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MDxx Pills Disappearing... Piperazine Pills Taking Over?

Sustanon said:
He got piped. Honestly im going to sounds rude from now on but anyone who buys and gets a pip pill deserves getting piped. Why buy pills for when u know that theres a 1 in 100 chance of getting an MDMA pill.
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you couldnt be more wrong. Ill say it before and ill say it again, its all a case of who you know and where you are, and what circles you float in. In particular circles of people you could come to quite substantial physical harm for passing off fake or dangerous pills, people only flog them off to people they believe wont either know the difference, care coz its for cash anyway, or know they are too pussy to say anything about it.

ive NEVER gotten pips from my source, ever. But i have gotten ghosts, tstars, scorps, red crowns, incredibles and fish. Conclusion? theres still LOADS of mdma around, your just not looking in the right places.

peace.
 
^^ Judging by the pill names you've mentioned, you're from melb/vic. In brisbane we seriously had a 2/3 month period with zero, ZERO mdma pills around, no matter how well you thought you were connected.

And lets hope you never get pipes, i've avoided them, but only by being carefull, don't 'trust' anyone, as your source is still just making money off you, and i hope he only deals in mdxx... but one day my friend, you will come across a pipe, trust me on this.
 
Sykik said:
^^ Judging by the pill names you've mentioned, you're from melb/vic. In brisbane we seriously had a 2/3 month period with zero, ZERO mdma pills around, no matter how well you thought you were connected.

And lets hope you never get pipes, i've avoided them, but only by being carefull, don't 'trust' anyone, as your source is still just making money off you, and i hope he only deals in mdxx... but one day my friend, you will come across a pipe, trust me on this.
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Sukik, after your bad run of pills, there seems to be a few good ones floating around your neck of the woods. Hope they keep coming.

Sustanon, I tend to agree with the other poster, pills still available through the right sources, if the source is bad, turn them off, they will soon get the point. I have had two pip experiences in the past two years. Both have been from random sources (a club in the UK and a random dealer when on holiday) so I only have myself to blame for them.
If you have a reliable source you should be educating them on pips, and telling them you don't want them and to come back when they have something half decent, I say half decent, because thats about as good as they get nowadays :)
 
R32_GTR said:
you couldnt be more wrong. Ill say it before and ill say it again, its all a case of who you know and where you are, and what circles you float in. In particular circles of people you could come to quite substantial physical harm for passing off fake or dangerous pills, people only flog them off to people they believe wont either know the difference, care coz its for cash anyway, or know they are too pussy to say anything about it.

ive NEVER gotten pips from my source, ever. But i have gotten ghosts, tstars, scorps, red crowns, incredibles and fish. Conclusion? theres still LOADS of mdma around, your just not looking in the right places.

peace.
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Conclusion:

1. U are just a recreational user who doesnt buy pills often so less chance of getting shit pills

2. U dont know the difference between mdma and pips

Do u even actually live in Australia? I dont know where u live but the whole world is flooded with pips. U must live next door to a lab lol

Yeah all about who u know, funny my old dealer who was dealing massive amounts always had good mdma then one day he was getting piperazines (yellow jordans). Just check my reports on pill reports and see what happened.

If there was alot of good beans around here everyone would be selling them. Just because u bought a mdma bean here and there that was actualy decent dont assume everyone is lucky like u. Try buying it every single week and see how many pips u get compared to mdma ones. I just laugh most of the time, and feel sorry at the same times for people who are new to the scene. Ive seen atleast a 50-100 diff pip pills in my life. Ive prob only taken 1-2 in a club not knowing what they are only after to find out what they really contained. My bad experiences were with piperazine powders mainly.
 
Sustanon said:
Conclusion:

1. U are just a recreational user who doesnt buy pills often so less chance of getting shit pills

2. U dont know the difference between mdma and pips

Do u even actually live in Australia? I dont know where u live but the whole world is flooded with pips. U must live next door to a lab lol

Yeah all about who u know, funny my old dealer who was dealing massive amounts always had good mdma then one day he was getting piperazines (yellow jordans). Just check my reports on pill reports and see what happened.

