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(JWH-018/1.5 mgs) New experience: Holy shit, I'm dying! Worst night ever.

I just had that exact same experience! the best way i can explain my trip was it felt like i was slipping in and out of life. Like i was dieing, I thought i might actually be dieing so i opened my eyes and right when i did that it felt like i hadnt taken a breath FOREVER, so i gasped for air and for the next 5 hours I had to keep myself awake and manually breath. I threw up some pretty massive amounts too. I kept thinkin about how my family would feel if my roomate found me dead, it really made me feel bad. I dont recommend smokin this shit. stick to pot...you cant od...if you cant smoke pot for testing reasons, just dont smoke at all, Its not worth it. I feel like i learned a really valuable lesson. I feel like its my responsibility to tell you guys my story and just try to convince you that this shit is DANGEROUS....sorry for the shitty grammar.
 
the night i thought i was going to die. i smoke this. though it wasnt the pure form. it was the spice stuff. my roommate took all the same drugs i did but he didnt smoke the spice and he was fine. though i did smoke the spice and i thought i was going to die and had a huge panic attack.
 
Very interested in hearing of individuals recovery from these spice blends.

someone who isn’t me purchased Spike99 Ultra and Mojo, had smoked very little amounts of each. (About 2 hits each session) over 4 sessions each spaced out between different weeks everything was fine and the product seemed to be nice.

On the 5th session (6 days ago) after again only 2 hits, things went very bad. Strong tremors developed through the body and would come in waves, heart rate seemed extremely strong and fast, mind racing in many directions. A feeling of possible death was present. This experience lasted about 1.5 hours.

The week following this event has been difficult for this individual. There has been a constant sense of being off balance and light headed. A sense of overall not-well being has accompanied these symptoms and something resembling panic attacks have been taking place. Trying to calm down is very difficult at times. Vision is mostly normal with slight shaking. Individual notices concentrating is more difficult. Slight nausea is also felt at times.

This individual is hoping these symptoms go away and that life will again be ‘normal’. This individual hopes he will come out of this horrible ordeal.

The past 6 days have been very scary.

If there are others that have experienced this and have had these symptoms fade away. Please post.
 
Hey, I'm the original poster of this thread, back before we knew that JWH-018 was so powerful and panic inducing (Wow, over 1.5 years now). My damage from JWH-018 definitely got better with time. A lot of the initial panic, is panic from feeling panic (if you know what I'm saying). It's a vicious cycle. I know what you're talking about with the shaking vision. Don't worry, that's completely gone now. There were a couple posts way back in the day of about three people having problems similar to yours and they eventually faded.

After a long break from anything, I smoke weed every once and a while now, and it feels normal and doesn't affect my vision, so that's good.

I know this might not help, but think how happy you will be to feel normal again when it fades :-).
 
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Unless you have a scale to the mg's it should be OBVIOUS that a pure extract might not be a very good idea, considering the extremely small spectrum of dosage.

Also, believe it or not i've seen a fair number of reactions fairly similiar to what you describe in someone entirely pot-naive smoking entirely too much kindbud. Total collapse, mind-fuck nastiness. Through my own speculation, I'd have to think that weed itself produces much fewer of these kinds of reactions A) because it's obviously a lot easier to "start small" etc, and it also contains a myriad of different cannabinoids that act to balance eachother per se. (CBD+CBN+THC, etc.)

Spice etc is obviously OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive, however. Regardless of how marvelous the high could be i'd have to refuse it on principle, since its quite the scam. Hence that companies profits going from around 2 million in sales to over 750+ million in one year There are independent suppliers of their own herbal blends that have JWH-018 etc added, and often at MUCH higher levels...and about 1/8th of the cost. For gods sake whatever you do..dont buy spice.
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What the FUCK are you babbling about? Scam?? This shit is basically the same price as weed if not cheaper... actually if you are buying 3g or more its about half the price of weed...
 
Cegli, Thank you for your response.

10 days now and life is up and down for SWIM (someone who isn't me). Horrible. Every morning exactly as waking up anxiety flows in quickly. This anxiety subsides but it is difficult to control. Through out the day panic comes and goes. Mainly in the morning. As the afternoon comes around the individual sometimes feels entirely as if back to 'normal' this feeling can last all the way until waking up again the next morning. This in itself is discouraging to SWIM and very depressing. However, this is still much better than the first 6 days. There is some hope of SWIM regaining a normal life again.

