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🤝 Cultural 🤝 What Was Your Morning Fix v. Hit The Bottle & Go Right To The Rock

My morning fix was skydiving for the first time today. I can't even describe what it felt like. It was beyond bananas. I highly recommend everyone here give it a try if they ever get the chance. I'll definitely be doing it again.

Now it's 4:00p.m., and I think I might take some 4-MMC, lie on the couch, and listen to some music.

EDIT: Well, five hours later, I'm officially out of mephedrone. Grand total was about 0.5g. I'm still wired as fuck, so I'm probably gonna take some landing gear and pass out. After that, I'm 100% staying sober for a couple of weeks. That ought to do me some good.

I've been taking way too many drugs ever since I had to put my cat down. I just can't control myself with 4-MMC. I haven't noticed any real repercussions from it yet, but then again, I haven't done it that much. If I lived in Europe, where it's dirt cheap, it'd be game over, lmao. It has all the empathy of MDMA, fuck, it's great!

I'm really glad it's expensive in the States. I have an absolutely ridiculous stash for no real reason, but thankfully I have pretty good self-control. I just have a habit of buying in bulk: 14g+ of MDMA, 7g of MDA, 3.5g of 5-MAPB, 1g of 5-APB, 2g of 6-APB, plus downers and dissos. Straight-up Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas type of shit.

This stuff is too damn good! Back to reality tomorrow ;]
 
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crazyotter87 said:
My morning fix was skydiving for the first time today. I can't even describe what it felt like. It was beyond bananas. I highly recommend everyone here give it a try if they ever get the chance. I'll definitely be doing it again.

Now it's 4:00p.m., and I think I might take some 4-MMC, lie on the couch, and listen to some music.

EDIT: Well, five hours later, I'm officially out of mephedrone. Grand total was about 0.5g. I'm still wired as fuck, so I'm probably gonna take some landing gear and pass out. After that, I'm 100% staying sober for a couple of weeks. That ought to do me some good.

I've been taking way too many drugs ever since I had to put my cat down. I just can't control myself with 4-MMC. I haven't noticed any real repercussions from it yet, but then again, I haven't done it that much. If I lived in Europe, where it's dirt cheap, it'd be game over, lmao. It has all the empathy of MDMA, fuck, it's great!

I'm really glad it's expensive in the States. I have an absolutely ridiculous stash for no real reason, but thankfully I have pretty good self-control. I just have a habit of buying in bulk: 14g+ of MDMA, 7g of MDA, 3.5g of 5-MAPB, 1g of 5-APB, 2g of 6-APB, plus downers and dissos. Straight-up Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas type of shit.

This stuff is too damn good! Back to reality tomorrow ;]
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Skydiving seems fascinating, I will eventually get to it but I've never heard anyone speak negatively on it which is wild to think about. I'm curious to ask somebody else who's used a handful of different empathogens like that, which have you found the most useful, for what, and if any were useful, were they used solo or with other drugs? I've been on this hunch that 5-MAPB exhibits superior therapeutic capacities for normal people but there's a mescaline-ish psychedelia to MDA that I can't really see being comparable to 5-MAPB, apples-to-oranges type shit. I've also not experimented with administering 5-MAPB to anyone else though, so I've got only personal experiences with guiding any empathogens outside of MDMA, MDA and high potency kanna extracts. Of those three, I definitely find MDA to be the most useful, but it often benefits from a low dose of a sedative to go along with it. 5-MAPB feels like it already has that chillness sort of "baked in" if that makes sense.
BK38 said:
I agree with your general sentiment, but I feel like you're playing devil's advocate and you frankly, come across as a bit of a twat. I know it's not intentional and you could probably school me in Bio chem 101 (not to mention beyond). With all that said, you seem like you know your stuff...now compare your knowledge to an average meth user. Are they titrating doses? Are they taking Dex vs. Meth into account? NO. The answer is NO my friend. Meth is always abused generally speaking, to think that isn't the case is just....dumb. You're too smart to know I'm not speaking BS.
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I'm sorry it came off as dickish, I'm genuinely just trying to defend the fact that a ton of people in the community I grew up in use meth the exact way I described, and it's exceptionally non-problematic, it's essentially impossible to distinguish it from Vyvanse when we would blindtrial folks with gel caps. The average meth user I know isn't seeking hedonistic rushes, they're too poor to afford their Concerta/Adderall/Vyvanse/Etc and turn to the streets to buy usually a single gram at the start of every month, often diluting it with what to me is the "old school" method of oral meth use. Drink a 2 liter down to the label, and they always claimed it had about 30 shotglasses of liquid left in it. Is that even remotely accurate or consistent? Idrk but it seemed close enough, these people always dissolved the gram in the remaining soda, and would bang a shot of it every morning for the next month, typically having a shot or two leftover at the end of the month.