If there was alot of good beans around here everyone would be selling them. Just because u bought a mdma bean here and there that was actualy decent dont assume everyone is lucky like u. Try buying it every single week and see how many pips u get compared to mdma ones. I just laugh most of the time, and feel sorry at the same times for people who are new to the scene. Ive seen atleast a 50-100 diff pip pills in my life. Ive prob only taken 1-2 in a club not knowing what they are only after to find out what they really contained. My bad experiences were with piperazine powders mainly.
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I do hear where you are coming from, there is way too many pips around, you only need to look at the PR to see how many compared to even 18mths ago in Oz, my brief visits to the UK, they are everywhere. I guess the only answer is that if you want to do pills still, is when there are med dose MD, buy up and whorde. It is something I tend to do. However I do not do weekly, I am much more a casual user, so maybe I am not a great judge of the market . . . but do keep a close eye on it :D
 
^^ there are now some mdxx pills around and I am happy. But to stay on topic, pipes are taking over, slowly, but it's hard battle for mdxx.
 
Of course there are mdxx ones around im not saying there non existent im just saying that bunks, pipes and other mixes are taking over. Im just trying to figure out why the hell was it good 4-5 years ago when we didnt even know about pips or anything else.
 
More mainstreme, more money to be made, un edjucated fools muching shit, war on precusors, etc etc.... just doesnt look good.
 
Sustanon said:
Of course there are mdxx ones around im not saying there non existent im just saying that bunks, pipes and other mixes are taking over. Im just trying to figure out why the hell was it good 4-5 years ago when we didnt even know about pips or anything else.
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There are two main factors involved, both overseas influences.
First of all the price of pills in the UK, over the last 5-10 yrs, the street price has been decimated. This has led to much lower profits on good MDMA pills, this in turn made producers look for cheaper ingredients to still be able to sell at street prices and make the profits they used on MDMA (hence all the shitty adulterants we see now)
Secondly pips (BZP especially) have been legal in other countries (NZ, UK) until recently, this led to high population of pills/pill manufacturers, therefore customers, since the law change in NZ, the manufacturers have decided that if they are going to break the law in NZ if they still manufacture and sell, they may as well do it here too. BZP is a lot harder to detect for the dogs, therefore easier to smuggle

The only way we will see less PIPS and a return to better pills is if we take up the governments war on drugs cry and "just say no!".

Of course when it comes to good clean MD (well maybe a little dirty =D) they of course we will say Yes;)
 
Sustanon said:
Conclusion:

1. U are just a recreational user who doesnt buy pills often so less chance of getting shit pills

2. U dont know the difference between mdma and pips

Do u even actually live in Australia? I dont know where u live but the whole world is flooded with pips. U must live next door to a lab lol

Yeah all about who u know, funny my old dealer who was dealing massive amounts always had good mdma then one day he was getting piperazines (yellow jordans). Just check my reports on pill reports and see what happened.

If there was alot of good beans around here everyone would be selling them. Just because u bought a mdma bean here and there that was actualy decent dont assume everyone is lucky like u. Try buying it every single week and see how many pips u get compared to mdma ones. I just laugh most of the time, and feel sorry at the same times for people who are new to the scene. Ive seen atleast a 50-100 diff pip pills in my life. Ive prob only taken 1-2 in a club not knowing what they are only after to find out what they really contained. My bad experiences were with piperazine powders mainly.
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its shit like this that really gets the hair on the back of my neck standing up.

1) ive been eating pills in Aus for 10 years, dont tell me how many pills i have or havent eaten

2) Dont tell me i dont know the difference between mdma and pips, read my reports on pillreports, ive been eating pills for neally a decade and have been consuming molly for the same amount of time, you dont know me so dont tell me what i do and dont know. In 10 years ive NEVER been scammed with a pip pill, conclusion? I have good sources and carry a small air of respect, therefore ive never been ripped off on pills.

The fact that you are an oldtimer and still have shit sources tells me you dont know anyone that important, who themselves probably have terrible sources, and get ripped off a lot, proven by the amount of piperazine you have had passed off to you in your time.