The entire first 6 days every moment of life was in a partial daze. Eyesight was not exactly shakey, seems as if the eyes don't want to focus and lock onto one object, rater dart around the area where they are trying to focus. It is a hard symptom for SWIM to describe. Now on day 10 this is not always happening to SWIM.

SWIM was VERY aware of his heart rate during the first 6 days. SWIM measures his blood pressure and heart rate frequently now. Blood pressure and heart rate are usually increased during the episodes of panic. Much less so now. Now during panic swim feels slight tightness near his heart/chest, not extreme racing heart rate as before, SWIM thinks this is an improvement but sill slightly worrysome (maybe possible trauma from all of this). When SWIM feels 'normal' there is no chest tightness virtually at all. Overall now blood pressure and heart rate readings are fairly consistent with 'normal' which is good.

Balance seems to be off. Almost as if on a boat in very, very calm water. This adds to the panic and the developing depression because it is hard to regain composure and focus on normal aspects of life when the panic and balance issues are at work. When feeling 'normal' during phases of the day this is not present.

Every day SWIM wishes he never found these products. SWIM reads of people taking 2 weeks, 1 month, 2 months, 5 months, 1 year to be back to 'normal'. SWIM agonizes over this amount of time and is hoping for a fast recovery.

These symptoms have greatly impacted SWIM's ability to work; this has added extra panic of losing SWIM's job.

SWIM used to drink before this incident (has not sense) SWIM used to use marijuana in the past (at least 2 years ago). SWIM has never had any mental issues or been on any medications through out all of life.

SWIM worries he will never be fully back to normal, he hopes that sharing his story and possible recovery will help SWIM to find others like him and more answers while also helping others that may be suffering from the same problems and searching out more information.

SWIM asks that if more individuals can post their bad experiences and how they began to return to normal it is appreciated greatly.

SWIM would like to stress to others, this is no joke. This happend from the smoking blends, very little ammounts, and not from the pure chemical. SWIM understands many HAVE NOT been hurt from these products. SWIM HAS. Please take this story to heart.
 
Hey i'm new to the site and ive been reading through this thread with interest. I have a solution to both problems people seem to run into with jwh.

1st, all these people overdoing it should definitely consider giving the herbal blends a try. It's alot easier to control how much your taking with out a mg scale and its very easy to eyeball. As coolio had said previously it could potentially be a bit more unhealthy then the straight chemical..but hey people smoke cigarettes, not just nicotine.

2nd, its too expensive when blended. and this is true as fuck. But does anyone actually know how easy it is to make your own blends? All you need is a gram of jwh (30-50 bux online) and some herbs. you can marshmallo leaves, for example, and break the chemical down into a liquid form. Heres what u do ( u can google this for references) take your gram jwh, put it in 4ml of PURE acetone or 100 grain alcohol, and let it dissolve all the way. put it in a spray bottle (acetone safe if you go that route) and EVENLY spray the herbs, throughout the whole batch. Let sit in dark cool place over night so that the acetone or alchohol may evaporate and wat do you have? herbs with a perfect coating of jwh. at about 1 dollar a gram
 
damn man i guess this shit jus teffects everyon different. I was using this shit pretty heavy and felt zero side effects when i quit and even during use besides a few times when i overdid it. as long as I smoked responsibly i never had any problems..thats why all these people saying they have like permanent damage baffles me.

maybe it has something to do with the active ingredient?

jwh-018 doesnt seem to give me ANY bag side effects during or after use.

maybe its one of those other synthetic cannaboids thats doing it

I jsut found out mycousins been smoking it for 8 months straight, but he just gets pure jwh.. I think I am going to start buyin the pure shit and siwtch over to that from weed just to safe $

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Cegli, Thank you for your response.

10 days now and life is up and down for SWIM (someone who isn't me). Horrible. Every morning exactly as waking up anxiety flows in quickly. This anxiety subsides but it is difficult to control. Through out the day panic comes and goes. Mainly in the morning. As the afternoon comes around the individual sometimes feels entirely as if back to 'normal' this feeling can last all the way until waking up again the next morning. This in itself is discouraging to SWIM and very depressing. However, this is still much better than the first 6 days. There is some hope of SWIM regaining a normal life again.

The entire first 6 days every moment of life was in a partial daze. Eyesight was not exactly shakey, seems as if the eyes don't want to focus and lock onto one object, rater dart around the area where they are trying to focus. It is a hard symptom for SWIM to describe. Now on day 10 this is not always happening to SWIM.

