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The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)

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Esoterik said:
Anyone got experience with low dose oral 2c-e, in the 4-5 mg range? Is there anything interesting to be had from oral dosing in the single digits?
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4-6 mg is just unpleasant for me if I am up and trying to function - stimulation, slight clumsiness, an occasional hint of OEVs, and mild stomach discomfort. However, a dose in this range taken about 2 hours before sleep is very effective at inducing lucid dreams for me, similar to what is discussed in the following thread:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=556242

If you really like your sleep, I wouldn't recommend this. After a couple hours in bed, I am able to thoroughly enter a dream state, but I remain very active mentally... which does not seem to be conducive to restful sleep. The following morning I always get out of bed feeling physically and mentally drained, but I find the experience worthwhile enough to do every few months.
 
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bartlebooth said:
4-6 mg is just unpleasant for me if I am up and trying to function - stimulation, slight clumsiness, an occasional hint of OEVs, and mild stomach discomfort. However, a dose in this range taken about 2 hours before sleep is very effective at inducing lucid dreams for me, similar to what is discussed in the following thread:

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=556242

If you really like your sleep, I wouldn't recommend this. After a couple hours in bed, I am able to thoroughly enter a dream state, but I remain very active mentally... which does not seem to be conducive to restful sleep. The following morning I always get out of bed feeling physically and mentally drained, but I find the experience worthwhile enough to do every few months.
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That's pretty interesting there. I too find threshold doses of two carbon PEA's to be a touch agitating, though low doses of tryptamines & ergolines i've found rather pleasant. The induction of lucid dreaming with low dose 2c-e sounds very interesting though, may have to give that a shot sometime.
 
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That's pretty interesting there. I too find threshold doses of two carbon PEA's to be a touch agitating, though low doses of tryptamines & ergolines i've found rather pleasant. The induction of lucid dreaming with low dose 2c-e sounds very interesting though, may have to give that a shot sometime.
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Have you experienced 2c-e + 4-aco-dmt?
 
both separately, never together though. I tend to have bad luck with phen+trypt combos. Nothing particularly bad, more of a 2+2=3 type situation :\

Oh, and i meant phenethylamine psychedelics, empathogens+trypts=win, usually ;)
 
Got my first shot at 2c-e friday after a bassnectar show. I decided to hold off till after because i had never done it but i am fairly experienced with psychedelics. Me and my buddy had 25mg each, he orally ingested his and i decided to snort mine. "Heard it burns" I thought to my self but oh well. NO PAIN NO GAIN!!!

I didnt intend to do the whole 25mg but i didnt realize how light the powder was so i ended up with 25mg in my nose and it burned like no other! Might be a good time to mention i was currently rolling a little bit still from the show. We sat in the parking lot for about 30min smokin some good budz and once we started to leave is when i felt the initial effects coming on. Slight vibrations and a very vividness to colors around me even tho it was dark out by this time. Driving down the road in the backseat with trance playing i lost myself. I couldn't tell whether my eyes were open or closed except for a very small 2in gap on the left and right side of my vision which i could faintly tell was "reality". So i would have to compare it to something of a "tunneling" in my vision. I could see the world around me IF i wanted to. Which is something i liked, i found it very easy to control the visuals and mental state. One down side i did notice through out the night was some slight muscle spasms and the thought of i was going to piss myself a few times.

Thats basically how it went most of the night. Intense audible hallucinations, i was in a totally silent room creating the most vivid sounding trance in my brain. Honestly probablly my new favorite psych. Going to give it another go here soon and try some stuff out and compare it to other experiences ive had on other psychs. (lsd,shrooms,dmt)
 
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teh1buck said:
Have you experienced 2c-e + 4-aco-dmt?
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I've mixed 2C-E and 4-aco-DMT, I really really love this combination actually.

I took the 2C-E first, at about 20 mgs, and then 4-5 hours into the 2C-E, i took 20 mgs 4-aco-DMT.

The 4-aco-DMT added a nice burst visuals and euphoria to the 2C-E peak. It was quite an intense combination though.

I think I did 2C-T-7 the day before, so my doses are with a little bit of tolerance.

You may want to dose lower than I did this this combination.
 
