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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy 4-HO-DiPT Thread

I have only two trials with 4-AcO-DiPT. At first it was 10 mgs, it was pretty nice. Social, some muscle tightness in the shoulders, but very nice.

The second time i can't even remember my dose. I think I did like 11, then i redosed like 23 or something ridiculous. Anyways, I did NOT have an easy time. It was reckless, but I was okay. It actually ended very hilariously.

We were just over our really scary peak, and decided to go for a walk. As soon as we are walking out the door, our roomates new friend Vonda shows up TOTALLY hammered. She was so drunk, i thought she was a severe alcoholic native on benzodiazepines, turns out it was a lovely italian lady with the most intense energy possible. Anyways, we didn't end up going for a walk, but we did manage to help Vonda up from the bottom of her really sorry state.

In retrospect, 4-Aco-DiPT is gold, very peculiar ally though.. DO NOT taste this one, it tastes SOOOOOOO BAD. Just a warning. It can be a harsh teacher.

Underground Troll and I were quite shaken by its intensity. I bet it has a wonderfully playful side though.

I think tonight i will add some 4-AcO-DiPT to my already going 5-meo-mipt/2C-E/ketamine combo, will report back !
 
You see i am extremely interested in this substance for its intensity and brevity.

I don't think this substance is going to be anywhere near as taxing as DPT or 2c-e.

I personally really enjoy strong visuals.
The Short duration is what has actually drawn me to this product.
 
Doses up to 25mg have not produced OEV but have produced fantastic CEV's. To me, they resembled the neon square + line geometry of mescaline in the way that the the shapes and designs unfold in the mind's eye. One of the main differences was the ability of the CEV's to represent the body's inner systems. For example, one CEV i remember distinctively was a rotating 3d picture of my brain. I could see electrical impulses traveling throug it. As i performed some activity, had a thought, or changed an emotion I could literally "see" the electrical impulses directed to the parts of the brain responsible for each change. I also recall stretching and exercising and "seeing" my muscles, bones, tendons, and ligaments stretching and working in brilliant colors in my mind's eye.

Imagery was also closely tied to music. Dead Can Dance conjured visions of gothic cathedrals and secret groups meeting in hidden caverns. My wife's Beyonce threw me into the middle of a loud construction zone then a large arena concert with pyrotechnics and expensive production. It was like music = astral projection to an environment controlled by the music. Almost all of this imagery, with the exception of the exercise, was seen/felt with closed-eyes while stationary.

The cons of this chem are the muscle tremors and the racing thoughts/wakefulness/schizo mind-state that persists even after the primary effects wear off.
 
ive had one experience at 22-24mg.
it was barely visual. Some breathing and color enhancement but nothing mind blowing.

I found it to be highly euphoric and erotic both mentally and physically, at times exclaiming how physically i felt better than mdma. and it went great with music. I spent the entire trip (2 or so hours) laying in bed listening to music feeling amazing.

As far as being like 4 aco dmt. i find the two to be completely different.
Iprocin was just a euphoric, recreational high while psilacetin is a deep powerful ally.
 
Iprocin isn't just a recreational high though. Shulgin himself had a near ++++ on Iprocin did he not ? Even though it might not lend itself to cosmic revelations, it can cause deep psychedelic experiences. This one just has a very complex language. It is a strange teacher.

I said Iprocin here, I should mention that I have only tried Iprocetin
 
This one does have a strange character indeed. 4-AcO-DiPT sometimes seems to be mild and recreational but if I lie down and meditate this one has the potential to bring me very deep, very fast. Lots of strong carrier waves on this one and I've knocked on the doors of ++++ with it also. I wouldn't be surprised if more practice with it produced reliable ++++'s.
 
well my G-unit (lols)
of 4-aco-dipt arrived today, i will be conducting some tests shortly.

Hopefully nothing bad happens.

You see, i am one to lie down and meditate on these substances.
Thats about the only thing i really do, i am not a very recreational user of these substance.

But i do enjoy 5-meo-mipt at work. lol. Call Center job is so much easier...



anyways, Trails shall begin probably around 20mg... maybe 25..

All depends if it feels as eletrically violent at 4-ho-mipt,
4-ho-mipt raised my blood pressure ridiculously.
 
I have had a lot of experience with 4-aco-dipt, and it is surely one of my favorites. I find that it allows my mind to really explore psychedelic thoights while staying pretty clear-headed.

I also find that this stuff goes great with methylone. I have tried the 4-aco-dipt both before, during, and after the methylone. All seem to be great, but I would probably prefer dosing them simultaneously, then redosing the 4-aco-dipt about 2-3 hours later.

This stuff is great! I really enjoy pushing the limits with it... it is good for that :)
 
TransitEternal said:
I have had a lot of experience with 4-aco-dipt, and it is surely one of my favorites. I find that it allows my mind to really explore psychedelic thoights while staying pretty clear-headed.

I also find that this stuff goes great with methylone. I have tried the 4-aco-dipt both before, during, and after the methylone. All seem to be great, but I would probably prefer dosing them simultaneously, then redosing the 4-aco-dipt about 2-3 hours later.

This stuff is great! I really enjoy pushing the limits with it... it is good for that :)
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What are your muscle tremors like, or do you not get them?
 
I get them as well. It helps to keep the dosage on the lower side.

The worst side effects I had where I was actually contemplating calling a friend to take me to the hospital was actually in combo with methylone.

I took 130mg and 25mg 4-aco-dipt about 3 hours later. I puked, then got tremors, and got sharp electric sensation in my brain and felt like I was on the edge of a seizure; gladly it never came. I was also very dizzy, disoriented, and went to the bathroom but had a hard time aiming. :\

It's one of those things to be wary of in combo with stimulants. I also should mention that was the highest dose of it I've ever taken (25mg) and it was in combo, so it might be fine with a lower dose. I find this one has a steep dose/response curve over 20mg.
 
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What are your muscle tremors like, or do you not get them?
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When I do get them, they are usually centralized in the thigh region... but it's hard to say sometimes. At higher doses (35mg+) this tremor sensation can become quite noticeable, but I actually enjoy it.

I have also noticed a similar tremor sensation with other tryptamines I have done, especially the 4-substituted ones.
 
of course and i don't know but you can generally expect a rectal dose to be substantially more potent. General rule of thumb (or ass rather) is to go with half to maybe 2/3 of an oral dose
 
Does anyone with more biochem/medical knowledge than I speculate on whether Iprocetin's ability to cause temporary shakes/spasms is indicative of its ability to induce a permanent state like that? I like everything else about this one especially the CEV's w/ music around 25mg but after four trials, each with muscle spasms, I hesitate to try it again.
 
hey

In 2-3 days I'll be getting my hands on a batch of 4-AcO-DIPT. I'm really, really excited and can't wait to try this compound, but I have the following problem:

the person I'm getting it from told me that he isn't sure what form the amine is (freebase, hcl/fumurate salt). Any way I could determine this? I don't have access to any cromatography analysis equipment :). I was thinking about doing some solubility tests in water, but when I told this to my provider he responded that his 2 solubility tests were not conclusive.. so do you people have any idea of how could I proceed?
 
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