On Extraction and Synthetic Drugs

[DXMkid420]

look TEO, you have a good message but you just used the wrong approach

 

[Delsyd]

My main point is that all naturally occurring plants should be legal.

With a side order of insulting synthetic drugs and their users

 

[swilow]

Fuck the plants.

I keep opening the thread to ths post, and damned if I don't hear Rambo saying it

well, that amused me at least :D

 

[Teotzlcoatl]

Really fuck the plants?

Are y'all that stupid?

^Your preaching to the choir on that one my friend.

So we can all agree that, if anything, that all plants should be legal?

Right?

 

[polidelaiko]

All synthetics should be legal too.

 

[Shambles]

All drugs should be legal.

 

[Visitor Q]

If the thread was in fact about making plants legal, why has it stirred up so much controversy?

Because that's simply not true.

What offended members of the Bluelight community, I believe, was the discrimination against synthetics and extracts which was made very clear in the beginning as well as the lack of logical rigor imposed by a set of ridiculous questions to determine the safety of a drug.

Had it been, like Teo mentioned, a simple question of legality:

1. The thread would not have had "On Extraction and Synthetic Drugs" as a title.
2. The first post should have made the question of legality clear.
3. Teo would not have battled ferociously against his peers, as most believe that plants SHOULD NOT BE ILLEGAL.

I think Teo has problems admitting defeat. And admitting that he has poor debate hygiene.

I think he should sit and learn.

Oh, and I encourage you Teo to answer Roger&Me's question please:

"What is a normal person?"

 

[Delsyd]

Really fuck the plants?

Are y'all that stupid?


So we can all agree that, if anything, that all plants should be legal?

While i dont agree with the "fuck plants" sentiment its basically the same attitude you give off towards synthetic drugs.
Which makes you look a little ignorant

and yes all plants should be legal aswell as all other drugs.

 

[Roger&Me]

and yes all plants should be legal aswell as all other drugs.

I would extend that same sentiment to any form of matter that isn't passively destructive (like radioactive material, etc).

Outlawing matter because you're afraid of how people might use it just seems kinda crazy to me.

 

[Visitor Q]

Outlawing matter because you're afraid of how people might use it just seems kinda crazy to me.

Amen.

 

[Teotzlcoatl]

"What is a normal person?"

I did answer that, silly-monkey!

I think Teo has problems admitting defeat.

Ok, I admit defeat.

Now... that we've got that cleared up... let's continue....

All drugs should be legal.

I disagree, as would most people.

Heroin, meth, cocaine, those things should NOT be legal.

Sorry.

I completely agree with decriminalizing them, but completely legal and openly sold?

Hell no!

 

[greenmeanies]

that doesn't make much sense.

just like how alcohol prohibition fostered an underground black market with uncontrolled standards (and poorly made stills that yield deadly green copper liquor), keeping these "hard drugs" illegal is enabling the underground drug trade, complete with multinational kingpins and guns.

if heroin, meth, and coke were 'legal' like cigarettes and alcohol are legal, there would be accountability for the purity of products, and there would be less social stigma for addicts to get help if they are in too deep. i'm sure you see ads on TV all the time for alcoholics anonymous, or nicorette gum. one of the biggest sources of income for many state governments is the tax revenue on these two "drugs".

 

[Teotzlcoatl]

if heroin, meth, and coke were 'legal' like cigarettes and alcohol are legal, there would be accountability for the purity of products, and there would be less social stigma for addicts to get help if they are in too deep. .

And I think that is bullshit, people would still act crazy with substances like meth and heroin. Those substances are very addictive and have very harmful side effects.

It may also help to note that I am in favor of distilled alcohol being made illegal.

just like how alcohol prohibition fostered an underground black market with uncontrolled standards (and poorly made stills that yield deadly green copper liquor), keeping these "hard drugs" illegal is enabling the underground drug trade, complete with multinational kingpins and guns.

Decriminalize small amounts, put the addicts in rehab and put the kingpins in jail for a very long time.

But I don't think it should be totally legal at all...

i'm sure you see ads on TV all the time for alcoholics anonymous, or nicorette gum. one of the biggest sources of income for many state governments is the tax revenue on these two "drugs".

im fine with rehab programs, that is good stuff

 

[Roger&Me]

I did answer that, dip-shit.

Let's keep it civil here, friend.

Its cool to attack arguments and ideas, but not people.

 

[Teotzlcoatl]

I did answer that, silly-monkey!

sorry, edited to something more reasonable.

 

[Shambles]

And I think that is bullshit, people would still act crazy with substances like meth and heroin. Those substances are very addictive and have very harmful side effects.

Heroin does no physical harm. Heroin of unknown purity kills. Also, in countries that have actually had the balls to decriminalise (if not quite the balls to legalise) addiction, crime and overall drug use drops. You're opinion is fine cos it's your opinion. But it doesn't fit with the observed evidence.

It may also help to note that I am in favor of distilled alcohol being made illegal.

Cos that worked out just great last time, huh?

Decriminalize small amounts, put the addicts in rehab and put the kingpins in jail for a very long time.

But I don't think it should be totally legal at all...

You mean pretty much the same as it is now then. Doesn't work so great though. Unlike full decriminalisation which is far more effective. Legalisation is just taking it to it's logical conclusion.

im fine with rehab programs, that is good stuff

Nice to know you haven't completely lost the plot

 

[Delta-9-THC]

I would extend that same sentiment to any form of matter that isn't passively destructive (like radioactive material, etc).

Outlawing matter because you're afraid of how people might use it just seems kinda crazy to me.

What about bomb making materials? Chemical warfare agents? You really think that making those readily available is a good idea? That's a little naive IMO. I just don't see the upside in it.

Edit: I guess chemical warfare agents would fall under "passively destructive".

 

[swilow]

/thread.

 

[Teotzlcoatl]

It may also help to note that I am in favor of distilled alcohol being made illegal.

Beer and wine would still be legal.

Heroin does no physical harm.

I'm sure meth and coke doesn't either.

I'm sure they're aren't addictive either and that is just a made up drug-myth too.

Ya... sure.

What about bomb making materials? Chemical warfare agents? You really think that making those readily available is a good idea?

Nukes. Anthrax. Heroin. Meth. Guided Missiles. Plutonium.

Somethings should not be legal for average citizens to possess.

 

[Delta-9-THC]

/thread.

LOL it does seem to have run its course doesn't it?