SWIM was VERY aware of his heart rate during the first 6 days. SWIM measures his blood pressure and heart rate frequently now. Blood pressure and heart rate are usually increased during the episodes of panic. Much less so now. Now during panic swim feels slight tightness near his heart/chest, not extreme racing heart rate as before, SWIM thinks this is an improvement but sill slightly worrysome (maybe possible trauma from all of this). When SWIM feels 'normal' there is no chest tightness virtually at all. Overall now blood pressure and heart rate readings are fairly consistent with 'normal' which is good.

Balance seems to be off. Almost as if on a boat in very, very calm water. This adds to the panic and the developing depression because it is hard to regain composure and focus on normal aspects of life when the panic and balance issues are at work. When feeling 'normal' during phases of the day this is not present.

Every day SWIM wishes he never found these products. SWIM reads of people taking 2 weeks, 1 month, 2 months, 5 months, 1 year to be back to 'normal'. SWIM agonizes over this amount of time and is hoping for a fast recovery.

These symptoms have greatly impacted SWIM's ability to work; this has added extra panic of losing SWIM's job.

SWIM used to drink before this incident (has not sense) SWIM used to use marijuana in the past (at least 2 years ago). SWIM has never had any mental issues or been on any medications through out all of life.

SWIM worries he will never be fully back to normal, he hopes that sharing his story and possible recovery will help SWIM to find others like him and more answers while also helping others that may be suffering from the same problems and searching out more information.

SWIM asks that if more individuals can post their bad experiences and how they began to return to normal it is appreciated greatly.

SWIM would like to stress to others, this is no joke. This happend from the smoking blends, very little ammounts, and not from the pure chemical. SWIM understands many HAVE NOT been hurt from these products. SWIM HAS. Please take this story to heart.
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I believe the spice sometimes rotate their blend depending on law changes. No one really has any idea. I've seen articles where they isolated HU-210, JWH-018, CPxx,xxx, etc. People forget that a problem with the smoking blends, is that the people making these are not held to any sort of standard. They could spray a ton on some of the herb, and none on the rest. They could change their product the next time you buy it. The concentration could be higher or lower, the chemicals could be different and no one would have a clue.

I definitely made a mistake the first time with this, but my report was the second I'd ever seen on the internet. Because it was a cannabinoid, I took it too lightly. I'd never had a problem with the 40 other RCs I'd done before, and they were powerful psychedelics. This was just a cannabinoid. Well, it showed me to never underestimate anything :-).

If I were to go back to the JWH's, I would still get pure powder. Just be smart about it. Here's what I would do:

Dissolve 500mg in 250ml Acetone or whatever ration works for you. Measure out a .25-.5ml and drop it into a methpipe or on the herb of your choice. Let the acetone completely evaporate. Smoke it. Now you know you took exactly .5-1mg and you know the chemical. Simple. Acetone evaporates incredibly quickly as well.

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To HopingForNormal: Don't worry man, if you're feeling slightly better after only 10 days, I bet you have a somewhat speedy recovery coming. Believe me, I know how hard it is, but stick it out. I know exactly what you're talking about with the anxiety on waking, awareness of heartbeat. If your vision is mostly back to better, you're going to be fine. I know it's hard to not focus on it (almost impossible), but try and distract yourself. Go out with friends, play videogames, walk around outside, etc. It'll only get better and better with each new day.
 
In this post, I hope to cover several important aspects of the infamous "side effects" of JHW-xxx abuse.

Hopingfornormal, My first experience with JWH was "twisted" an herbal blend like Spice or k2..ect. I took three massive hits and almost Instantly I felt very strange, I became Extremely dizzy, confused, and the room seemed smaller than normal, everyones voices became extremely loud but somehow far away like from another world. I felt intense euphoria, so intense that it became extremely uncomfortable. Soon after my movements felt robotic and I only could only see 3 frames per second. I felt like I was moving in and out of my body and like I was dying.I was convinced my eyes were about to explode. The next day I felt a little spacey but nothing horrible. I smoked in much lower doses( a milder jwh mix i got online) since then and felt fine until one day:
I take a single it of the twisted again. Extreme panic.Heart racing.Waves of energy too intense to describe. Eyes felt like they were going to burst. SO SCARED. Similar robotic feeling and fps of the other night. Every day since then I have been having horrible nightmares of the experience and for two days afterwards I periodically became High out of no where(without smoking or using any substance), but it was all the bad parts of being high without the good euphoric feeling(memory loss, blurred vision ect..) I woke up with severe panic attacks 2 days after the even. I have good news though; It has been 4 days and I am back to normal. I feel slightly light headed once in a while and if I think about the bad experience I become anxious, but that is as far as it goes. EXERCISE HELPS ME A LOT. On the other hand, I have two roomates who smoke with me and one of them got the same thing I did but has not experienced any negative side effects since.