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25 mg insufflated ... I believe I would've lost my shit. You've got a tough brain, sir.
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It was a very interesting experience. I believe it was somewhere around 7-8hrs of good solid visuals and audible hallucinations. I dont remember actually going to sleep. Once i got home i turned on my 3color strobe on one end of the room, then the lava lamp on the opposite....layed it bed and just watched my room melt away.
 
I love this substance, it is very uncomfortable, but I return looking to it. Do you guys ever look forward to this discomfort it brings? I think that I'd like it to just work once so I can fix things that are broken in my life, but I don't know how to do this. I don't have the 'ah-ha' that I'm looking for, most of the time its either a bit of fun, a lot of questions or nothing that comes out of it. I never regret doing it, but I want to have its utility rather than just the fun of it.
 
Has anyone ever mixed 2c-e with xanax? it's not entirely important that I try the combo, but I'm sitting here, having eaten a xanax like an hour ago or two ago, and wondering what snorting a tad bit of 2c-e would do
 
Issac Sinclair said:
It will probably kill the trip.

Am I snorting it wrong if it doesn't hurt?
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i'm sure it'll dull the trip, but i was more concerned about about what would actually happen if i did it. like would it be shitty? or would the xanax take away from the 2c-e body load/high and make it still somewhat visual and euphoric like previous experiences? xanax and 2c-e occupy different receptors, so they won't cancel each other out of cause implications with each other. i'm thinking about snorting small amounts

and to answer your question, whenever i snorted large amounts of RCs at once, it always hurt, but i always managed. if i had the ability, i'd split the amount up into a bunch of very small bumps, and just do those individually over the course of 15-30 minutes. such a small amount each time it barely burns at all, but you still consume it all within a reasonable time frame.
 
I don't think it changes the quality, I just know that they stop me from being anxious. I don't think they make a very good combination, they differ from their purposes in life. You aren't going to be on psychedelics most of your life, and xanax just stops feelings of anxiety. It doesn't work on the same receptors, but it can still cancel it. How much did you plan to take?

Benedryl works for the bodyload and if you are doing small amounts I don't know if it would be enough to kill the trip or just have it diminished. Thanks for the tip, I'm going to remember it.
 
word.. i don't think i'm gonna do it. i was just kinda bored and curious about the combo. i can see how it could turn out to be a cool combo, but i can also see how it could turn out to be shitty. i'm feelin great how i am now though, weed, xanax, and a bit of hard alcohol. i'd really like to trip on either 2c-e, which i find to be more of a party/rave drug, or 4-aco-dmt, which is definitely a lot more chill and 'psychedelic' in a sense. maybe tomorrow? i hope so
 
Well I suggest against, but if you're curious and just want to know, I think its better to just do it so you won't have the thought in your mind. If you're ok with not doing it thats even better. It sounds like it will do nothing from all that you consumed. Its the same reason that people here snort kpins even when they know its not as good and worst for you. Doing is a better learning experience than reading. If you do want to do it tomorrow though, don't do it today.
 
Issac Sinclair said:
I never regret doing it, but I want to have its utility rather than just the fun of it.
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If you are looking for 'utility' perhaps you should try substituted tryptamines instead of 2Cs. People generally report much more introspection and life-changing breakthroughs on tryptamines than on phenethylamines. Also, it is up to you to take control of the trip and direct yourself towards the important questions and answers. So perhaps you need more experience, or you need to experiment more with how to control your trip. :)

xanax and 2c-e occupy different receptors, so they won't cancel each other out of cause implications with each other.
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Just to illustrate the faultiness of your reasoning: Atropine and MDMA also occupy different receptors, as do PCP and barbiturates. Still, these are some of the most dangerous combinations. Same goes for benzodiazepines and virtually all psychedelics, but still - a heavy dose of a potent benzo will knock out almost any trip. And it so happens to be that Xanax is a very potent benzo...
 
I'm pretty sure 2c-e isn't a "typical" phenethylamine experience in that it is very introspective and dark for a lot of people. 4-subbed trypts are a good route to go too though.
 
I found no darkness in my 2c-e experience. It was actually more uplifting and euphoric, tho my friend did report having lapses of "dark" thoughts
 
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