I also don't know to what degree I consider isomerism of meth on the street to be something that people really detect, it might be? I doubt any self-respecting chemists would release isomerically impure meth given how severely it impacts quality and how easily it can be properly isomerized. Market competition rn is fucking absurd anyways, cartel ice is absolutely unbelievable as far as quality goes imo, I can read text on paper through the crystals with how clear they are.

Saying meth is "always abused generally speaking" is goofy shit through my eyes, but I've also seen far more common use of it in pressed addies and low oral doses as a functional stimulant, than I have ever seen the reckless hedonistic abuses of the molecule. Rushes are best chased through crack, according to most stim users I've asked, idk I also prefer oral cocaine relative to other RoAs. Off the top of my head I could name 6 people I am quite close to who have used oral meth for a period of their life, almost always later transitioning to lisdexamphetamine or XR formulations of amphetamine. One person just dropped stimulants altogether, and the other person was offered a Desoxyn script but turned it down. The fact that you also imply I'm playing devil's advocate over some nonsense about meth RoAs is wild to me, but if your only experiences involving methamphetamine revolve around hedonistic overuse then I can see why this would seem weird. Many people I don't know closely who I've tutored in South Florida, as well as tradesmen who I grew up with in my hometown on the opposite side of the country, all also use oral methamphetamine in reasonable doses. My hunch on the matter is that it's likely unwise to touch any amphetamine if you're prone to chasing rushes of hedonism, but if you're not prone to that then it's a pretty useful tool imo.
 
Esperighanto said:
Skydiving seems fascinating, I will eventually get to it but I've never heard anyone speak negatively on it which is wild to think about. I'm curious to ask somebody else who's used a handful of different empathogens like that, which have you found the most useful, for what, and if any were useful, were they used solo or with other drugs? I've been on this hunch that 5-MAPB exhibits superior therapeutic capacities for normal people but there's a mescaline-ish psychedelia to MDA that I can't really see being comparable to 5-MAPB, apples-to-oranges type shit. I've also not experimented with administering 5-MAPB to anyone else though, so I've got only personal experiences with guiding any empathogens outside of MDMA, MDA and high potency kanna extracts. Of those three, I definitely find MDA to be the most useful, but it often benefits from a low dose of a sedative to go along with it. 5-MAPB feels like it already has that chillness sort of "baked in" if that makes sense.
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It was truly surreal. Once I got into the plane, there was no going back. I highly recommend you do it. I know I'll definitely be doing it again.

The most useful? Oh man, I've only done MDMA, MDA, and 5-MAPB. I haven't tried 5-APB yet, but I'm leaning toward making that my next roll. From what I've read, it sounds like a longer-lasting and more intense version of MDA, but please correct me if I'm wrong.

I also haven't tried 6-APB yet. I was only able to find some a couple of weeks ago, and I sent it off for testing, so I'm waiting on the purity results. I suspect I'll need to take 200mg or more. The funny thing is I was actually planning to ask you how to dose it based on the lab results once I get them back.

As for the empathogens I've tried, I've almost always taken them alone in my apartment. Well, except for one time when I took 100mg of MDA at a Phish concert a few years ago. That's the only time I've done one in public. They're easily my favorite class of drugs. I mainly enjoy benzos, but there's just not much to them compared to empathogens. They're so versatile. I can lie on the couch listening to music, chat with friends online, talk to people on the phone, dance at a concert (I was fucking moving at Phish the whole time!), reflect on my life, dance around my apartment like an idiot, or just enjoy the experience in whatever way feels right.

Out of the three, MDA has been by far the most beneficial. MDMA is wayyyyyyy too hedonistic. I mean, MDA definitely has that side too, but it still leaves room for introspection. To me, 5-MAPB just felt like a more sedating version of MDMA that lasted quite a bit longer. As far as therapeutic value goes, I think 5-MAPB and MDMA would accomplish pretty much the same thing.

With MDA, there are moments where the roll completely takes over, then other moments where the psychedelic aspect comes forward instead. I can definitely see why it has mostly been phased out and why so many people don't even know what it is anymore. I'm mostly talking about the average person who has rolled before and only knew "molly" as MDMA. MDA can be a lot more difficult, and I don't think it would appeal to the audience MDMA is generally marketed toward.

