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Can you shoot 7-hydroxymitragynine?

I would say if you have no tolerance to "de facto" opioids 7-OH is your jam and it will save you a lot of money. Oxycodone and 7-OH are very different feelings.

I have been on Mallinckrot Oxycodone HCl 30mg going on 16 years and they still work and do their job. 7-OH stopped working after a few months.
I have used both extensively, and recently, as well as both in combination with etizolam, phenazolam, carisoprodol, and carisoprodol + etizolam, and all of those combinations were augmented in similar ways from how the original drug felt, if that makes sense.

People seem to experience subjective variation in how they feel 7-OH way more than they do with oxycodone though.
 
Same but with plain leaf. It's just dreaded tolerance. I can't even get good buzz dosing 3 times a week.
That’s because mytraginine is a prodrug. It’s literally the exact same thing as 7oh. MIT is to 7oh as codeine is to morphine.

Your both experiencing the same thing because you’re both using the same drug.

As for the alkaloid content of kratom leaf, I don’t see anyone isolating those other alkaloids for their pleasant effects. Nobody likes the wobbles.
 
Tolerance is a bitch with all opioids. You won't avoid this problem with any of them (trust me I've done them all aside from some of this new RC stuff).

After getting a taste of proper oxymorphone and other strong/clean pharma opioids back in the day everything feels like candy now. Even if I stay off for a long long time. I haven't nodded in years at this point and it isn't because of a lack of trying.
 
Tolerance is a bitch with all opioids. You won't avoid this problem with any of them (trust me I've done them all aside from some of this new RC stuff).

After getting a taste of proper oxymorphone and other strong/clean pharma opioids back in the day everything feels like candy now. Even if I stay off for a long long time. I haven't nodded in years at this point and it isn't because of a lack of trying.
Interesting, from 13-21 I was no stranger to being prescribed monstrous (often hospice-care) level amounts of opioids, and nowadays I only find mitragyna alkaloids, tianeptine and to a lesser degree tapentadol/tramadol useful as opiates are such a side effect factory for me.
 
Interesting, from 13-21 I was no stranger to being prescribed monstrous (often hospice-care) level amounts of opioids, and nowadays I only find mitragyna alkaloids, tianeptine and to a lesser degree tapentadol/tramadol useful as opiates are such a side effect factory for me.
My issue is I love morphine. But any time I've attempted to nod again on morphine I've not had access to a lot at one time and my usual dose from back in the day isn't nearly as strong. I haven't nodded on morphine since 2013 sometime. I've only attempted to nod again twice. Once in 2017 off 60mg and again in 2021 off 60mg followed by 20mg in a second shot. Rectal administration (scared of needles).

Back in the day 60mg of morphine rectal would get me to nodville. If I limited it to once a week. Now I can't get hardly anywhere with it. I itch a bit and my pupils constrict a little. But nothing close to a nod.

I desire a nod so badly. I wish I had access to pharma grade opioids like I did back in the 2000s-2010s again. I'm sure some good old oxymorphone nasally could get me back there. But I'd really prefer to do it with morphine. Since it's the only one that provided morphine dreams every time (oxycodone got me there once, oxymorphone maybe twice).

My entire reason for doing opioids back in the day was to mask my horrible pain during the day then get a morphine dream at night. I love morphine dreams. They're better than K/M-holes or any psychedelic.

The few nods I've gotten on kratom/all these extracts/chemicals was never as pleasant as nod from proper opioids. They're also very very rare.
 
Same but with plain leaf. It's just dreaded tolerance. I can't even get good buzz dosing 3 times a week.
Pain management patients have the same issue. Even with Roxi 210mg and Methadone 40mg.

What helps is Clonidine, Valium, Vistaril PAM, Cyclobenzaprine added to that.

My Clonidine 0.9-1.2mg PO would have 90% of this forum asleep for 16-24hrs and so light headed without assistance would fall down when they get out of bed. That dosage of Clonidine HCl (Duraclon) IV at once would kill me.

I desire a nod so badly
I got kicked out of the "nod club" and take about 5qty B-52 daily with 435mme. My anesthesiologist interviews as were going down my daily meds I always get the Ol' Side Eye. Then they say, "We are going to have to do something different here." I had the coolest one recently that stabilized me on all my meds IV for 5 minutes to get real relaxed and trusted the Propofol like it stole money from him. Oh God, I didn't even count 0.5 seconds. He came in when I woke up, gave me a high-five, and said you don't need anymore pain meds for the rest of day. My man !!! I have wanted a colonoscopy everyday for the past 4 years.
 