Here is my point of view: according to a couple scholarly articles I read and what I know from several psychology classes, The cause of your problems is most likely completely psychological, and the problems seem to be extremely similar to the symptoms of General Anxiety Disorder(GAD) which is caused by a disruption in the regulation of serotonin and Dopamine receptors.. According to one article, Your CB receptors have a great impact on the regulation of Serotonin and Dopamine in your brain. It is therefore no surprise that when you screw around with your CB receptors, you are risking screwing up the delicate balance of these Serotonin and dopamine receptors in your brain. Disruptions of this nature have also been known to be caused by traumatic events, or events which in the past have triggered great fear, depression or anxiety. In many cases, people who have GAD have been known to appear normal until their disorder is triggered by a traumatic event. Therefore, some people seem to be more prone to these bad side effects than others. Think about it; You have a hidden trait for GAD, You overdose on a drug that HIGHLY effects your CB receptors which highly effect your dopamine and serotonin levels, and you have an VERY traumatic experience which has been known to trigger anxiety disorders; YOU ARE JUST ASKING FOR A PANIC ATTACK! There is some good news though: Most of the time, a normal brain will be able to re-balance its levels over time. There are also many medicinal, behavioral, and natural treatments for anxiety and general anxiety disorder.THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO CONTROL YOUR THINKING!

How I overcame my panic attacks and anxiety:

1. Bought some St.John's Wort at Walmart for like $8..pop two capsules in the morning or whenever I feel a anxious. I have found this to work exceptionally well, definitely NOT a placebo!

2. Exercise. Running is a nice way to speed up your metabolism and get rid of all the shit you put in it.( I run about 3-4 miles a day which is kinda overkill, but I always feel very clear minded after a run) I also Powerlift 3 times a week.

3. Music. I listen to relaxing, happy music (not the same music I listened to during my bad experiences because that music usually triggers a bad reaction.)

4. Abstinence. Abstained from intense drug use until I felt 100% better.

5. avoided energy drinks because they usually make me anxious.

6. Find shit to do...If you sit around thinking about your bad experience, you will not improve psychologically! I find intellectually stimulating things to do to help bring focus and clarity back into my mind.


Other helpful stuff:

Here are some behavioral treatments for anxiety:

1. Control your thinking: try to think of good things rather than to focus on your problems/worries.
2. Find someone who has recovered from GAD and talk to them.
3. When facing panic or a panic attack, take deep breaths and think happy thoughts(corny though it may sound)
4. EXERCISE! LOTS AND LOTS OF EXERCISE. Exercise has been clinically proven to help increase mood and mental stability.( it definitely wont do any harm :p)

Here Is my Advice for JWH-xxx:
1. NEVER eyeball a dose.
2. Always start dosage as small as possible, wait 15 minutes then swim should dose more if needed.
3. Respect JWH, DO NOT THINK ABOUT IT LIKE IT'S Illegal friend THC, IT IS NOT THC AND IT IS RECKLESS TO TREAT IT THE SAME WAY!!
4. Always take such substances in a comfortable, relatively consistent environment, this will reduce the chance of anxiety and paranoia.

Other things that may be helpful:

Physical symptoms of generalized anxiety disorder (GAD)


* Muscle tension, aches, lightheadedness, or soreness
* Trouble falling asleep or staying asleep
* Stomach problems, nausea, diarrhea
* Jumpiness or unsteadiness
* Edginess or restlessness
* Tiring easily


Psychological symptoms of generalized anxiety disorder (GAD)
* Panic attacks
* Irritability
* Feelings of dread
* Inability to control anxious thoughts
* Inability to relax
* Difficulty concentrating
* Fear of losing control or being rejected




Some Resources:
effects of cb receptors on Seratonin and dopamine:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/pu3581274512355p/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10454705

Generalized Anxiety Disorder:

http://helpguide.org/mental/generalized_anxiety_disorder.htm
http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/disease/generalized-anxiety-disorder/risk-factors.html
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/generalized-anxiety-disorder-gad/index.shtml
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx24.htm
 
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Well, SWIM thanks everyone who posted.

