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(JWH-018/1.5 mgs) New experience: Holy shit, I'm dying! Worst night ever.

A lot better man, I barely think about it anymore. My vision is still a little off, but I'm use to it by now. It really cleared up a lot at the beginning of the summer. I think I was the first person to report on whatever you call this problem, so I'm probably the farthest into my recovery. Don't give up, it'll get better :-).
 
there may be ambiguity over the color of nearly pure JWH among users but Huffman was pretty clear on the subject.

'When John W. Huffman (the first chemist to synthesize JWH Series) was asked “What color is JWH-018?”, his reply was, “Pure JWH-018 is a very pale amber gum”.'
 
im glad youre doing a lot better cegli. it's been about 2 years for you now, eh? seems like an assload of time to still have a lil lil bit of symptoms. its really amazing what this stuff can do to ya. im sure even you vision will return to normal after some more time and itll be like nothing happened.

i have been feeling a lot better since i last posted. to compare how i feel now to how i did 3 months ago is that i feel worlds better. i still get some slight anxiety and also i get pressure in my left arm and on the left side of my head a few times a day but i think this will all go away eventually. sometimes i worry that ive done some type of nerve damage and i worry because i havent seen anyone else complain about pressure in their arm/head but it hasnt gotten worse and has gotten better so that makes me think itll be back to normal one day.

a good diet, plenty of water and exercise helps a great deal. so does abstaining from any drugs or alcohol and meditation.

if anyone runs into the post after searching for people with the same issue as them, try not to think youve done permanent damage and have ruined your life. after finding some people here who have gone through it, i did feel a lot better but i still found it hard to fully convince myself that id be 100% normal one day. but right now after being about 5months into my recovery, i can tell you ive been through all the crazy emtions and fears and TRUST ME that it will get better. it just can take some time. a lot more time than i woudlve liked =).

peace and much love to all!
 
Dude, the way you described your experience?

This is what I feel like when I smoke weed, EVERY TIME, vomitting, burning, super shocking pins and needles feeling, panicing...

But I am glad yer doing better, stay away from spice I guess lol.
 
drug test negitive

i recently took a dot test and it came back negitive..this stuff is chemicly different from thc so it wont show up,,it reflects the light wave differently than thc ..hince ..negitive for the current list of drugs tested for
 
Jesus, man. Cegli, your whole experience sounds EXACTLY like what I went through. I had a very rough experience on JWH-018 (and to be fair, 4-AcO-DET. But I am certain it was the JWH that caused this) and felt fine for a few days after the experience. But then I got much worse, feeling DP/DR, anxiety, and trouble with memory and cognition. I felt like I had fucked my brain up and that I would never recover.

I gradually did recover over the course of 3 months or so. I smoked weed very occasionally after this experience (though I didn't enjoy it as much as before), and one day I smoked too much and got very panicky again. The symptoms immediately returned. 2.5 months after that, I am slowly recovering again.

My days of smoking are over though, it is just far too big of a risk.
 
whoa whoa bro brownish lump? bee pollen yellow?

For those of you that don't know jwh-018 is a white crysally powder substance none of theese brownish lumps of unpure coke you all are talking about, no wonder u are sitting in the corner for 5 hours bro you weren't even smokin -018, I have only had one bad expeirence with jwh and I have smoked it many many times and I "snowglobed" a bowl of the blend I had already made double regular potency, we just top coated the whole bowl with jwh and I hit it held it in forever and started to hallicunate and have heavier breathing and anxiety, and my heart was beating significantly faster within a half hour the conditions stopped and went back to a normal high but this is coming from a very experienced 018 tester (never recomending the snowglobe)
 
I hated spice

I smoked some called bonzai my friend who for some reason loves spice said its the strongest that we have where I live

Took 4 pretty big hits and got pretty much the same feelings as the OP but not as intense. Crazy body high, felt like somone grabbbed me on the shoulders and was shaking the shit out of me nonstop, and my heart was racing the entire time. At the peak things just got way worse. I thought I was gonna die, or have a seizure cause I was feeling my body get stiff and start to twitch every now and than

Probably the only cool/funny thing about it was that the whole time I felt like my life was a tv show, like I was living in a cartoon world. Not that I had visuals or anything it was just that weird of an experience, and thats the only way I could describe it. It got so bad that I couldnt even talk to my friend at all I was just sitting there quiet hoping for it to end soon, but didnt get my wish till a couple hours later lol

I decided to drink some oj which was a bad idea cause it was tripping me the fuck out haha I have no idea why. Than my friend started playing halo and it was scaring the shit out of me.

The next day my friend smoked out three other people with it. Two of them threw up and they said the other was asking to go to the hospital 8o

bottom line... fuck spice. Some people like it but I hated it
 
This sounds horrible...I've smoked spice blends before and I don't mind them but I definitely prefer good old dank cannabis. When I do smoke spice, rarely, I like to sprinkle a bit on top of my bowls of cannabis.