Stop attacking others who have reliable sources and telling them they know nothing, its you that knows nothing thinking there is no mdma around just because you cant get it.

there IS mdma in australia, i eat it every week, you just cant get any sustanon, probably because the attitude you have here is how you act in real life as well and nobody wants to really help you out.

pull your head in a little sustanon mate, just take on board and accept different people in different locations have different availability.

p.s, blue and lavender fish this week ;) yummy
 
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Lets leave it at that guys. Keep the discussion on track and away from personal attacks. :\

Any further personal attacks will simply be removed, and if it continues further, then so will the process!!
 
no worries lil_angel!

On a positive note these fishys are tasty, cant wait to get on em again this weekend lol! No pips in these lil badboys!
 
So, bye-bye, Mr MDMA guy
Drove my holden to the dealer
But the dealer was dry
And them good old boys were smokin' speed and are fried
Singin' this'll be the day that E died
This'll be the day that E died

I thought a song would be most fitting to describe Australia's situation at the moment.

For those of you who didn't quite get it, the tune is American Pie, oh the irony.
 
R32_GTR said:
its shit like this that really gets the hair on the back of my neck standing up.

1) ive been eating pills in Aus for 10 years, dont tell me how many pills i have or havent eaten

2) Dont tell me i dont know the difference between mdma and pips, read my reports on pillreports, ive been eating pills for neally a decade and have been consuming molly for the same amount of time, you dont know me so dont tell me what i do and dont know. In 10 years ive NEVER been scammed with a pip pill, conclusion? I have good sources and carry a small air of respect, therefore ive never been ripped off on pills.

The fact that you are an oldtimer and still have shit sources tells me you dont know anyone that important, who themselves probably have terrible sources, and get ripped off a lot, proven by the amount of piperazine you have had passed off to you in your time.

Stop attacking others who have reliable sources and telling them they know nothing, its you that knows nothing thinking there is no mdma around just because you cant get it.

there IS mdma in australia, i eat it every week, you just cant get any sustanon, probably because the attitude you have here is how you act in real life as well and nobody wants to really help you out.

pull your head in a little sustanon mate, just take on board and accept different people in different locations have different availability.

p.s, blue and lavender fish this week ;) yummy
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1. I know people who have been eating pills for 20 years except they dont do it every weekend. Ive been eating them almost 10 years too. Im not judging u at all. Doesnt matter how long we all have been doing it. No one cares.

2. I havnt seen any reports from you on Pillreports except one. Consider yourself a lucky person if u havnt been piped yet. The day will come dont worry.

If theres anyone reading this thread and takes pills very regularly tell me if u havnt got a bunk or piped before. Just out of curiosity is your source the same during that 10 years? My sources are constantly changing every 6 months appx because 1.They get busted 2. They quit 3. There getting shit gear.


Ive always had very good contacts in EU. From the year 2004 things got very bad over there. U need to sift through 50 before ud get a decent bean.
Even the good sources here in AU who i personally knew that always had mdma ended up getting pips. Of course there is MDMA around. Just not in big amounts available for everyone. Just like steroids. Do u know that the 80-90% of them are fake? Wheres that 20 % then? Well the pro bodybuilders usually use it all up. My point is that if u have a close and good connection with that supplier u will always get it for that 80-90% they will always get the shit. Get me?
 
If your dealer doesn't test their gear with reagent testers and then do the taste test then they are not worth keeping in my personal opinion.

On a second note though their is still plenty of MDMA going around it simply comes down to who you know, I've noticed it seems that it comes in waves throughout the cities around Australia.

I will say though that the market is slowly dieing and pipes are taking over and I think the market will come to the point where only one out of every ten pills you buy contain MDMA. That will be a sad day for us all!
 
Sustanon said:
He got piped. Honestly im going to sounds rude from now on but anyone who buys and gets a pip pill deserves getting piped. Why buy pills for when u know that theres a 1 in 100 chance of getting an MDMA pill.
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bro thats a big call. a bs one at that
 
Sustanon said:
I was over exaggerating but u get the point. Yeah it will be like EU pretty soon if there isnt another maffia taking over the Grifith Maffia in Melbourne.
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yeh bro i get u.. but surely theres enough good shit floating around the EU. Isnt there??
 
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