I've mostly used everything on its own, aside from my daily Klonopin, clonidine for sleep, and the occasional non-prescription benzo on the comedown. I've only done 5-MAPB twice so far. I candy flipped once with MDMA, but honestly it felt like too much of a drag. I also smoked DMT at the peak, sort of nexus flipped by taking 5 to 10 mg of 2C-B toward the tail end to extend things a bit, and used ketamine in small doses on the comedown. It didn't live up to what I expected. I've also used nitrous, but I honestly find it too distracting, if that makes sense. If I had a 2,000 g tank sitting next to me, I'd probably spend most of the peak doing nitrous instead, and that feels like a waste considering I usually wait at least a month between rolls. Oh, and I've also combined MDMA with MDA and vice-versa...

Anyway, I really wish I had someone to roll with. It would be beyond magical to share the experience with my best friend or even a close female friend. I'm leaning toward just waiting until the timing is right instead of forcing it.

I honestly find all of them beneficial. They're penicillin for the soul to me. They remind me that genuine happiness really is possible and that I can be that sociable without them, even if it's rare. They all hold a special place in my heart. They've genuinely been the most effective antidepressants I've ever experienced. Or I just love them too much. Either way, I think a lot of it comes down to what you make of the experience.

Sorry for the wall of text. I'm still sort of geeked from the 4-MMC and just waiting for my clonidine to kick in.
 
Esperighanto said:
I'm sorry it came off as dickish, I'm genuinely just trying to defend the fact that a ton of people in the community I grew up in use meth the exact way I described, and it's exceptionally non-problematic, it's essentially impossible to distinguish it from Vyvanse when we would blindtrial folks with gel caps. The average meth user I know isn't seeking hedonistic rushes, they're too poor to afford their Concerta/Adderall/Vyvanse/Etc and turn to the streets to buy usually a single gram at the start of every month, often diluting it with what to me is the "old school" method of oral meth use. Drink a 2 liter down to the label, and they always claimed it had about 30 shotglasses of liquid left in it. Is that even remotely accurate or consistent? Idrk but it seemed close enough, these people always dissolved the gram in the remaining soda, and would bang a shot of it every morning for the next month, typically having a shot or two leftover at the end of the month.

I also don't know to what degree I consider isomerism of meth on the street to be something that people really detect, it might be? I doubt any self-respecting chemists would release isomerically impure meth given how severely it impacts quality and how easily it can be properly isomerized. Market competition rn is fucking absurd anyways, cartel ice is absolutely unbelievable as far as quality goes imo, I can read text on paper through the crystals with how clear they are.

Saying meth is "always abused generally speaking" is goofy shit through my eyes, but I've also seen far more common use of it in pressed addies and low oral doses as a functional stimulant, than I have ever seen the reckless hedonistic abuses of the molecule. Rushes are best chased through crack, according to most stim users I've asked, idk I also prefer oral cocaine relative to other RoAs. Off the top of my head I could name 6 people I am quite close to who have used oral meth for a period of their life, almost always later transitioning to lisdexamphetamine or XR formulations of amphetamine. One person just dropped stimulants altogether, and the other person was offered a Desoxyn script but turned it down. The fact that you also imply I'm playing devil's advocate over some nonsense about meth RoAs is wild to me, but if your only experiences involving methamphetamine revolve around hedonistic overuse then I can see why this would seem weird. Many people I don't know closely who I've tutored in South Florida, as well as tradesmen who I grew up with in my hometown on the opposite side of the country, all also use oral methamphetamine in reasonable doses. My hunch on the matter is that it's likely unwise to touch any amphetamine if you're prone to chasing rushes of hedonism, but if you're not prone to that then it's a pretty useful tool imo.
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I completely agree with your mindset regarding methamphetamine. I actually used it responsibly in college as a VERY cheap replacement for Adderall while studying. I only took it orally and rarely exceeded 2.5-5mg. I'm extremely sensitive to stimulants, so my goal was simply to improve focus and make boring tasks more engaging. I never wanted subpar euphoria to get in the way.

I think it has far more stigma attached to it than it deserves. My impression is that the majority of users aren't abusing it to the extreme that people often assume. The route of administration also makes a huge difference. I snorted it once just to see what all the "hype" was about, and, as I expected, it wasn't there. If someone is smoking it, of course it's going to be much more hedonistic than a smooth oral come-up & ride.
 
