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The Big & Dandy aMT Thread (3rd incarnation)

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weevil said:
Sorry to derail the thread but after reading a DXM thread it sounds more likely, it wasn't much DXM tho so do you think that and 4 meo pcp poteniate each other.

I'll try aMT on its own next time, I was on a bit of a "fuck it binge" last week.
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Beyond the fact that you don't know how each drug affects you there's the even more important fact that you didn't research the basic pharmacology of the drug classes they belong to. DXM is extremely well known serotonin reuptake inhibitor and aMT is a powerful serotonin releaser like MDMA. Many have died of serotonin syndrome from combining MDMA and DXM -- think about having a bad trip and convulsing on the floor begging to die while your organs boil -- and aMT works by the same general monoamine release mechanism.
 
Blowmonkey said:
Yeah, many people are inclined to say that it seems. I haven't experienced it myself though. My highest dose was 55 mg's orally (freebase) and the side-effects were increased, same at 45 mg's, especially regarding the headaches. I always stayed between 25-35 mg's, that was my sweet spot.
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For me the side effects were not lessened when I took higher doses. 100 MG had me puking my guts out, def felt more dirty then my sweet spot at 60mgish. All I know is the one time I took 100, never made me want to take that dosage again. Maybe 80 but thats borderline.

But yeah YMMV. I hated the come up of AMT, the first hour was always horrible. It is user dependent for sure, I had a buddy who would take 60-80 with me. Instead of the tension/anxiety he would become extremely tired. He would actually pass out for little over an hour, and be totally in the zone.

Sure its been said but DMT + AMT = <3

I'm so overdue, its been 3 years since my last dose =(
 
@ Xorkoth: I've just read one of your posts on AMT...

"These things don';t hold true if I overuse it... I went through a period in 2006/early 2007 where I took AMT 3-4 times a week, and it did very bad things then. Very bad. But using it responsibly has never led to anything but goodness for me."

I was wondering, could you tell me what these bad things were, and how frequently could you get away with using it without bad things happenning? Also, how long after the bad things did you have to leave it before it went back to being okay?

I've been having some pretty interesting experiences with 3-4 times weekly low dose (3-5mg) AMT, so am pretty curious..... I've been taking it mainly for therapeutic reasons (I wouldn't usually push things if they weren't so helpful), but the last time was pretty bad, without really any warnings.
 
how safe would taking 50mg of amt with an average amount of lsa containing seeds (hbwr) be?
 
sure. that wasn't my question. But I guess you've answered. Then, more to the point... would it be enjoyable if I went for this combination (has anyone tried dosing acid a few hours into the amt trip?)?
 
An old (5 or 6 months) stash of AMT had changed from silvery grey to a light tan colour when I checked last night. Still smelled the same as it usually does. Posting to say that at 40mg it still worked fine despite the evident change.

Just thought it would prevent worrying about this if it happens to anyone elses stores. Any speculation about what caused it?
 
AMT's pretty notorious for degrading in appearance. I've witnessed similar colour / consistency changes over shorter periods of time. Never noticed any loss of potency product though, like you say.

Someone with more knowledge of chemistry might be able to fill you in, but as you say it's not that much of a worry. :)
 
I'm no chemistry buff, but I can remind you that relatively minor impurities can make a big difference to colour (we've all seen cracking MDMA that's yellow/pink/whatever else). My guess is that the AMT is degrading to some other compound, a process which can be detected by observing the colour change, but which occurs at a rate that is basically negligible in terms of potency.
 
Do you know if it's the freebase or the salt? The freebase would be expected to degrade significantly faster - for me it has. It made a plastic baggy yellow-rubbery looking and much worse smelling. Fortunately I have stashed a portion of the salt in the freezer.
 
Is there much AMT going round as salts other than HCl? If there's fumarate about might be worth stocking up in anticipation of legal situation changing.
 
To be honest I have never heard of it or seen it, only fb and HCl. Might not really be worth it like it is with 4-HO's
 
What is a good dose of AMT for someone who is sensitive to stims and who was blown away by 120 mg of Methylone?
Is 15-20 mg too much?
 
Have you got freebase or hydrochloride? My experience is solely with the latter.

AMT's very different to methylone, so your response might be totally different. I'd say 15-20mg would be a good dose to introduce yourself to its potential effects. At lower doses than that it's more of a (brilliant) mood-enhancer and mild psychedelic.

I'd say you'll be fine at that dose, not to mention entertained for a good 12 hours or more. Just take the long duration of the 'come-up' period into account, and the possibility of some nausea during that time.
 
Thank your for the explanation! I haven't got my sample yet, but I hope to get it on Moday.
According to my calculations, fb is ~20% more potent by weight, comparing to HCl.

So, you stated your doses for HCl salt?

Both AMT and Methylone are triple monoamine releasers, so there should be similarities in the way my body reacts to these compounds, and I would like to avoid overdose effects. I expect them to have subjectively different effects though.
 
Thank you! :)
Oh, wait, how much trippy is it? Can you compare its "trippiness" to other psychedelics, 2C-I for example?
 
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