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4-fluoromethamphetamine

Generally speaking, applying both Amphetamines and Cathinones, primary amine compounds are more peripheral and cause more intense side-effect, due to their strong norepinephrinergic effect. And you'll be able to understand from this fact, actually Amphetamine is about ten-fold acutely toxic than methanphetamine, based on LD50. If this might be the same in fluorine substituted analogues (not confirmed due to lack of articles) it seems to need more attention when using this as legal alternative to AMP/MAP.
 
/navarone/ said:
^ lol! You where definetly not given 4-fa!
Most likely a crappy beta-keto analogue off some dishonest vendor considering the dose and duration you reported.

Probably not every person in this thread actually took what he though it was, the number of dishonest vendors online who acquire bulk quantities of crap like cathinones and then sell em under various names is quite high.
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No i'm just hardcore;)
200mg of either 4-fa or 4-fma is quite a massive dose and i dont recommend it.
I usually did smaller shots but that was about the highest i went..

honestly i did consider that the 4-fma might just be the 4-f-methcathinone, but i had no real way of telling and tbh i trust my vendor.

The 4-fma showed no signs of degradation or discolouration when dissolved in water for days, which cathinones usually turn a yellowish colour fairly quickly.

does that sound right?
cathinones degrade to ephedrines while amphetamines do not?
 
If you speak the truth then I'm seriously worried about your health man.
The frequently reported phenomena of RCs turning yellow is actually quite peculiar and IMO a sign of a very unclean product. Ephedrine HCl and base are plain white which makes me wonder why so many cathinones tend to turn yellowish. Yeah cathinones have a propensity to turn into ephedrines due to the keto group being very attractive to protons.

Ebola:
It could be possible that the fluoro group increases affinity for adrenalin/metanephrine-N-demethylase considering some added electronegativity on the 4th position (resembling catecholamines a lil bit more), if I'm not wrong N-demethylation is an essential step before MAO comes in and chews the amine away.
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/navarone/ said:
If you speak the truth then I'm seriously worried about your health man.
The frequently reported phenomena of RCs turning yellow is actually quite peculiar and IMO a sign of a very unclean product. Ephedrine HCl and base are plain white which makes me wonder why so many cathinones tend to turn yellowish. Yeah cathinones have a propensity to turn into ephedrines due to the keto group being very attractive to protons.
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lol i know what im doing i swear:o

but seriously take the cleanest brilliant white methylone you can find and dissolve it in a minimum of water, then leave it for 2-3 days.

i promise it will be a yellowish colour similar to either piss or tequila, whichever you prefer too imagine.
 
Unlike 4fa, preliminary reports show 4fma to be VERY active at 10-50 mg.
Given the lack of data, and potential for neurotoxicity, people should tread with great caution.

ebola
 
I phrased that very poorly. I meant to say that responses within this range have varied between mild but quite noticeable and physically uncomfortable due to intensity.

Regardless, the take home is not to dose similarly to as one would with 4fa right off the bat.

ebola
 
harm reduction

Ok, I know there are no witch doctors around but what do you guys recommend for harm reduction? I have tried atypical antipsychotics with no avail. Only a combination of Zoloft(max dosage)+bentzo has had any impact. How much is 4fma dopaminergic, that I have wondereded? Maybe I need some dopaminergic agonist/antagonist? I have read about Selegiline, maybe this compound could help me or is just plain suicide? With an SSRI I know it is ... sorry if off topic. Any help is appreciated.
 
There are some reports of tinnitus after some heavy use of 4-FMA. Is there some data in an inner ear possible toxicity? (I've aware that all stims can do this if over done)
 
i hear ringing tones but i like them (but i didnt do 4-fma)

question :)

is this legal in germany? (they dont have sth like an analogue act)
 
it still is but the next BTMG update will also make it illegal, so better hurry ^^
 
There are some reports of tinnitus after some heavy use of 4-FMA. Is there some data in an inner ear possible toxicity? (I've aware that all stims can do this if over done)
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All stimulating amphetamines can cause these types of effects temporarily. I have no idea whether it can lead to permanent toxicity, but if it does, such is rare.

ebola
 
I find 4 Fluoroamphtamine most effective when insufflated. Too bad the one minute burning sensation throughout the nostril is almost not worth it. 50mg is great, but idk if it'll be worth the hurt for some.
 
sighhill said:
I find 4 Fluoroamphtamine most effective when insufflated. Too bad the one minute burning sensation throughout the nostril is almost not worth it. 50mg is great, but idk if it'll be worth the hurt for some.
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is the burning like meth burn or worse? meth does feel like you just snorted sulfuric acid,but it goes away fast and the adrenaline rush you get from the intense burn turns straight into a rush of energy.i kind of ike the burn.
 
I've snuffed 50mg of 4-fma. Effects are close to 4-fa but are little bit more intense for such doses, but trip is shorter (30mins and some effects already are finished).
Effects:
short effects: empathy, weightlessness
long-term effects: stimulation

So main action is about 40mins. And I can't estimate duration of stimulative effects but it's duration is longer. I hope we'll estimate it soon.
 
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