Prohormones/Designer Steroids

That's what I assumed but I wanted to make sure considering there are differences in shit like 1D, 3D, etc..
 
The main prohormones that are doing the rounds and getting good rep:

Epistane (havoc, etc) : Good all round- mainly used for bulking. Mainly anabolic- little androgenic effects noticed. Liver/cholesterol damage average. Usually run 3-5 weeks at 20-40mg/ED.

Superdrol (M-drol, Genetic SD, etc): Major mass builder. Methylated version of Masteron. Very lean dry gains. Very androgenic. Horrific on liver/lipid values. Not run more than 3 weeks due to the damage it does.

Halodrol (H-Drol): Cutting steroid. Can be used to lean bulk. Average anabolic/androgenic values. Very easy on liver lipid values. Usually run 3-8 weeks.

Phera-Plex: Major mass builder. Wet gains. Horrific on liver/lipids. Not run for more than 3 weeks. I wouldn't use due to studies showing major heart enlargement.

If your going to buy epistane then look at some of the clones- same drug, much cheaper. Plus there's talk on some boards about CEL's product being underdosed....
 
thai-lan said:
diet diet diet , what do you need roids for??
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Yes, diet is the most important factor in the mass-building equation, but we are all looking for that "edge"...

Pleasure, happiness, fun, kill boredom, what do you need recreational drugs for?
 
dude you will never know where the edge is unless you get to the edge !! gain as much as possible with the diet and start roids when u cant gain nomore.. its %45 diet %30 training %15 rest %10 AAS
 
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thai-lan said:
dude you will never know where the edge is unless you get to the edge !! gain as much as possible with the diet and start roids when u cant gain nomore.. its %45 diet %30 training %25 rest %10 AAS
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That equation is absolute crazy talk....
 
yea , just tell me your stats then i iwll tell you if im still the crazy one ..

height
weight
bodyfat
years of lifting
cycles under your belt
 
5'11
186
15%
2
o cycles

Check my pic in my "first AAS cycle" thread to get an idea..
 
p-mo said:
The main prohormones that are doing the rounds and getting good rep:

Epistane (havoc, etc) : Good all round- mainly used for bulking. Mainly anabolic- little androgenic effects noticed. Liver/cholesterol damage average. Usually run 3-5 weeks at 20-40mg/ED.

Superdrol (M-drol, Genetic SD, etc): Major mass builder. Methylated version of Masteron. Very lean dry gains. Very androgenic. Horrific on liver/lipid values. Not run more than 3 weeks due to the damage it does.

Halodrol (H-Drol): Cutting steroid. Can be used to lean bulk. Average anabolic/androgenic values. Very easy on liver lipid values. Usually run 3-8 weeks.

Phera-Plex: Major mass builder. Wet gains. Horrific on liver/lipids. Not run for more than 3 weeks. I wouldn't use due to studies showing major heart enlargement.

If your going to buy epistane then look at some of the clones- same drug, much cheaper. Plus there's talk on some boards about CEL's product being underdosed....
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Good info :)
 
Well I'm at the end of week 2 with my Havoc cycle and I personally cannot believe that this shit is legal...

I took 30mgs the first week and took 40mgs the second...I'm going to bump it up to 50 this coming week and see how I feel...I will be doing a 6 week cycle with proper PCT..

So far all of my lifts have been personal records and I'm close to deadlifting 400lbs...no side effects and I'm losing fat without cardio....My appetite is insane but I've been eating more shitty food like burgers and shit form restaurants...all real food though...I'm up to 195lbs from 187 2 weeks ago and I'm not bloated...just full and lean...I should've kept a log but I'll continue to update....
 
I've read good things about epistane.

I had some decent results with AMS 1 androsterone and 4AD.
gonna run a Propadrol (pheraplex clone) and Hemadrol cycle in about 6 weeks I'll let you know how it goes.
 
The Real Fatman said:
I've read good things about epistane.

I had some decent results with AMS 1 androsterone and 4AD.
gonna run a Propadrol (pheraplex clone) and Hemadrol cycle in about 6 weeks I'll let you know how it goes.
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Yeah that's what you said...It's amazing how dry these gains are..and the decrease in bodyfat is pretty intense..

what was your pct?
 
PARooolller said:
Yeah that's what you said...It's amazing how dry these gains are..and the decrease in bodyfat is pretty intense..

what was your pct?
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novedex xt, would've run a serm, but I'm in Iraq and I don't know if any of the online vendors would be willing to ship out here. but my nuts grew back and I'm a horndog again so it worked. %)
 
Funny, I just started an epistane cycle (Havoc) too.

What are you using for PCT? You can't use OTC serms (like Novadex XT), you need to use real meds. I think i am going to use toremifene, or if my nuts start shrinking, clomid.

Epistane is much more powerful than the methy1-d you took before, and can shut you down if you're not careful. 50mg is quite a bit of epistane, it will shut you down very hard if you don't have the proper ancillaries (at 50mg of epistane you will need hCG). Also, 6 weeks is on the longer end. Be sure you are taking supplements to support your liver. Did you do blood work before hand? Keep in mind, epistane is methylated/17-alpha alkylated (generally not a good recipe for your liver).

I am probably not going to dose above 30mg, and not for longer than 4 weeks....
 
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