Stuff like this is why I'm wary of trying the pure JWH chemicals...I'd much rather smoke a bit in an herbal blend...not as much potential for smoking too much at once.
 
Hello cegli,

I was just wondering if you ever felt %100 since you experience with JWH-018. I had the misfortune of trying this substince thinking it was safe since it was legal. If I would have been sober and read the label I would have taken it and thrown it in the trash. I had a terrible night on it and the easiest way to describe it was I was in hell or what my mind thought it would be. It has been two months since the night I OD on it and I still dont feel back to normal though I feel much better. I know have contasnt headaches and pains from my neck up which I never had before. I detoxing my entire body, reading/engaging my brain and exercising alot. If you could please just let me know how long it took for you to feel %100, thank you.
 
I also want to tell my experience of what happened to me and maybe it can help other people going through the same problems. It all started on 10/09/2010 (which is a day I will never forgot) I was at a friend’s house drinking like I normally do on the weekends. Now I have smoked weed in the past, but only 8 times and each time varied from being uncomfortable to having a great time. I always felt fine the next day though after either drinking or smoking. So after about 4 beers and 2 shots I was getting pretty drunk and my friend proceeded to go outside to smoke. I accompanied him to socialize, I was talking to him outside as he smoking and I asked what it was. He then told me it was blend of herbs that he had purchased at a local smoke shop. Now since I was intoxicated my judgment wasn’t the best, but I trusted my friend and took one hit thinking well since it is legal it is safe. For the first 5 minutes I felt extremely high which was fine, but then I started to feel sick almost to the point where I had to lay down. I walked inside so I could sleep it off, but that’s when the spins started coming. Now I have had the spins before from alcohol, but this was 100% worst. I was grabbing the floor and solid objects around trying to tell myself that is was all in my head. This went on for what seemed like hours though I couldn’t even comprehend what time was during this. After the spins stopped I started to discount from reality I felt like I had died and gone to hell or what my brain understood hell to be. I remember almost losing who I was and thinking my entire life was a fake, but at the same time thinking it was bad dream that I would wake up from in my bed. Another thing I remember was a never ending circle spinning in a closed loop I was thinking I was going to be stuck for an eternity. At this point my friends came over and started to talk to me. I just remember thinking that they were not my friends and they actually were against me. I finally was able to get up and somewhat move around which at this point I started to vomit everything I could. I drank a lot of water after vomiting and I still felt like shit plus I was exhausted mentally and physically. I crashed again and actually sleep waking up at 9:00 am realizing were I was and what had happened. I didn’t feel to bad right then mainly embarrassed so I went home decided to go for a walk to clear my head. On my walk my brain went into a haze almost like a fog and I couldn’t think straight. This scared the shit out of me because I never had experienced it before. I got home and started researching the drug after I found out what it was. After the research I was getting even more worried because of how new the drug was and effects people have had on it. That night I went to bed hoping I would feel better the next day, but only 2 hours into sleeping I woke up thinking I was going to die. It was a terrible feeling and I couldn’t sleep at after that so I played some games and went for a 5 mile jog. Then continued for 4 days though it was slowing getting better I still had the brain fog though. It has been almost two months since my bad experience and though things have gotten better I still don’t feel like my normal self. Lately I have been drinking a lot more water and doing a body detoxes along with getting a lot of exercise. I now suffer from constant head pains that are from my neck up which I never had before. At this point I was to just feel normal again, feel like I can take on the world. I now suffer from anxiety which I never had and just feel weird in the head. I have also noticed the eye floaters like op.
 
cegli said:
Be very careful with these, especially if your not a regular pot smoker. I have a feeling that some of the dosages being thrown around are being created by people with large tolerances. Plus I may be abnormally non tolerant. Hope this helps someone from going through what I went through.
Oh, and my girlfriend says "hi", haha.

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I would saying having a large tolerance to weed has nothing to do with having a large tolerance to JWH.

If you smoke weed everyday in big amounts, a small amount of JWH may still make you trip balls. The tolerances are unrelated.
 
The thing with JWH is they really don't know that much about it which is the main reason I was so worried about my bad experience with it. If it was a drug that had been around for a long time or was natural then I wouldn't be as scared. That is the last time that I will ever make myself a human guinea pig.
 
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same experience

HopingForNormal said:
Very interested in hearing of individuals recovery from these spice blends.

someone who isn’t me purchased Spike99 Ultra and Mojo, had smoked very little amounts of each. (About 2 hits each session) over 4 sessions each spaced out between different weeks everything was fine and the product seemed to be nice.

On the 5th session (6 days ago) after again only 2 hits, things went very bad. Strong tremors developed through the body and would come in waves, heart rate seemed extremely strong and fast, mind racing in many directions. A feeling of possible death was present. This experience lasted about 1.5 hours.