Hello lords 👋 I am new to the site not to the lifestyle, being 30y/o man growing up with opana 40s it was clear I was hooked, years of abuse and then stability (Subs 8mg to now 2mg) I have found 7oh and found it able to get me off the subs I used presse'd recently and a a brand that had 7oh just across the whole package need references please thank you all.
 
Hello lords 👋 I am new to the site not to the lifestyle, being 30y/o man growing up with opana 40s it was clear I was hooked, years of abuse and then stability (Subs 8mg to now 2mg) I have found 7oh and found it able to get me off the subs I used presse'd recently and a a brand that had 7oh just across the whole package need references please thank you all.
References as in you're looking for information on 7-OH? Or are you looking for more personal accounts? Just asking so I know what information to throw at you. Mitragyna alkaloids are exceptionally safe and I'm glad you've found your way from the more dangerous world of opiates (as in, derived from the opium poppy alkaloids) to the safer work of Mitragyna alkaloids (kratom alkaloids and their derivatives).
 
References as in you're looking for information on 7-OH? Or are you looking for more personal accounts? Just asking so I know what information to throw at you. Mitragyna alkaloids are exceptionally safe and I'm glad you've found your way from the more dangerous world of opiates (as in, derived from the opium poppy alkaloids) to the safer work of Mitragyna alkaloids (kratom alkaloids and their derivatives).
Thank you so much these week been hell but I finally feel good and got some opia 20mg tablets Id like to get a real good brand and know more about it I'm just buying whatever atm just the stuff I see at the smoke shops in NYC
 
Thank you so much these week been hell but I finally feel good and got some opia 20mg tablets Id like to get a real good brand and know more about it I'm just buying whatever atm just the stuff I see at the smoke shops in NYC
I would absolutely recommend getting it as crystal, there are a variety of subreddits pertaining to 7-OH-Mitragynine which can help you find sources. It's extremely cost-effective and hits in a harder, faster, cleaner fashion in my opinion. We can't share sources here on BL, but my advice would definitely be to get a cheap scale from a smokeshop and then order some crystal, or "powder" 7-OH as people tend to call it.
 
I would absolutely recommend getting it as crystal, there are a variety of subreddits pertaining to 7-OH-Mitragynine which can help you find sources. It's extremely cost-effective and hits in a harder, faster, cleaner fashion in my opinion. We can't share sources here on BL, but my advice would definitely be to get a cheap scale from a smokeshop and then order some crystal, or "powder" 7-OH as people tend to call it.
See this is exactly what I need to hear I don't know anything even the "rules" of this site so I appreciate it 100% I'll make my way with your phenomenal suggestion and let you know how it goes
 
I was wondering if any of y'all have tried to shoot a 7-oh pill? I'm just curious since in my opinion it is the best opioid there is besides fentanyl that Ive tried and that's anything from codeine,methadone morphine, meperidine etc... to fentanyl to heroin.
I don't know about 7-OH but I do know you should NEVER EVER Inject Tianeptine as I've seen photos and videos of people with rotting limbs because they decided to inject that shit into their veins.
 
Well, you can salt it but here citric won't work and messing with hydrochloric acid is a bad plan unless you understand what you are doing. I susepct even salts are not particularly water-soluble.

Lots of things can be done - many just once.
 
First, I would definitely not even try IVing 7-OH. That could is probably dangerous as hell. And, in the office chance that it does work, you're going to be on one hell of an addiction ride with that crap. It's expensive, the tolerance buildup is really fast, and the withdrawals would probably make hell seem like Disney world...

On an unrelated note, I see so many people who buy 7-OH from vape shops and gas stations. What a rip off. You're probably paying 2x-4x what you'd pay online for the same thing. (I hope talking about this isn't against the rules, I won't get into specific sites or brands or anything). I've seen vape shops charging $10-$15 per pill for 50mg pills. That's insane. Some sites have 20 packs of 80mg pills for $80-$100 (still not cheap, but not the robbery those vape shops try to pull). Plus, you can get 90%+ pure 7-OH powder, but as others have pointed out it doesn't dissolve in water.

I'm 7 weeks clean from 7-OH myself. I got on Suboxone for it, and as some have said, the subs oddly didn't really work until about a week in. They took away about 60% of the withdrawals, but the anxiety was still there for about a week. I'm on 16mg of Suboxone too (8mg every 12 hours since I work 3rd shift, I need that extra strip to get me through the night).

Anyways, sorry to ramble. God bless.
 
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