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What has the rave scene come to? :(

Let me guess, your buddies always get the "purest" shit right? Buy in to everything they say? Always "mad pure"... sometimes speedy, sometimes trippy... always awesome though? ...right

Sorry but if you live in the northeast and claim there are amazing pills everywhere you're just wrong. It's not only about who you know... I've bought the best rolls I've ever had off of the same person that sold me the pipiest shits I've ever had. It's a real problem. This shits designed to fool people and amazingly it does a damn good job (seems like its worked pretty well on yourself). I'm not sure why you need to be telling someone they "don't know anything about the scene" and shit when everyone who really knows what MDMA feels like can tell you the northeast (and specifically NYC since it's where we source all of our shit from ME to fucking PA and beyond) is in a bad way right now.

I don't buy into anything anyone says. I test my shit. Luckily most of the people I've ever known didn't deal pipes. Maybe I just know awesome people? I've only ever had the displeasure of testing three bad batches (two powders claimed to be "molly" in case you were wondering and one pill). One of the batches of "molly" turned no color(I thought it was salt and some other dumb shit), the other tested positive for 2C-B, DXM, and a piperazine. The third was TFMPP, BZP and enough MDMA to fool a kit. I'm sorry that you guys live in the NE and can't find anything good.
 
It's not like I know pipes dealers, I'm just saying, its a toss up here, more so than anywhere in the country right now. I can get good shit from time to time but I also piss away a decent amount of money trying for it.

Like george mentioned, most people I know don't get why I'm so picky with MDMA. They probably think I'm a weenie or something, I don't really know. I actually give some kids at work every pill I end up buying and testing that isn't up to my standards... it's pretty funny. I tell them exactly what they are and why I don't want them and I'm sure they're just like "whatever man... you're fucked up" but the jokes on them unfortunately. 6 Purple starfish... all yours! For free? Of course! I'd rather give them away and be up front about what they are than sell them. TONS of kids around here are in to taking "ecstasy" for the fun of seeing what it'll be like each time because they don't know which of the pills they've had are actually real. It's sad because I like them as people too, but they'd never hear me out if I tried to explain something like pipes to them. They're just the sorry reason this shit is successfully marketed here in the first place. It sucks.
 
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^^^ So much agree... This pipe epidemic from the kids who just want to get high has really messed up things for the rest of us. I think i will take this approach with my inventory of pipes..
 
You can trade them for stuff that's more useful to you depending on what you're interested in. I've traded a bunch of pipes for some adderall, sweet deal if you ask me.
 
If you have read any of my earlier post about the scene in the UK - it changed from Peace Love Unity and respect to Peach Love Unity and Rape!

People would actively goto raves and seek out people who they knew were in no fit state and basically rape/rob them - this was happening at the mainstream legal events.

You really need to look after each other when your out clubbing/raving - not everyone is who they make out to be. Stay in groups and dont be afraid to report anything dodgy to the security (even if your high).

Thank you for this warning. I had no idea this can happen. <3
 
It's not like I know pipes dealers, I'm just saying, its a toss up here, more so than anywhere in the country right now. I can get good shit from time to time but I also piss away a decent amount of money trying for it.

Like george mentioned, most people I know don't get why I'm so picky with MDMA. They probably think I'm a weenie or something, I don't really know. I actually give some kids at work every pill I end up buying and testing that isn't up to my standards... it's pretty funny. I tell them exactly what they are and why I don't want them and I'm sure they're just like "whatever man... you're fucked up" but the jokes on them unfortunately. 6 Purple starfish... all yours! For free? Of course! I'd rather give them away and be up front about what they are than sell them. TONS of kids around here are in to taking "ecstasy" for the fun of seeing what it'll be like each time because they don't know which of the pills they've had are actually real. It's sad because I like them as people too, but they'd never hear me out if I tried to explain something like pipes to them. They're just the sorry reason this shit is successfully marketed here in the first place. It sucks.

^You're sooooo spot on...that's funny...I do the same thing. I'll let em know it's crap and that I'm gonna flush it, so if they want it, it's theirs. Thankfully, the kids are starting to learn, but they only apply it to their personal consumption. They still buy loads of pipes cause they get em so cheap and make money off em cause other kids who don't know any better will still buy em. It's just furthering the epidemic of a newer generation who has little to no idea what real mdma feels like. Sucks big time for us.
 