SWIM feels it is important to continue logging his reactions after the horrible experience. SWIM hopes it will help someone else in a similar situation.

SWIM thinks that indeed this may be some panic disorder triggered by the panic attack, SWIM still hopes that this will eventually pass completely.

It has now been 3 weeks, 21 days, since SWIM had the ordeal. SWIM thinks these have been the longest 3 weeks of his life. He says looking back at day 1 it seems forever ago.

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The first week after was filled with what SWIM can only classify as insanity.

The second week was much better but still horrible. In the second week SWIM no longer felt his heart beating in his chest, rather a tightness in his chest developed instead (much more tolerable). In the second week the "daze" to life went away. Vision would go in and out of normal focusing. Some parts of days SWIM would feel completely normal.

The third week has been the best yet for SWIM, but is still discouraging. For absolutely no reason at all SWIM would still drift in slight panics throughout the week. There were 3 days where SWIM was almost completely back to normal (not in a row, but 3 days none the less without any strange feelings, vision problems, or worry) The other 4 days of the third week had mild panic issues which were all almost related and triggered from feeling vertigo. Or at least feelings of being off balance. SWIM reports really strange feelings when this happens. Mentally SWIM knows he is fine, there is no danger present, he is not in a bad situation, SWIM focuses on calming down and relaxing yet SWIM at times can't shake off the feelings of nervousness and this frustrates SWIM greatly.

During the third week SWIM knew and was astonished that for aprox. 1 to 1.5 hours of one day SWIM felt almost stoned again. This made no sense to SWIM as he believes that any traces of these chemicals should be out of SWIM's system by now. During this time SWIM's vision was affected and sounds were greatly amplified and enriched, SWIM's entire body felt heavy. SWIM continued through this trying to act normal. After about 1-1.5 hours it went away. This was very baffling and SWIM has told himself numerous times since that it must have just been in his head. Regardless SWIM feels he should let others know how he felt at the time.

So in summation the third week had some normal days :), and some days which were about half normal. The main issues in the third week have been feelings of vertigo, followed by very slight chest tightness, and then worry. Vision is mostly back to normal but the same focusing issues mildly come into play again during the feelings of vertigo. SWIM would like to add that this entire time SWIM has been drinking water like a fish. SWIM has also been taking walks and trying to exercise more.

SWIM will continue to fight through this and document from time to time.

SWIM again thanks other posters for their information and thoughts.
 
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Good luck man, sounds like you're recovering faster than I did, so you should I imagine you'll eventually be almost 100% back to normal!
 
acute anticholinergic syndrome

SWIM is a veteran. is possibly in the JWH business. tried it for a few weeks.

last friday took a couple bottom of the bowl resin/ashy tokes i guess you could call it

about 30 min later it crept up

but this time different

went to urgent care just to be safe because SWIM is not getting any younger (and girlfriend was there)

not a wuss

but this was bad

doctor says looked like anticholinergic response. ekg, piss, vitals, temp was ok

but heavy seizing of muscles, light headed, scary

not sure if exactly what caused that response

maybe a carrier herb in the blend?

but not that i know of

it might take a few more years to figure out what it can do

but also quality is important

this stuff can come from china and be made out of baby seals and toxic sludge if you know what i mean

buyer beware and know thyself
 
SWIM posted this on another website, and figures the update is worth posting here as well:

SWIM wanted to report back. It has been about 2 months since SWIM had his first episode. Still not back to normal, far from it… BUT SWIM reports being much better than originally. SWIM has now seen a few doctors, a psychiatrist, scoured the internet for information, and read some books. SWIM’s experience has been up and down. SWIM was put on medications from doctors, some which helped, others which made the situation worse and caused SWIM to have a complete mental/physical break down. SWIM then decided to no longer take any of the medication as SWIM felt it was causing more problems rather than fixing the previous ones. SWIM believes everyone is different so medications may work for you, or may not. That is for you to decide.

SWIM now has a form of panic/anxiety disorder. This was directly tied to the consumption of the commercial products Spike99 Ultra mixed with Mojo (plant material coated with synthetic cannabinoids). Before this SWIM never had any problems like these and was completely normal and functioned daily without issue.

