I had the the other(not smelling) one - 40mg the same ROA. It has been quite weaker. After 1/2hr added another 30mg but still felt it is not the same as last time. I can't say this one is weaker for sure, next time I will try the other one again.
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I've tried a recent non-smelling, slightly off-white batch. Was all good from my perspective, did what I expected and of similar strength to the tan batch of freebase from a few months ago.
It's quite interesting that when I first started reading about this everybody was going on about the foul smell. After three different batches all of which were very effective, the worst smell I got was a mothball kind of thing. This recent batch has almost no smell whatsoever and works great. Foul smell must be impurities.
It's quite interesting that when I first started reading about this everybody was going on about the foul smell. After three different batches all of which were very effective, the worst smell I got was a mothball kind of thing. This recent batch has almost no smell whatsoever and works great. Foul smell must be impurities.
Other night I tried for the first time... 100mg. Probably not the best idea but it was ok. I had oral and staggered doses.
Euphoric and slightly visual, one prominent thing was everything was jumping everywhere, and there were dots flashing in the dark. Mentally it was confusing, an array of different thoughts jumbled up, some of a sexual nature, and later some painfull thoughts kept looping, which I got under control. Lots of empathy at the beginning, chatting to friends on the phone was great. Music wasn't really enhanced for me a great deal, maybe slightly.
Physically I felt a big body buzz, some nausea and an awful headache, not pleasant. I liked how the stimulation was gentle but my energy left me a few hours in. I want to try this again, I'll try a lower dose before doing this again though. The long come-up was slightly annoyig though...
Euphoric and slightly visual, one prominent thing was everything was jumping everywhere, and there were dots flashing in the dark. Mentally it was confusing, an array of different thoughts jumbled up, some of a sexual nature, and later some painfull thoughts kept looping, which I got under control. Lots of empathy at the beginning, chatting to friends on the phone was great. Music wasn't really enhanced for me a great deal, maybe slightly.
Physically I felt a big body buzz, some nausea and an awful headache, not pleasant. I liked how the stimulation was gentle but my energy left me a few hours in. I want to try this again, I'll try a lower dose before doing this again though. The long come-up was slightly annoyig though...
psood0nym
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Make sure you try the other within about the same time period that separates this last try from your first one if you really want to try to make that comparison. There wasn't that long between your doses, and it may just be that your monamines need time to replenish themselves. Alternatively, wait a month or more and do the one without an odor again. It could also be that the one without odor is HCl, which is heavier than the freebase (if it dissolves readily in water without adding any acid you'll know).
I am planning to do that. From what I've found here, the tolerance should be ok after 2 weeks, although I did 8mg 5-meo-mipt one week ago. I will test those two batches properly because AMT is just the only one RC I enjoy till now. Do you think one or two weeks is not enough to bring my brain back?
Both batches are freebases and were not disolving until phosphoric acid has been added.
BTW This Sat I added 25mg of DPT after about 3hrs on AMT and world changed into samething very very ugly and unpleasant. Thanks God I had 170mg M1 prepared that saved my ass. One hour afer M1 it turned into positive feelings and I added 10mg of 4-aco-dmt. Redosed 170mg of m1 2-3 hours later and the experience was quite good. But I am sure, without M1 that would be a hell!
I just hope I don't have to use M1 with every tryptamine I have prepared for testing.
I just hope I don't have to use M1 with every tryptamine I have prepared for testing.
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I've had AMT stored for the past 8 weeks or so. I've done my level best to make sure I storred it properly to safeguard against it going off but now its come to the crunch I'm left wondering how would I tell? It smells God damn awful at its purest so what indicators should I keep an eye out for in case it has gone bad? I've read some unpleasant stories of people who took AMT which hadn't been stored very well and I'm obviously keen to avoid
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I've had AMT stored for the past 8 weeks or so. I've done my level best to make sure I storred it properly to safeguard against it going off but now its come to the crunch I'm left wondering how would I tell? It smells God damn awful at its purest so what indicators should I keep an eye out for in case it has gone bad? I've read some unpleasant stories of people who took AMT which hadn't been stored very well and I'm obviously keen to avoid
I recently did some amt that was almost a year old(probably over a year old from production). Stored in the freezer for most of the time. No noticeable colour change, and it seemed to be as potent as when I first tried it. Clean trip, no bad side effects.