Oh jeez dude...I'm taking a visit to NYC TOMORROW. You. Are. Wrong. You must not know any of the right people hahaha.

I've lived in the NYC are my entire life...I know plenty of people. There isn't a stamp on pillreports that's shown up that I haven't been able to get my hands on, so sourcing is just not an issue for me. I have about 5-10 different sources for molly in the city too. There are a few clean pills around, but anyone who really knows good shit will tell you the mdma situation in NYC is VERY grim right now.

Just look at pillreports...it's quite clear what the situation is. Sorry, but pills don't just come out in small quantities. Pressers don't just press a small quanity that some purported "lucky bastard" like yourself happens to be able to get, but no one else can. I've been in the game for a long time, so I know how the market works.

You either don't know what you're talking about, are exaggerating what you can get, or, are just flat out lying.
 
its not the rave scene thats fucked its just those fucking people who have nothing better to do. i doubt those people came just to party.honestly they knew people would be fucked up there and they took advantage of it easily its just disgusting
 
I started going to edm events/raves within the past year. Chicago has some pretty dope shit going on. We have sick dj's, the mint men deliver the tasty mdma, and there are some good vibes. The promoters try their hardest to make things work around the cops and whatnot. Usually our events go till 3, sometimes we get lucky and get to go till five. Theres always dope parties with a couple dj's and NOS afterwards. Overall I'm pretty content with it. Theres some douche bags, but most of them get weeded out cause nobody likes them, and the other ones do something stupid enough that they don't show their faces at events anymore. I think our scene is pretty alive.
 
I've lived in the NYC are my entire life...I know plenty of people. There isn't a stamp on pillreports that's shown up that I haven't been able to get my hands on, so sourcing is just not an issue for me. I have about 5-10 different sources for molly in the city too. There are a few clean pills around, but anyone who really knows good shit will tell you the mdma situation in NYC is VERY grim right now.

Just look at pillreports...it's quite clear what the situation is. Sorry, but pills don't just come out in small quantities. Pressers don't just press a small quanity that some purported "lucky bastard" like yourself happens to be able to get, but no one else can. I've been in the game for a long time, so I know how the market works.

You either don't know what you're talking about, are exaggerating what you can get, or, are just flat out lying.

Nah, I'm sorry. If you think the northeast has any MDMA problems you don't know the scene. Maybe the problem is you deal with hoodrats and I deal with people actually consuming their product. Also 90% of exchanges I make are with college students. The first time I rolled was from excellent molly from NYC, the next time I roll (this weds) will be from excellent molly from NYC. Like I said before, it's all about who you know. Stop trying to kid yourself with 5-10 sources man. If you think the MDMA is bad in NYC, get a new connect. All I'm saying on this matter, it's getting stupid.
 
Nah, I'm sorry. If you think the northeast has any MDMA problems you don't know the scene. Maybe the problem is you deal with hoodrats and I deal with people actually consuming their product. Also 90% of exchanges I make are with college students. The first time I rolled was from excellent molly from NYC, the next time I roll (this weds) will be from excellent molly from NYC. Like I said before, it's all about who you know. Stop trying to kid yourself with 5-10 sources man. If you think the MDMA is bad in NYC, get a new connect. All I'm saying on this matter, it's getting stupid.

It's pretty clear to me now that you're one of the fools who thinks they're getting the great supply of molly nyc has to offer at the moment...very sad.

The number of people I know right now who think they're getting great molly that are actually getting something else is staggering. And, it includes inexperienced college kids all the way up to veterans who should know better. This is clearly not going away anytime soon.

Houston, we have a problem.
 
Not sure college stupids guarantee good product. In my experience, they tend to fall into the "just wanna get fucked up" category, and I've tested fake MDMA from college students on many occasions. I don't actually know any "hood rats".
 
horrible yes, but i live in the area, and there's more to the story than what's being released by the media. but whatever

Yeah, i live nearby as well, it's been all over the papers and seriously makes our rave scene look like shit. cops have been busting a lot of raves and club events lately and it's been kinda strict. before all this happened, I went up to a big rave in the middle of no where, no security, but none of this kind of stuff went down. and even if it did I can guarantee that no one would stand around and watch. That's what disgusts me the most, is that no one intervened..
 
