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The Big & Dandy Nootropics Thread

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Some recent findings with Nootropics:

Hydergine:
- Is still one of my favourite drugs.
- I take it in cycles, roughly 3 weeks on, 2 weeks off.
- It WILL exasperate Orthostatic Hypotension! Best not taken with Alcohol, or on a day one intends to fly (I fainted on a plane due to funky depressurization).

Modafinil:
- Recently had the chance to try - this stuff is miraculous! It is *extremely* useful for someone like me who suffers from chronic fatigue.
- Excellent synergy with Hydergine
- Only disadvantages is that it is WAY expensive and can get anxiogenic toward the end on higher doses.

Adrafinil:
- Superior to Modafinil in every way. Has all of the above, minus negatives.
- Palpably longer-acting than modafinil.
- Is actually more stim-like than modafinil (for me).
- Only negative for me is liver-health concerns.

Nefiracetam
- I had long closed the book on this one as being just-another-depression-inducing 'racetam, yet lo and behold, I've been trying it again in combination with Hydergine and Adrafinil and I do not get any depressive symptoms! And for one, it does what it is supposed to do: act as a cereberal enhancer. HOWEVER, it IS prone to exaggerating ANY unpleasant emotions that may come up - unlike hydergine alone which appears to have definite mood enhancing effects. This appears to be due to a specific synergy between it and hydergine - OR due to the fact that I'm a very different person now from the time I last tried it.

And while hydergine appears to enhance mood, memory, language, philosophical thought and sensory acuity; Nefiracetam appears to enhance problem-solving and alertness, primarily. I actually got so excited about this finding that I ordered a small amount of Aniracetam to try :D


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Why do I take Nootropics? The reason is that in the year after I stopped my benzo habit, I've become distinctly aware of JUST how deep into dementia I'd immersed my mind while on benzos. Nootropics may not fix whatever damage was done, but at least they mitigate its effects...
 
I've skimmed through the thread and I am confused and overwhelmed by the number of chemicals/supplements being discussed.

I am having exams in less than 2 months and I barely studied anything. Motivation to do work is almost non-existence and my mind tends to wander a lot while trying to study, I find it hard to concentrate, and I would often catch myself browsing the web for irrelevant stuff (disconnecting while studying is not an option since I need it for study resources). The lack of motivation extends into almost everything I want to do, including going to the gym. My primary concern at the moment is studying though.

I also read about the effect of nootropics on the ability to communicate/flow of words, which interested me as I am a quite introverted person and sometimes have hard time articulating my thoughts into speech. Have many people noticed this?

The standard seem 800mg-1600mg piracetam daily, with some people taking more heroic doses. What is the ideal to start with, and should I take one dose daily or spread it throughout the day?

A choline supplement seems necessary, but not sure which one to take, and how much.

Hydergine? It is in the list of many people in this thread but is any good? Any dangers from it?

Any other noteworthy nootropic or supplement to add? Any other -racetams synergise with piracetame? Mind you I don't want to be nomming a lot of nootropics, and would like to keep the list short.

Also what would be a clean not-very-strong stimulant to use to get an extra kick when needed? I heard about Mucuna being used as a study aid? Is it any good? What about Modafinil?
Caffeine seems to have no noticeable effect unless I up the dose a bit, at which point it can get jittery.

Thanks in forward.

P.S. I would prefer to be able to buy everything w/o prescription. Any idea of websites/stores where I could buy the stuff in the UK (I am assuming this doesn't fall under the standard vendor discussion rules, if it does, I apologise)
 
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Piracetam is a great nootropic, but I am not sure if it can help with motivation. Some stimulant would be better for motivation and studying, though I only recommend this, if you can't work at all.

I also read about the effect of nootropics on the ability to communicate/flow of words, which interested me as I am a quite introverted person and sometimes have hard time articulating my thoughts into speech. Have many people noticed this?
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I don't know about others, but recently I noticed this effect.

The standard seem 800mg-1600mg piracetam daily, with some people taking more heroic doses. What is the ideal to start with, and should I take one dose daily or spread it throughout the day?
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First of all, don't take piracetam longer than 4-6 weeks, just because tolerance makes it useless. I will be better to make a break for 4 weeks and start another piracetam course.
As for dosages, 800-1600 mg is optimal for me.
It is better spread your dose into equal parts and take them all before evening(6 PM), because sometimes piracetam causes sleep problems.
Also, note, that piracetam can cause "withdrawal", so taper your dose. Like:
1 week: 400 mg 2-3 times per day
2-3 weeks: 400 mg 3-4 times per day
4 week: 400 mg 2 times per day

I never cared about choline, so I can't really comment on this. But you can just eat 2-3 eggs per day to get enough choline.