Anyways, the symptoms SWIM has experienced off and on for the past 2 months have included. Extreme anxiety, dizziness, difficulties in visual focusing, chest tightness, strong awareness of heart beating, diarrhea, a worry of losing control and going insane, mild insomnia, on rare occasions shaking/tremors. These are all symptoms of panic disorder.

SWIM loves to read posts from people that think these symptoms are made up. SWIM can only say, wait until it happens to you or someone you know. Feelings and emotions then change quickly. SWIM says it is not something you ever want to experience and he wishes it on no one.

SWIM’s research has uncovered many online postings from many various websites with similar stories from both synthetic cannabinoids and from marijuana. Reports from people range from new smokers to daily smokers that just got hit with a panic attack after smoking problem free for 10 years. Most of the symptoms are the same and all point to panic/anxiety disorder.

SWIM wants to post some links in order to help others and asks the moderator to please allow them as there is no commercial interest. The only interest is in helping others that may stumble onto this information.

One of the sites with the most postings can be found here:
http://www.steadyhealth.com/Cannabis_Addiction-f115.html

Searching those postings with topics such as “Paranoia” and “Panic Attacks” usually have the most related information.

The most helpful information SWIM has found through all his research is that you are not going crazy and understanding that no matter what you do during a panic attack, at some point it WILL end. Writing down what you are feeling during a panic attack and then writing down why these feelings and ideas are unrealistic helps deal with panic when it is at its worst. Breathing exercises are also very helpful. Hyperventilating is common while having a panic attack. Breathing with your stomach moving is key. SWIM originally thought this was crazy and then found out it helped dramatically. This means when you inhale make sure your stomach moves out, when you exhale make sure your stomach moves in. Some things to try during a panic attack are to take a deep breath in through your nose, then hold your breath for 5-7 seconds and exhale slowly through your mouth. Repeat this 5-10 times, often closing your eyes and envisioning a calm scenario helps with this. Another breathing technique to use in conjunction is to close your eyes and take 8-10 small breaths in rapid succession through your nose, hold for 1 second, then exhale slowly through your mouth. Do this at least 5 times, on the 6th time open your eyes and continue the breathing. After a few minutes of this SWIM says you really should notice yourself feeling better. If not keep trying. It sounds ridiculous but it works and these or similar methods are recommended by treatment centers for panic attacks all over the world.

Treatment may work for you. Try and find out if there are places that offer CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy) treatment for panic disorders.

If there aren’t treatment centers near you there are web resources and books. A good free website that asks for NO information from you and contains NO advertisements is:
http://www.paniccure.com/

Some excellent books SWIM recommends are:
Mastery of Your Anxiety and Panic (4th Edition) Workbook by David H. Barlow and Michelle G. Craske
Panic Free by Lynne Freeman
Panic Attacks Workbook by David Carbonell

If you find the books in the library or purchase them somewhere make sure you get the Workbook editions and not the editions that would be for a Therapist.

Good luck to everyone and anyone going through this. SWIM will keep updating from time to time. Hopefully one update will be when SWIM no longer has these problems or at least can control them better.
 
Just FYI, we don't SWIM here at Bluelight, because it doesn't protect anyone at all and it's extremely annoying to read. If you're concerned about it, just tell the story as if about someone else ("he" instead of "I") or say you're posting the story for a friend and then use "I".

I know some forums require it, but we discourage it. It truly doesn't protect you - it's completely transparent (and could just as easily stand for "Someone Who Is Me" really).
 
I recently ordered two grams of JWH-018 (from two vendors to compare product). The first gram was delivered yesterday. The bag was 1.2 grams of off-white (slightly brownish) fine powder.

I eagerly got out some foil and eyed a tiny dose on the end of my knife (mistake #1). I had no scales and really have no idea what size dose I was about to ingest. I vaped it quickly and thought I had missed it completely because I looked up right as it began to melt. So, like an idiot, I immediately reloaded and repeated (mistake #2). I sat down on the couch and watched something on nat-geo about hobbits. By the time I sat down, I was feeling it. It is comparable to smoking pot, yet profoundly different. I tried to take in all of the effects and was very aware of the entire experience. There was pressure at the base of my head above my neck and the familiar anxious feeling one gets when too much pot is smoked was certainly present although not overwhelming. My vision was "trippy" and I found that if I focused, I could actually stare at something and slight visuals would happen. Maybe this was because I didn't blink much or something, I'm not positive, but the chemical was surely part of the reason. There was no body heaviness and not much, if any, relaxation.