It's pretty clear to me now that you're one of the fools who thinks they're getting the great supply of molly nyc has to offer at the moment...very sad.

The number of people I know right now who think they're getting great molly that are actually getting something else is staggering. And, it includes inexperienced college kids all the way up to veterans who should know better. This is clearly not going away anytime soon.

Houston, we have a problem.

Yeah, I'm a fool, you're right, but this molly is the bees knees. Get on my level.
 
It's pretty clear to me now that you're one of the fools who thinks they're getting the great supply of molly nyc has to offer at the moment...very sad.

The number of people I know right now who think they're getting great molly that are actually getting something else is staggering. And, it includes inexperienced college kids all the way up to veterans who should know better. This is clearly not going away anytime soon.

Houston, we have a problem.

Are there any other substances that might be in a roll other than MDMA that make you feel good and make your body feel good, without something wierd going on? I'd think an easy way to tell is if you feel amazingly good, your body feels good and you feel healthy and just great, then you prob got the good stuff =D Why do some people think they rolled when they didn't, I don't really understand? Aren't the effects pretty obvious, and pretty sure nothing other than MDMA makes you feel like that, maybe heroin lol?

First time I got fake stuff I thought it was real at first since it was pretty fun and trippy (pre test kit days) and told my friends it was awesome. THEN when I really had it, I was just laughing at how stupid I was the other time b/c it clearly wasn't a trippy drug or anything that I was used to, it was just a feel good drug. :D
 
Are there any other substances that might be in a roll other than MDMA that make you feel good and make your body feel good, without something wierd going on? I'd think an easy way to tell is if you feel amazingly good, your body feels good and you feel healthy and just great, then you prob got the good stuff =D Why do some people think they rolled when they didn't, I don't really understand? Aren't the effects pretty obvious, and pretty sure nothing other than MDMA makes you feel like that, maybe heroin lol?

First time I got fake stuff I thought it was real at first since it was pretty fun and trippy (pre test kit days) and told my friends it was awesome. THEN when I really had it, I was just laughing at how stupid I was the other time b/c it clearly wasn't a trippy drug or anything that I was used to, it was just a feel good drug. :D

This is sort of tough to address because if you're someone who knows clean mdma, then it's really not hard to tell when you've got something else or even something mixed in.

HOWEVER, there are a couple of factors that come into play that can make it difficult for younger or less experienced users. The first is that even clean mdma doesn't always hit you exactly the same. It depends on dosage, how much filler, your environment, mood, etc. That being said, after years of use, you eventually pick up on the variations of how clean mdma will effect you. The second factor is tolerance. This comes into play in mixed pills. Because my tolerance is high, if a pill is cut, I almost always will feel what it's cut with more than the mdma.

Also, you're forgetting that certain pipes will at onset feel a little bit similar to the mdma come up. Some pipes will make you feel like you're coming up for hours without ever getting a real roll. This being the case, it's not hard to understand why many people mistake these pills for low dose mdma...especially with how little mdma is actually in pills nowadays...at least in my area.

The problem that's going on in nyc seems to be compounding itself. Younger kids that party more have been flooded with pipes, combo and low dose pills. They weren't around for the "good 'ol days." It's not their fault, but they don't know what they're missing...strong clean pills. The problem is they're the ones who create most of the demand because they're in the prime of their party years, and what they're demanding is not quality, but quantity. They're able to get pills for a fraction of the cost of pills years ago (pipes are cheap), and that makes them profitable for resale. The problem is feeding itself because the more kids that take crap pills thinking they're mdma, the less real mdma will ever be demanded. It's sort of difficult to articulate, but I've been witnessing this first hand for awhile now.

I'm not saying there's not any actual mdma out there or people that know what good mdma is, but profit is there to be made for pipe dealers, so things aren't going to change until people stop buying AND selling them. I know kids that have gained a better understanding of good e from being exposed to my "pickiness" in pills, but they still buy and sell pipes cause there's money to be made doing it.