Esperighanto said:
I'm sorry it came off as dickish, I'm genuinely just trying to defend the fact that a ton of people in the community I grew up in use meth the exact way I described, and it's exceptionally non-problematic, it's essentially impossible to distinguish it from Vyvanse when we would blindtrial folks with gel caps. The average meth user I know isn't seeking hedonistic rushes, they're too poor to afford their Concerta/Adderall/Vyvanse/Etc and turn to the streets to buy usually a single gram at the start of every month, often diluting it with what to me is the "old school" method of oral meth use. Drink a 2 liter down to the label, and they always claimed it had about 30 shotglasses of liquid left in it. Is that even remotely accurate or consistent? Idrk but it seemed close enough, these people always dissolved the gram in the remaining soda, and would bang a shot of it every morning for the next month, typically having a shot or two leftover at the end of the month.

I also don't know to what degree I consider isomerism of meth on the street to be something that people really detect, it might be? I doubt any self-respecting chemists would release isomerically impure meth given how severely it impacts quality and how easily it can be properly isomerized. Market competition rn is fucking absurd anyways, cartel ice is absolutely unbelievable as far as quality goes imo, I can read text on paper through the crystals with how clear they are.

Saying meth is "always abused generally speaking" is goofy shit through my eyes, but I've also seen far more common use of it in pressed addies and low oral doses as a functional stimulant, than I have ever seen the reckless hedonistic abuses of the molecule. Rushes are best chased through crack, according to most stim users I've asked, idk I also prefer oral cocaine relative to other RoAs. Off the top of my head I could name 6 people I am quite close to who have used oral meth for a period of their life, almost always later transitioning to lisdexamphetamine or XR formulations of amphetamine. One person just dropped stimulants altogether, and the other person was offered a Desoxyn script but turned it down. The fact that you also imply I'm playing devil's advocate over some nonsense about meth RoAs is wild to me, but if your only experiences involving methamphetamine revolve around hedonistic overuse then I can see why this would seem weird. Many people I don't know closely who I've tutored in South Florida, as well as tradesmen who I grew up with in my hometown on the opposite side of the country, all also use oral methamphetamine in reasonable doses. My hunch on the matter is that it's likely unwise to touch any amphetamine if you're prone to chasing rushes of hedonism, but if you're not prone to that then it's a pretty useful tool imo.
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I think we have led very different lives and that's ok, in my experience, those that I know that use methamphetamine (regardless of ROA) almost always end up abusing it (many of them became addicted too - I include myself in that number - 12 years clean now though). We can certainly have different perspectives on methamphetamine use. It may have been a bit "goofy" of me to speak in massive generalizations and let me be clear, I did not and am not calling you a twat, it just gave me that sense. I know that was not your intention and perhaps I should have chosen my words more carefully.

I think what you said struck a nerve with me as someone who has had massive negative reprecussions as a result of methamphetamine use (which spiralled into abuse). I have seen too many good people taken down by the drug. Perhaps I need to examine my own personal bias.

With that said, at least anecdotally, I have met maybe a small handful of people that consume meth orally in the manner that you describe (with approximated, tirtrated doses consumed in a relatively responsible way). Again, this may simply come down to the people we know, geography, local markets, drug culture etc. I definitely agree that pressed addies etc are a thing and that a lot of people use them in lieu of prescribed amphetamines due to cost, availability etc.

"The average meth user I know isn't seeking hedonistic rushes" - I think this statement is what I take issue with most in terms of your beliefs regading methamphetamine. The average meth user I know absolutely uses the molecule for hedonistic rushes.

I apologize for coming at you a little sideways. On reflection, I think I was being a bit of a twat; you did nothing to derserve any kind of ire. Thank you for taking the time to write about your perspective; you are obviously highly intelligent and I genuinely appreciate your contributions to BL.
 
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BK38 said:
The average meth user I know isn't seeking hedonistic rushes" - I think this statement is what I take issue with most in terms of your beliefs regading methamphetamine. The average meth user I know absolutely uses the molecule for hedonistic rushes.
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I agree. Even though I don't know a shitload of users, as per those I know, they either abuse(d) it - to the point of more or less massive destruction - or they use(d) it very very rarely. It's one of the rather more than less problematic drugs imo, where you can see huge problems coming up very very fast. I mean after all you can use most opioids but fent in a reasonable way, if you don't abuse them . Some will probably argue that even goes for fent. Still then I don't think anyone would argue that those using them recreationally (that word itself irritates me every time) regularly end up with a ton of issues. Also frankly speaking I don't see any medical reason for using meth. At least scoring better at uni or something - if that truly works which I doubt in most cases - is not one I'd count.