I have some questions , i'm planning to vape some aMT on foil sometime next week. I'm aware of the long duration of the effects and to be honest im looking for more euphoria/amp'd than proper full blown tripping. From looking about on the boards i've gathered that I should do an allergy test of 5mg (and wait for how long?) and for MDxx effects i should vape 25mg? or 30?.
Should I space the 30mg through 5mg hits over an hour or so? or go for a big all out toke?
Is aMT plausible to use in a party setting? (not rave)
Should I space the 30mg through 5mg hits over an hour or so? or go for a big all out toke?
Is aMT plausible to use in a party setting? (not rave)
Blowmonkey
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Smoking is vastly more potent than oral dosing. 25-30 mg smoked would be a heroic dose.
From erowid:
Smoked AMT Dosages
Threshold 2 mg
Light 4 - 5 mg
Common 6 - 10 mg
Strong 10 - 20 mg
Onset : 10 seconds - 30 minutes
Duration : 8 - 12 hours
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/amt/amt_dose.shtml
If you want something remiscent of an MDxx experience, stick to the "light dosages".
From erowid:
Smoked AMT Dosages
Threshold 2 mg
Light 4 - 5 mg
Common 6 - 10 mg
Strong 10 - 20 mg
Onset : 10 seconds - 30 minutes
Duration : 8 - 12 hours
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/amt/amt_dose.shtml
If you want something remiscent of an MDxx experience, stick to the "light dosages".
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Im not sure these dosages are correct tbh I have smoked 40-50mg of AMT on several occasions and felt the effects were similar to oral and certainly not heroic in fact in some ways it was more subtle than oral.
I have tried all ROAs at 50mg apart from injection and have always found plugging to give the best effects with the least nausea.
Intrestingly I also noted that smoking amt does not speed up the onset that dramatically it still seemed to take 2 hours minimum to reach its true effect.
Whilst I always enjoy AMT i find it distinctly lacking in something (dopamine?) and nearly always ended up fiending on cannabis and alcohol desperately trying to kick it up a gear and enjoy the music....anyone else?
Blowmonkey
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Was it the hcl or the freebase? Hcl is 20% less potent by weight and needs far more higher temps than the freebase would, so I imagine much will be lost. I've never smoked it myself due to the skatole present (not so appealing to smoke something reeking of poo), but I would tread with caution if going for the smoked method, start small and work your way up if nothing much happens after say an hour (or two). 25-30 mg oral would be a good dosage anyways to achieve those "MDxx" effects.
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I have only smoked the freebase (off of foil). I would agree that 25-30mg is a sensible starting dose that will definately yeild results. As for MDXX like effects I have never understood the comparison. I find even smoked dosages give a lethargic kind of psychedellic opiate like effect nothing even remotely like mdxx compounds but this is probably a case of ymmv.
knock
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I had my first "proper" dose of aMT the other night, 60mg HCl. Previously I'd done only 25mg and while it was lots of fun - gentle waves of stimulation and euphoria, along with a mushroom-like headspace - this was in a different category.
In fact this recent trip was psychedelic in ways I haven't before experienced. On Sunday evening I'd had 35mg Methoxetamine followed by most of a bottle of wine. I plugged 60mg at about 2am on Monday and by 5am I was peaking. There was the same stimulation and euphoria but the headspace was much clearer, much more like LSD, and while the CEVs were not at all LSD-powerful, they were lovely. My appreciation of music was intense - I kneeled at the loudspeaker (the volume was down very low) in awe at the way the little vibrations in the speaker could produce a joyous dance of harmony and delight in my head. This was amazing, but not spiritual or life-changing - nothing new for me.