After an hour and a half of watching T.V. and staring at the tiles on my floor I decided I wanted to get really high on this stuff (mistake #3). So I made a foil spoon and put a good sized bump in it (way way way too big). I hit it and noticed that I could actually see the smoke rolling off the spoon. When I exhaled a massive lung full of smoke was expelled from my chest (thankfully I didn't hold it in - although I recall cursing myself for not doing so at the time). Feeling I had wasted that toke, I continued smoking until it was all gone (mistake #4). I never got another hit like that big one, but I did see some of the smoke roll off those last hits.

I went to smoke a cigarette and as I was doing so I had a massive visual similar to some I have experience before. I know not many people have truly hallucinated from smoking marijuana - but I have on two or three occasions. This was similar yet very different. The landscape before me began to strobe erradically in black and bright, glowing white. It is very hard to describe - as things strobed the pulsed larger and smaller ( an o became an O and went back to an o and was changing from black to white respectively). I tried to stay calm but still, I knew I was fucked. The fear potentiated more fear and I thought to myself "take it easy - it will all be over in an hour and a half or so."

I walked back upstairs and tried to focus on the T.V. It hasn't even been 15 minutes yet it seems as if it has been an hour or so. As I am watching T.V. (I can not recall what was on because I couldn't focus on anything but the seriousness of my condition) I felt a strange feeling creep through my body and then culminate in my chest. As this strange energy came to a head I suddenly felt my heart just STOP (I don't think it really did but that was fucking horrifying) As if it were pure instinct, my right hand flew out to my side, came around and hit my chest. I quickly stood up and put my hand to my heart. It was beating HARD and FAST. Now thoughts of heart attacks race through my head almost as fast as my heart was pounding on my ribcage. This is the moment when thoughts of death could not be held in my subconscious any longer. I had visions of myself laying on the tile face down still clenching my chest while my mother walked in to find her son dead in her living room. Heavy shit. I debated weather or not to call an ambulance and decided against it considering it would most likely subside within and hour and a half of dosing.

Over the next hour my heart had that same feeling, though not as extreme, at least 5 more times. Each time I would stand up and walk around until I could feel a strong heart beat once more. At one point my left hand began to tremble. When I looked at my hand I could see it was moving but somehow I thought it was only my eyes playing tricks. At the same time I knew I just had a tremor.

During the overdose I sent an email to try to cancel my order from the other vendor via e-mail (later I found out I was too late). I did anything I could to keep my mind off of death.

It was about and hour and 45 minutes (as best as I can tell from glancing at the clock a few times during my TERROR-ATTACK) until most of the effects wore off. My mother arrived home a couple of hours later and asked if I was ok. She said I looked like something was wrong and when I asked her what she meant she said, "You look fucked up. Not high just fucked up." I totally agreed but I just said "I don't feel too well."

I actually ended up continuing to smoke more JWH-018 into the night - just one hit every 2-3 hours (mistake #5). I felt little to nothing off the hits taken after the ordeal I faced earlier in the day. I stayed up till sunrise watching Underbelly.

All day today I have felt somewhat sick and out of it - but mostly I contribute this to opiate withdraw. I am currently prescribed 24mg suboxone daily, but I try to take as little as possible. I feel way off still and my vision is giving me problems.

I tried to be thorough and detailed - but I'm feeling shitty and very jumpy today. I will keep an eye on this forum so if there are any questions feel free to ask and I will try to respond.
 
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so how are you guys doing whove gone through/been going through this synthetic cannabinoid post traumatic/general anxiety crap?

ive been going through it for about 4 months now and while i am quite a bit better than i was initially, i still feel bad most days. my symptoms include anxiety, pressure in my head (mostly left side), weakness/pressure in my left arm/shoulder, the inability to concentrate/focus to my normal capacity, some racing thoughts, insomnia sometimes and a few other minor things. this is really taking its toll on me and freakin cant wait to be back to normal.

i want to thank you guys for sharing your stories because i think if i felt alone on this, i would be majorly freaking out by now. i had an mri done about 6 weeks ago and it came out fine. im doing my best to get over this as far as good diet and exercise but i can not believe how long it lasts!

peace yall,

jackie
 
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