Sorry for straying off topic
There's no fix for me today, even gave up vaping nicotine for now cause it's damn painful thanks to a stupid heavy cold I caught in the mid of this heat wave 😒
 
Today I had...

A silly amount of Muang Dang Kratom (leaf) - approximately 30g
6mg Diazepam (tapering down from a week of 10mg a day - had a traumatic experience)
300mg Pregabalin (tapering down from a week of 400-600mg Pregabalin a day)
Half a spliff of some pretty sub-par Hashish, but it did help with my insomnia

I'm contemplating some Codeine, maybe like 120mg (240mg if I get the "fuck its"). I actually think I might have broken my finger a few days ago and not really noticed until now so...that's fun. Have had a lot of physical problems of late unfortunately, including two shoulder dislocations in two weeks. Dental problems too (have a bad cavity and a third of a tooth literally disintegrated when I was brushing my teeth this AM)...

I'm now realizing I am slowly morphing into that old guy who bitches about all his health problems all the time. I'm only in my mid 30s and I guess I'm starting to feel the consequences of treating my body like an amusement park...
 
100mg SR-17018
10mg Diazepam
2mg Xanax
100mg Lamictal
600mg Gabapentin

Trying to kick Oxy… I wouldn’t be if my supplier didn’t ghost me due to personal problems. But they did and now I’m forced to CT and not taper. Any suggestions? Been taking the occasional 7-oh but doesn’t seem to feel right
 
pnillyg said:
100mg SR-17018
10mg Diazepam
2mg Xanax
100mg Lamictal
600mg Gabapentin

Trying to kick Oxy… I wouldn’t be if my supplier didn’t ghost me due to personal problems. But they did and now I’m forced to CT and not taper. Any suggestions? Been taking the occasional 7-oh but doesn’t seem to feel right
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Trying to kick Oxy is definitely a pain in the ass, especially CT. May ask how big your habit was? I've kicked oxy before but I tapered, so a bit of different scenario.

Can you acquire morphine or perhaps some codeine? It will help just... not a whole lot because oxy is so strong. I've never tried 7-OH, but have been using Kratom for years and that seems to help me with pain, mood and just about any opiate/opioid withdrawal. I have heard that the entourage effect of leaf Kratom can actually be better than the concentrated 7-oh (the vendor and quality is obviously very important too).

If you're really, really struggling, perhaps look into a methadone program if available in your region. Methadone itself can be a monster in and of itself, but can be useful if you just use it to get through acute WDs. When I quit heroin I was given a script of 140mg Methadone and 20mg Diazepam a day. I then asked to taper as rapidly as possible over a period of 2 months. It was not easy at all, but I'm 14 years clean from heroin now and didn't end up with the notorious "methadone handcuffs."

As a side note, what are the effects of SR-17018? It's sounds like an interesting substance.

I know you're not really trying to quit, but at least you might get an involuntary tolerance break? (trying to find a silver lining here)

Finally, best of luck to you!
 
BK38 said:
I'm contemplating some Codeine
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Some codeine on top of Kratom tend to make me nod. 30g in one go ? sounds like a whole lot
BK38 said:
'm 14 years clean from heroin now and didn't end up with the notorious "methadone handcuffs."
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Amazing man, most of people stay on methadone for life, congratulations on staying clean like that, sometimes I feel like I need to do this methadone thing too.

I do agree about the meth too, I never met anyone having a responsible use of it, maybe at the start but it always end up out of control, not necessarily compulsive redosing but simply days of not sleeping and eating lead to so much problems.. much more that opiate addiction, I think saying the opposite is a bit disconnected from the reality. There are tons of people experiencing psychosis/paranoia and having violent outbursts just because of meth. You don't need a lot and it's quite cheap which automatically lead to problems. Even scripted amphetamines lead to so much problem in long term depression, mood swings, neuroplasticity etc. You gonna need benzos or anti depressants to counteract the effects making this drug problematic . Of course using once in a while for performance work etc is okay but I don't believe in a long term daily use of it, in small doses, seems impossible for me.