Later, in the peak, I was shown some truths about life (life in general, but also specific to me) that I had been avoiding unconsciously - about my relationship with my parents and the fact that they need my help in their old age. I saw before my eyes the cycle of birth-life-death, how we are brought into the world and cared for, find our own way for a time, bring life into the world ourselves, care for our parents in their old age, and finally are (we hope) cared for by our children. The fact that I have no children seems slightly worrying in this context. On the other hand it seems cruel to bring life into the world with the selfish aim of getting support when we can no longer support ourselves. My parents have recently been dropping subtle hints about getting older and not being able to look after themselves but I'd never actually recognised it. aMT showed me the meaning of their hints and put it in context. It's actually made me re-evaluate my priorities. This is a new experience for me.
On 25mg I had a long-lasting headache and muscle tension. On 60mg there was no headache and only slight muscle tension. It was overall much more comfortable than the lower dose. There seemed less residual stimulation immediately after the peak - previously this lasted about 5 hours, this time I fell asleep after the peak and slept soundly for four hours. When I awoke I was a bit mentally foggy and there was some stimulation which needed settled so I spent the afternoon in the pub with beer and something to read. I slept soundly for nine hours last night and today I feel great!
In fact this recent trip was psychedelic in ways I haven't before experienced. On Sunday evening I'd had 35mg Methoxetamine followed by most of a bottle of wine. I plugged 60mg at about 2am on Monday and by 5am I was peaking. There was the same stimulation and euphoria but the headspace was much clearer, much more like LSD, and while the CEVs were not at all LSD-powerful, they were lovely. My appreciation of music was intense - I kneeled at the loudspeaker (the volume was down very low) in awe at the way the little vibrations in the speaker could produce a joyous dance of harmony and delight in my head. This was amazing, but not spiritual or life-changing - nothing new for me.
Later, in the peak, I was shown some truths about life (life in general, but also specific to me) that I had been avoiding unconsciously - about my relationship with my parents and the fact that they need my help in their old age. I saw before my eyes the cycle of birth-life-death, how we are brought into the world and cared for, find our own way for a time, bring life into the world ourselves, care for our parents in their old age, and finally are (we hope) cared for by our children. The fact that I have no children seems slightly worrying in this context. On the other hand it seems cruel to bring life into the world with the selfish aim of getting support when we can no longer support ourselves. My parents have recently been dropping subtle hints about getting older and not being able to look after themselves but I'd never actually recognised it. aMT showed me the meaning of their hints and put it in context. It's actually made me re-evaluate my priorities. This is a new experience for me.
On 25mg I had a long-lasting headache and muscle tension. On 60mg there was no headache and only slight muscle tension. It was overall much more comfortable than the lower dose. There seemed less residual stimulation immediately after the peak - previously this lasted about 5 hours, this time I fell asleep after the peak and slept soundly for four hours. When I awoke I was a bit mentally foggy and there was some stimulation which needed settled so I spent the afternoon in the pub with beer and something to read. I slept soundly for nine hours last night and today I feel great!
tragiclemming
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I find this a very dose dependant drug. Glad you found yours
Sounds very similar to what I have experienced at similar doses. 60mg of HCL is very good indeed!
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I never tried aMT. I am wondering about the stimulation? What´s your people´s opinions on that......
Do you grind your teeth?
Anybody got tense muscle´s? I heard it´s normal to have an aching body the day after.
is there any kind "amphetamine" feeling/push to it?
Do you grind your teeth?
Anybody got tense muscle´s? I heard it´s normal to have an aching body the day after.
is there any kind "amphetamine" feeling/push to it?
I should think it has an amphetmine push.
I also have a question, after having taken my allergy dose yesterday around 8-10 mg ( i cocked up the foil burning)i did feel good, but the next morning i was literally crapping my self. Bad case of the runs. This may be totally unrelated, just wondering if anyone had experienced the same?
I also have a question, after having taken my allergy dose yesterday around 8-10 mg ( i cocked up the foil burning)i did feel good, but the next morning i was literally crapping my self. Bad case of the runs. This may be totally unrelated, just wondering if anyone had experienced the same?
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