As for piracetam analogs, I heared that pramiracetam is one of the best, and aniracetam is good too.

P.S. I would prefer to be able to buy everything w/o prescription. Any idea of websites/stores where I could buy the stuff in the UK (I am assuming this doesn't fall under the standard vendor discussion rules, if it does, I apologise)
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I think it falls, but you can easily google websites where you can buy racetams in bulk(100-1000 g).
 
I've been taking 3200 mg piracetam just about every day for the past 25 days. Very nice stuff, but I learned the hard way that it combines with alcohol the way shit combines with a fan. Now, I can just not take it on days that I plan on drinking, but that makes me feel very hazy - not hazier than I ever was before trying piracetam, it's more like the piracetam just makes too much of a difference which makes it very hard to go back to not taking it.

Anyway, my question is, does anyone have any experience with combining other racetams with alcohol? A quick Google search points to aniracetam having similar effects on alcohol as piracetam does, but oxiracetam might not. If oxiracetam really doesn't mess with alcohol, that'd be perfect, as I could just take that instead of piracetam if I want to drink.
 
Piracetam - Weak but good. A nice intro to the racetams.
Pramiracetam - Kills emotions. Similar to piracetam in other ways, but much more potent so lower dose.

ANIRACETAM - the magical beautiful racetam. Kills my anxiety, lifts my boredom ergo my mood as well, potentiates fuckin everything and takes away hangovers from alcohol/mdma, increased ability to perceive more new info at once (like i have no peripheral vision almost), deepened color contrast/saturation, just to name a few benefits I've noticed. I can get away with taking a single dose of 750mg a day with choline and be good, vs. having to gulp down piracetam all day
 
I've tried skimming this post, but it's so long I thought I'd put another issue up for discussion.

Since exams have finished, I've been off my usual stack for the last couple of weeks. I'm taking summer semester, but I want to initiate a new stack to work around more frequent (less than 3x a week) drinking. Even with my last stack I rotated in usage of dexedrine and adderall (20mg a day) and still drank at least once a week. However, I noticed my anxiety and general edginess would increase on rest-days and am looking for something to keep those things smoothed out.

This was my last stack:

Multivitamin
Choline 500mg
Piracetam 2g (2x a day)
Aniracetam 750mg (2x a day)

Before Bed:
Melatonin 6mg

Occasionally on rest days (when I'm not doing anything else and just need to numb out):
Clonazepam 1mg
and/or
Zopiclone 3.25mg
Unfortunately I no longer have access to these scripts.


I'm aware that some of this content may be appropriate for other forums. Maybe I should phrase it like this: I like to study hard, focus, learn, and achieve euphoria and clarity whilst doing so. Sometimes, however, I also like to get numb and stupefied. I feel I need to balance these two (admittedly competing) desires. Any help would be much appreciated.
 
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I did.

Nice nootropics reminding of piracetam, but quite different in the effects(more stimulating and pronounced). I prefer Noopept over piracetam, but I haven't tried other racetams(except for phenylpiracetam).
 
I'm new to nootropics :P

Hey Im completely new to nootropics in fact i just heard of them yesterday.
I actually came on the idea from the movie Limitless which as i am aware Completely over exagerates the effects of nootropics. My one concern is that i am 15 and not sure if it is wise to start at this age.
Also What is the most affective for memory and alertness?? Also i read that some nootrpics reverse the aging process of the brain is this true??
and last question can I take several different nootropics at the same time???
Ty
 
The Smoking Man said:
I've been taking 3200 mg piracetam just about every day for the past 25 days. Very nice stuff, but I learned the hard way that it combines with alcohol the way shit combines with a fan. Now, I can just not take it on days that I plan on drinking, but that makes me feel very hazy - not hazier than I ever was before trying piracetam, it's more like the piracetam just makes too much of a difference which makes it very hard to go back to not taking it.