In my experience with eurospeed, I knew few people doing it for more than 6 months, they all got chronic psychosis, hallucinations, severe mood swings, extreme weightloss. Not to mention the ones that went to psych ward, the fights etc. I knew one guy that kept doing speed, he looked severely damaged his mind was totally broken and most of them switched to cocaine with a lot of alcohol. I've seen people shitting blood because of no eating no sleeping and heavy alcohol consumption. I lost friends from it, one had a cardiac arrest at 30 because of stim abuse and died. Another took the car on speed and alcohol, crashed and died. I got assaulted by someone on speed binge, I did mad shit while on speed too. I've had car crashes because of the driver overconfident on speed. That's just with speed imagine with meth. I myself used a lot and there is not much drugs except crack that will damage your body and your mind that much and that fast. I think the whole thing that saying that amphetamines are not that bad is propaganda from big pharma to keep selling them and giving them XR adderalls to kids for "ADHD" to make sure after few years they will need it to be happy or functional and they will be hooked on other depressants to mitigate the side effects. They made it illegal in most countries for a reason. They are creating more problems than solutions.


OT:
200mg Tram
10mg Diaz
Strong coffee
about to smoke a joint
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
civilized - nice

we did that kinda thing in uk many moons ago too, pre-hysteria
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and in berlin at A.I.D Spandau as a example u need to come the first 6month 3 times a day!! i was playing with the thoughts that i switch from my polamidon (Levomethadon) 60mg i get daily as pills from hexal poladicct. 1 has 30 mg and i get 28 pills for 2 weeks take home no more beikonsum but thaats why i didnt change to Heroin or Dyclo....

what u get are you in a Substitution programm?
 
hideout said:
and in berlin at A.I.D Spandau as a example u need to come the first 6month 3 times a day!! i was playing with the thoughts that i switch from my polamidon (Levomethadon) 60mg i get daily as pills from hexal poladicct. 1 has 30 mg and i get 28 pills for 2 weeks take home no more beikonsum but thaats why i didnt change to Heroin or Dyclo....

what u get are you in a Substitution programm?
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You dont necessarily have to come in 3 times a day. I've been coming in only 1-2 times a day since the beginning. Some people only go in on 2-3 days per week to do a shot.
 
i drank some whiskey out of a fifth on the streetcar then i almost dated this homeless man who saw me doing it, but i stopped just in time and just let him buy me a frozen yogurt. mango with kiwi
 
Gridlink said:
Good morning all!

Today is going to be a productive day so I am on:

200 mg methadone
1200 mg gabapentin
50 mg methamphetamine

I hope everyone is doing well, and now it's time to start carpe-ing some motherfuckin diem!
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Dang 200mg of methadone., I was on 100 really glad I don't have to answer to the done clock anymore. I remember getting so freakin anxious if anythin came up that might effect me getting my dose. What kind of methadone do u get, pills, dissolveable tabs or the gross cough syrup tasting stuff?
 
Heroinimus Bosch said:
You dont necessarily have to come in 3 times a day. I've been coming in only 1-2 times a day since the beginning. Some people only go in on 2-3 days per week to do a shot.
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Oh wow, thanks for the update via BlueLight, nice . Too bad there’s no diamorphine treatment available in Stuttgart. But like I said, i get crazy 2 weeks take home because finally i am clean but only because i left berlin again after 16 years charlottenburg and worked mostly at siemens in siemensstadt spandau as it security specialist I’ll be able to get a. es job here too.

take care
 
hideout said:
Oh wow, thanks for the update via BlueLight, nice . Too bad there’s no diamorphine treatment available in Stuttgart. But like I said, i get crazy 2 weeks take home because finally i am clean but only because i left berlin again after 16 years charlottenburg and worked mostly at siemens in siemensstadt spandau as it security specialist I’ll be able to get a. es job here too.

take care
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Actually there is a Diamorphine clinic in Stuttgart.I just recently visited family down there and my doc sent me to this clinic in Stuttgart. Its close to the main station. I don't know if I'm allowed to post a link to their Website or if that's sourcing but you can just find it via Google.
 
Heroinimus Bosch said:
Actually there is a Diamorphine clinic in Stuttgart.I just recently visited family down there and my doc sent me to this clinic in Stuttgart. Its close to the main station. I don't know if I'm allowed to post a link to their Website or if that's sourcing but you can just find it via Google.
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oh wow thanks a ton will have a google search or i message you? my name is ferdinand / hideout … really weird how small the world is i even though wow i am so junkie nerdy that i am the only one from germany or at least south germany here but nerver the less thanks again to all of you guys and girls and specials now in this thread for the quick help and feedback what a nice community here cool better then eve rave

liebe grüße ferdinand
 
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