substitution pattern may grant.
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I lost it here, +1 internet sir.
 
morninggloryseed said:
Wait so this tapioca nbome makes people assholes and causes prolapsed rectum? That doesn't sound fun.
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Well, I was more implying that the compound may cause a prolapsed rectum that subsequently becomes sentient and begins to hold conversations with it's owner. Your postulation is equally valid, however! I also love how you refer to it as 'tapioca', that sounds like a good street name!

infantannihilator said:
I lost it here, +1 internet sir.
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Glad I could give you a laugh!

In all seriousness though, I'm a little curious about this substitution pattern. It might prove interesting, if for no other reason than to give a whole new batch of unregulated compounds for those who live in places where the NBOMe series has been regulated.
 
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Oh yes I see, I was assuming things and didn't think to 'count' the substitution pattern.

Well let's wait till actual factual or experiential information comes streaming in - at which point this thread will need some moderation. ;)
 
I think that the rush of new compounds tends to coincide with the regulation of their predecessors. This has been the pattern that I have noted many times in the past anyway. I will be receiving some of this shortly, when I do I will assay it ASAP and let everyone know the results. Its second on my list of compounds to assay, after RH-34, so hopefully I will be able to get my results out there quickly, time permitting.
 
At least ortho-meta-para will be less likely to cause the inevitable 'Oh my gawd dewd, it's like, mescaline having sex with 2C-C! Feels good maaannnnn!' than the C30 substitution (meta-para-meta) seems to produce.
 
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