Anyway, my question is, does anyone have any experience with combining other racetams with alcohol? A quick Google search points to aniracetam having similar effects on alcohol as piracetam does, but oxiracetam might not. If oxiracetam really doesn't mess with alcohol, that'd be perfect, as I could just take that instead of piracetam if I want to drink.
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i have experience with piracetam regimen, and now im starting a new one. it does change and increase the effects of alcohol 3x depending on the type of ethanol (whisky, vodka, etc), particularly takes out brain fog (the fun) and makes it way more sedating - one belgium beer and it might be too much before work. 8) some people hate it, some love it, it serves to remind me how alcohol makes mestupid and dont need it. take it as an advantage. ;)

cryptix420 said:
ANIRACETAM - the magical beautiful racetam. Kills my anxiety, lifts my boredom ergo my mood as well, potentiates fuckin everything and takes away hangovers from alcohol/mdma, increased ability to perceive more new info at once (like i have no peripheral vision almost), deepened color contrast/saturation, just to name a few benefits I've noticed. I can get away with taking a single dose of 750mg a day with choline and be good, vs. having to gulp down piracetam all day
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this is my first choice in my next nootropics list. :D in heard so many good things of piracetam + aniracetam, and it makes total sense an exponential synergy of a fat-soluble with water-soluble racetam.

can you comment about this combo?
 
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So small question what the difference between Hydergine and Hydergine FAS what's more favourable?
 
How is my stack?

i have only started taking the piracetam and have yet to get the other supplements but this is my plan:

800mg piracetam
500mg omega 3 fatty acid
600mg Alpha GPC
4.5mg hydergine

i plan to take these once daily with a generic multivitamin

are these safe for long term daily use?
are these doses good?
what kind of dosing regimen should i be using?
should i take these all at once?
should i take 1200mg of lecithin instead of the alpha gpc?
is there anything else i should add?

sorry for having so many questions but this is where i'm at with the research i've done. some of these seem to be disputed often on message boards but i trust bl to have more knowledge on these topics than those other boards so i was just hoping to get a more definitive answer on these questions here.
 
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I'm trying low doses selegiline (l-deprenyl) with my piracetam + choline basic combo. Take 2,5mg selegiline 2/3x a week. Too early to really tell the effects right now, but I'm serching for better motivation, concentration, memory recall.
 
PsychedelicPeptide said:
I hope this is a joke!

Daily AMT?!?!?

Do you get any physical activity? What about replenishing your (likely depleted) neurotransmitter stores?

Also do people notice that your pupils are always big?
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LMAO If that's a joke, that's pretty hilarious. If it's not a joke, that's pretty worrying and kinda sad but at the same time still pretty hilarious (funny that these powerful psychedelics are available to people who treat them like candy ?). :\ Considering the rest of the post it's probably not, though.
 
Nootropic Stack and Questions

i am well aware of the mega thread on nootropics but i wasn't getting any responses there so i made this post as this is something i would like to get started on in the near future.

i have only started taking the piracetam and have yet to get the other supplements but this is my plan:

800mg piracetam
500mg omega 3 fatty acid
600mg Alpha GPC
4.5mg hydergine

i plan to take these once daily with a generic multivitamin

are these safe for long term daily use?
are these doses good?
am i fine taking these all together once in the morning or should i be dosing differently?
should i take 1200mg of lecithin instead of the alpha gpc?

sorry for having so many questions but this is where i'm at with the research i've done. some of these seem to be disputed often on message boards but i trust bl to have more knowledge on these topics than those other boards so i was just hoping to get a more definitive answer on these questions here.
 
so am i fine taking these once a day all at the same time in the morning or is there a better way to go about dosing? i've read something about better affects being achieved with a different dosing schedule but not very many details were posted. i wasn't sure if thats a normal dose for hydergine tho as i've read 1mg 3 times a day in most places but sources for hydergine seem to all be in 4.5mg pills/capsules/w.e they are. why is alpha gpc a waste of money? are you saying that alpha gpc and lecithin work the same? and thanks for just moving the post here so i don't get any more replies you're a big help mod. you really should've just deleted the thread instead since i have almost the same exact post 3 posts up. i mean shit if you were so quick to move my thread to a b&d then why don't you go down the front page and move every thread to their respective b&d's. pretty much every single thread on these forums could be moved to a b&d so you better get started cuz you've got a lot of work to do.
 
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My current stack is:

2000-4000mg of piracetam a day (in one to two doses)
600mg of MG
Multi vit
2400mg fish oil
B-complex vitamin
vitamin d-3 2000 IU I believe
400mg CoQ10
82mg asprin
26g of protein in protein powder

i also take 30mg of amphetamine a day

Thinking I might add .125mg a night of pramipexole back into my regiment as it has absolutely outstanding results on my SAD. Completely gets rid of it, and is as good if not better than ketamine.
 
I recently found out that I have access to Aniracetam, however, it is slightly expensive.

I already have around 100 800mg Piracetam caps. (When I got mine, the site I use didn't have bulk)

Do you guys think the significant difference in price is worth it?

I'm curious as I'm not familiar with the dosages of Aniracetam but I've heard it is excellent and for some people, it works where Piracetam does not.
 
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