The week following this event has been difficult for this individual. There has been a constant sense of being off balance and light headed. A sense of overall not-well being has accompanied these symptoms and something resembling panic attacks have been taking place. Trying to calm down is very difficult at times. Vision is mostly normal with slight shaking. Individual notices concentrating is more difficult. Slight nausea is also felt at times.

This individual is hoping these symptoms go away and that life will again be ‘normal’. This individual hopes he will come out of this horrible ordeal.

The past 6 days have been very scary.

If there are others that have experienced this and have had these symptoms fade away. Please post.
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I have had the same experience. Its been a month now and the dizziness is still there. Have u had any relief yet?
 
nuke said:
If you're in America, not really. It depends how good a lawyer you have.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Analog_Act
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Actually the Federal Analog Act only applies to scheduled substances and none of these cannabimimetic indoles currently hold that status.
EDIT: ok NOW they do?
I doubt you'd have an easy time convincing a judge it wasn't for human consumption if you buy it from a website that specifically talks about humans consuming it.
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Simple, find a different vendor! mentioning human consumption is quite unprofessional.
Also, the stuff going around right now is really suspicious.
What the hell? Unreacted naphthalene?
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I've been hearing alot about that turpentine taste.. I'm wondering if it's just unevaporated acetone? similar tastes in my mind... probably not naphthalene though, as it isn't used in the synthesis.
stuckinaloop said:
Also, someone correct me if I am wrong, I've read that spice products have CP47,497 not jwh-018.
Maybe that is why a lot of people are experiencing weird side effects.
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different spices contain different things. I'm positive at least some contains CP-47,497 while I'm sure others still contain JWH-018 while some contain both and there are still others that contain other compounds entirely! long story short, stick to the pure RC's if you want to know what you're getting.
 
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new chemical

hi i have been a very active user of jwh-018 from august to november, i firmly believe at high dosages it is one of the strongest trips out their, most highs are extremely good and make you feel good but this has two major emotional feelings for me the first hour and a half is good but honestly it sends me to a very dark place full of paranoid fears that people are plotting against me and mental punishment for my "sins", i call this dying it would happen quite often but soon i became immune to the dark place and i soon became obsessed with getting back there, in way i was addicted to this feeling after the first hour and a half it became a very great body high for a few hours. I always did this in private never in public because of the body tremors and the freaking out of the hallucinations that it caused. After i became immune to this feeling i was ready for doing it in public, but i hadnt done it in a couple of weeks so i go to a high school football game and smoked more than usual and pretty soon realized that i was going to my dark place, i ended up freaking out because i thought the whole world was their because all the lines were unusually long i left couldnt handle it. In november it was made illegal in my state and about a month after they came out with a different chemical not near as strong as the original, so i quit but then today i was at lunchat school and the convience store that i always bought that from had a new brand wit a new chemical, so i bout it to try and smoked it out of a pipe with my friend who started smoking this with me when we first found out about it, he has usually the same trip as i do. AFter a couple of hits i realized that it was kicking in and it was unreasonbly strong i take two more hits and start walking back to school and i realize that this is stronger than jwh-018, it was the most intense high ive ever had, it was a very dark high, as close as i can get to describing it is it was very serious feeling. I felt like i was holding someone hostage at gunpoint, thats how serious it felt. for some reason i really like that even though after that happens i should probably see a psychitrist or a therapist, this definatly should not be sold to teenagers or any one that young because their immature minds cant handle this i have seen plently of people break down and cry on this, i have had my own personal experiences like that too,and i would advise if you are religious at all dont do this because its pretty legite shit, you will never be the same after this you will basically perceive things in a new light.
 
Some people are clearly more sensitive to synthetic cannabinoids than others, and I'm unfortunately in that first group, together with the original poster of this thread :(

A few monts ago I took two or three hits of pure JWH-018 from a smoking pipe (didn't measure it, just eyeballed a tiny pinch, which was obviously a very big mistake!), and noticed the effects immediately. At first I felt motion sickness and had difficulty standing upright. I felt as if I was inside a spinning wheel moving way too fast. Then I started to gradually lose control of my body until I couldn't move any part of it voluntarily. I couldn't even open my eyelids and had to remain "blind" for the rest of the trip, against my will.

The first minutes were nice and enjoyable, but when I lost control of my own body things started to get ugly. I fell on my side and crumpled into a fetal position, and shivered violently. Then I vomited, and kept shivering for almost two hours. In the meantime, my heart was beating rapidly and I felt a VERY VERY strong burning sensation in my heart, it really hurt a lot, and it scared the shit out of me, because I thought I was having a heart-attack.

Thankfully, the effects finally waned after approximately two and a half hours. And I slowly recovered control of my body and my pulse went back to normal.

My friends were about to call an ambulance just as I was recovering. If I had remained in that "catatonic" state for a few more minutes, I would probably have ended up in the hospital :(
 
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