The sad part is that ecstasy as a drug seems to have fallen out of popularity. Lots of kids I talk to aren't really "that into e." Can you blame them with all the garbage they probably swallow with the assumption that that is what mdma feels like?
 
This is sort of tough to address because if you're someone who knows clean mdma, then it's really not hard to tell when you've got something else or even something mixed in.

HOWEVER, there are a couple of factors that come into play that can make it difficult for younger or less experienced users. The first is that even clean mdma doesn't always hit you exactly the same. It depends on dosage, how much filler, your environment, mood, etc. That being said, after years of use, you eventually pick up on the variations of how clean mdma will effect you. The second factor is tolerance. This comes into play in mixed pills. Because my tolerance is high, if a pill is cut, I almost always will feel what it's cut with more than the mdma.

Also, you're forgetting that certain pipes will at onset feel a little bit similar to the mdma come up. Some pipes will make you feel like you're coming up for hours without ever getting a real roll. This being the case, it's not hard to understand why many people mistake these pills for low dose mdma...especially with how little mdma is actually in pills nowadays...at least in my area.

The problem that's going on in nyc seems to be compounding itself. Younger kids that party more have been flooded with pipes, combo and low dose pills. They weren't around for the "good 'ol days." It's not their fault, but they don't know what they're missing...strong clean pills. The problem is they're the ones who create most of the demand because they're in the prime of their party years, and what they're demanding is not quality, but quantity. They're able to get pills for a fraction of the cost of pills years ago (pipes are cheap), and that makes them profitable for resale. The problem is feeding itself because the more kids that take crap pills thinking they're mdma, the less real mdma will ever be demanded. It's sort of difficult to articulate, but I've been witnessing this first hand for awhile now.

I'm not saying there's not any actual mdma out there or people that know what good mdma is, but profit is there to be made for pipe dealers, so things aren't going to change until people stop buying AND selling them. I know kids that have gained a better understanding of good e from being exposed to my "pickiness" in pills, but they still buy and sell pipes cause there's money to be made doing it.

The sad part is that ecstasy as a drug seems to have fallen out of popularity. Lots of kids I talk to aren't really "that into e." Can you blame them with all the garbage they probably swallow with the assumption that that is what mdma feels like?

I second this!

I'm 19 years old and I know what good MDMA is, I've been through the terrible, the bad, the decent, the good, the amazing, and the life changing pills/MDMA, if I ever pick up a big amount and I feel like giving people some I tell them the truth which is usually - "They're bomb". I test it in front of them if they want, and I would never pick up a bag of shitty pipes/adulterated rolls. In my area I'm usually known as 'the only guy that has clean rolls'. :p

I feel bad for kids that are like "Woah, these pills are awesome! I'm tripping balls! WOAH DID YOU JUST SEE THAT?!?!?!?!?!?! THESE PILLS ARE SOOO CLEAN" because I can't be like, hate to tell ya but those pills are shitty as fuck if you're tripping balls, because it will ruin it for them. :p
 
I second this!

I'm 19 years old and I know what good MDMA is, I've been through the terrible, the bad, the decent, the good, the amazing, and the life changing pills/MDMA, if I ever pick up a big amount and I feel like giving people some I tell them the truth which is usually - "They're bomb". I test it in front of them if they want, and I would never pick up a bag of shitty pipes/adulterated rolls. In my area I'm usually known as 'the only guy that has clean rolls'. :p

I feel bad for kids that are like "Woah, these pills are awesome! I'm tripping balls! WOAH DID YOU JUST SEE THAT?!?!?!?!?!?! THESE PILLS ARE SOOO CLEAN" because I can't be like, hate to tell ya but those pills are shitty as fuck if you're tripping balls, because it will ruin it for them. :p

I do the same thing...I wait to tell them til the next day cause I don't want to fuck up their trip or make them paranoid they ate something dangerous.

That's great you're able to get good clean pills...stock up! I did before this drought but ran out and things have been so inconsistent, I haven't been able to stock up again.

On the bright side, when I do get something decent, I roll pretty good cause I can't roll very often. Tolerance is under control. ;)
 
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