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The Big & Dandy 2C-E Thread (Second Edition)

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Note "for a lot of people" - I never said everyone's experiences would conform to a stereotype :P

I just want to defend 2c-e as not being typically shallow in the way that a lot of phens are. It is anything but, at least for me.
 
Yes! Another winner when combined with nature and good (or wierd) weather! Kinda of grew out of love with mushrooms but I missed the oneness and appreciation with nature soooo much. Our 1st real warm day of the year I did 13mg and had one of the best trips of my life.

I just sat outside with the sun on my face absorbing all the energy I could. I even meditated a bit, which I haven't done in a very long time. Enjoyed a good 1.5hrs of CEV's of the most beautiful orange you can imagine :D It was neat too because EVERYTHING outside shimmerd with that heat-shimmer effect like you see on the top of pavement on a hot day.

Another neat visual I had was I'd look up at the sky with my eyes closed and I'd keep them closed for a good 10 minutes. When I reopened my eyes everything was greyscale. Like truly black-and-white. Lasted about 10 seconds but it was wild. My mother's color blind so it was sort of neat to see what she sees for a few seconds.
 
Penthos said:
Another neat visual I had was I'd look up at the sky with my eyes closed and I'd keep them closed for a good 10 minutes. When I reopened my eyes everything was greyscale. Like truly black-and-white. Lasted about 10 seconds but it was wild. My mother's color blind so it was sort of neat to see what she sees for a few seconds.
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you can do that on no drugs, or at least its happened to me drugless.
 
It was boring. Yawn. Maybe i didnt do enough. Or i didnt snort it right. (I think i dont snort things right or something)
 
I just found my bag of 2C-E I had forgotten about in a drawer, but it's yellow powder now .. What happened? Is it still usable or can I just flush it?
 
how old is it? i still have some 2c-e from an order many months ago, and it still is as white as it was the day i received it. kept it in a dark place at room temperature in a ziplock bag. 2c-e (and phenethylamines in general) should be pretty stable for a long long time...

maybe impurities that degraded? can't really say something about safety to consume though.

edit: yeah, 50th post^^
 
rollinlikeabigshot said:
The 2c-b i got recently looked pretty yellow. Sure it was 2c-e?
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Colour of a powder says absolutely nothing about its identity (although pure 2C-E should be white and pure 2C-B should have a yellowish hue). Give me 1 drop of colorant and I can make 100 grams of powder any colour you like... Colour change is of course an indication that something has happened, although a slight change to yellow probably indicates the majority of your compound is still perfectly fine. Could also be uptake of water which alters the crystal structure, this can also change the hue of the powder.

Anyway, as with all these kinds of questions: It is all pure speculation and no definite conclusions can be drawn from your description of the powder.
 
Anyway, as with all these kinds of questions: It is all pure speculation and no definite conclusions can be drawn from your description of the powder.
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So without any kind of lab-analysis to confirm the identity I should just get rid of it? Guess thats probably the best thing to do; it's not worth running the risk of getting poisoned :D
 
^I wouldn't say that. I sometimes get batches of 2C-T-2 which are yellow or peachy coloured, and they feel the same potency of the white crystalline batches I have had. In fact, my current batch of 2C-T-2 is yellowish. I think the last batch of 2C-E I had was similarly coloured too.
 
So without any kind of lab-analysis to confirm the identity I should just get rid of it? Guess thats probably the best thing to do; it's not worth running the risk of getting poisoned
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You can always test with Mecke or Marquis and compare to results here.
 
|>R()|)!G/-\|_ said:
You can always test with Mecke or Marquis and compare to results here.
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As undoubtedly stated many times before on this site, reagent testing can only be used for negative identification (i.e. 'this is not ...') and not for positive identification. Furthermore, the person asking the question already confirmed that the powder was 2C-E; the question is only about a discoloration. So even if there is only 10% 2C-E remaining, a reagent test will still come out positive for 2C-E.

So without any kind of lab-analysis to confirm the identity I should just get rid of it?
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I think that would be a very bold decision. Discoloration can also be due to recrystallization or a minor breakdown product. The chance that a possible breakdown product would be so poisonous that ingesting a merely 5 mg (assuming more than 25% degradation, which is extremely unlikely) would have adverse effects is virtually non-existent. Especially when considering the structure of 2C-E and phenethylamines in general; most potent poisons contain at least a tertiary or quarternary ammonium or some phosphorous functional group.
 
As undoubtedly stated many times before on this site, reagent testing can only be used for negative identification (i.e. 'this is not ...') and not for positive identification.
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I know from your previous posts that you're a smart poster so you have me a little confused. Aren't Mecke and Marquis the same reagents in Narco packs that police use to field test suspected drugs? If the test returns a positive, isn't that a positive?

In this case, if the OP wants to
confirm the identity [or] just get rid of it?
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, why couldn't (s)he test with Mecke and see if it goes dark brown? TWouldn't that at least narrow it down to either 2ci or 2ce?

I also didn't realize the OP had confirmed the identity of said compound since (s)he asked if (s)he should
confirm the identity [or] just get rid of it?
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To me that indicated (s)he wasn't sure about the compound's identity.
 
|>R()|)!G/-\|_ said:
why couldn't (s)he test with Mecke and see if it goes dark brown? TWouldn't that at least narrow it down to either 2ci or 2ce?
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I don't blame you for misunderstanding, since about 90 per cent of people are doing it wrong. The only instance where Mecke/Marquis reagents can be used with 100% certainty is exclusion. Like when you test a tablet and your reagent does not turn black, you can exclude MDMA (and any other substance causing the reagent to go black). However, if you test a tablet and the reagent goes black this is never a guarantee the tablet contains MDMA. There are other compounds that will also give a black colour after polymerization, while there are also reports (in the NL at least) where tiny bits of dark blue colorant were added to a tablet to fool users wise enough to test their supply. Hope this is enough explanation to clarify what I meant? If not feel free to ask. :)

To me that indicated (s)he wasn't sure about the compound's identity.
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I understand you took it up like this. However, if you read back a post or 20 you'll see the original post in which it is stated that it is indeed a bag of 2C-E (which I thought meant a 'confirmed identity'-statement) that was left in a drawer for a long amount of time, causing it to change colour.
 
I licked some off my fingers when I was measuring it. Its very difficult to measure something that is so sticky and clumpy. I ended up tripping a little, no visuals, but it was very mental, it seemed like I was connected with more thoughts, like how I would think of weed which leads to green, then think of something semi related, like Al Gore or Springtime for Hitler.
 
About the color; my 2C-E is also like...yellowish. Definitely not solid white. Is it supposed to be?? :\
 
Actually, maybe it's just in the bag it looks different...cuz when I poured a small amount on the counter it looks white. Then again, maybe my eyes are deceiving me, I did take some :D.
 
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