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Can you shoot 7-hydroxymitragynine?

notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Just DONT. Could a mad chemist figure out a way -- probably. would it be worth it, obviously not or they would have!
You can Smoke 7-OH which means you can get a rush without shooting it -- not sure on the BA but be careful!!

7OH and Fentanyl hardly count as there extreme lack of euphoria.. (Pain I can't speak on -- well much I'm almost over the hill -- they seem to work for a elderly person I know who's Dr wont write -- only uses em for a day or two tops and low dosages)

That second list was the sweet one forsure.

I am actually not sure if I am agreeing or disagreeing with you but either way I recognize you are treating pain which requires a different strategic approach
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You can smoke 7oh?
 
PenguinWithNapalm said:
You can smoke 7oh?
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ive dabbed a 60%+ extract and it definitely worked. tasted god awful but it worked

daddyfatknuckles, 2023-11-24, reddit

vaping extracts, even at a low temperature and high purity, is pretty foul and not worth it imo

daddyfatknuckles, 2024-03-18, reddit

I have a concentrate vape that I used for leaf and it worked ok I guess, but tasted really nasty. Always vaped kratom oil, in either cartridges or nicotine vapes and that was really good. Very mild taste and nice effects. The oil in the concentrate vape was always super strong.

We used to make 2 different types of kratom oil, one that was water soluble and could be vaped, and one that we used in making all kinds of snacks. Brownies, peanut butter cups, pizza, kratom infused sauces, gummies etc. No plant matter and it tasted way better than powder.

in-fusd, 2023-08-21, re: Kratom Vapes
 
red22 said:
ive dabbed a 60%+ extract and it definitely worked. tasted god awful but it worked

daddyfatknuckles, 2023-11-24, reddit

vaping extracts, even at a low temperature and high purity, is pretty foul and not worth it imo

daddyfatknuckles, 2024-03-18, reddit

I have a concentrate vape that I used for leaf and it worked ok I guess, but tasted really nasty. Always vaped kratom oil, in either cartridges or nicotine vapes and that was really good. Very mild taste and nice effects. The oil in the concentrate vape was always super strong.

We used to make 2 different types of kratom oil, one that was water soluble and could be vaped, and one that we used in making all kinds of snacks. Brownies, peanut butter cups, pizza, kratom infused sauces, gummies etc. No plant matter and it tasted way better than powder.

in-fusd, 2023-08-21, re: Kratom Vapes
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Oh wow I had no idea. I wonder if smoking 7oh on foil like heroin is a viable option. I have a big opioid tolerance but I wonder what a kratom oil vape would feel like with no tolerance.

I see ads for “7oh vapes” but I’m dubious about that
 
PenguinWithNapalm said:
You can smoke 7oh?
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Yes definitely -- on foil will work but be a little wasteful. Well I suck at 'chasing the dragon' -- haha have a chaser I guess it tastes bad -- double chase!

I am going to recommend a nectar collector but basically chase the dragon you got it. Direct flame smoking wont work I dont think... I imagine 7 oh joints would be rollin around at parties (wait i dont go to parties) if it did.... I woulda heard somethin from someone lol
 
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TheLightBringer said:
I remember this one youtube video of a woman being injected IV with THC + CBD and then THC by itself at two separate times and saying the THC + CBD combo gave her euphoria and no paranoia while THC solo was anxiogenic and paranoia inducing.

Tbh her reaction to IV THC + CBD made it look absolutely wonderful as that buttery/milky THC dissolved fat-solution made itself into her veins….
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Dont tempt me lol
 
notsmokeymcpot42088 said:
Yes definitely -- on foil will work but be a little wasteful. Well I suck at 'chasing the dragon' -- haha have a chaser I guess it tastes bad -- double chase!

I am going to recommend a nectar collector but basically chase the dragon you got it. Direct flame smoking wont work I dont think... I imagine 7 oh joints would be rollin around at parties (wait i dont go to parties) if it did.... I woulda heard somethin from someone lol
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Hmm. I wonder if you can throw a pill on there like an m30. Probably only powder
 
kothen66 said:
You peaked my curiosity, so I’m one of those who asked to find out myself. I took a small piece of a 30 mg chewable 7 oh tab (~4mg-5mg). Just to keep it as “safe” as possible. Put it in a spoon with water and a bit of lemon juice. Put my lighter under it, mixed, and cotton filtered 30 units of solution. Slammed it home and instantly that wave came over.

Shorter high, of course, than sublingual ROA. But what a rush.

Never planning on doing it again because I liked it too much. And I don’t need to go down that road again.

IMO, if you like 7 oh be thoughtful and careful.

BTW, I doing small amounts overall as I’m just over a year H free.
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I’m amazed that worked. Whatever type of 7-OH that manufacturer is using must be soluble in water. People who have the raw powder form claim it not to be soluble in water… Maybe the heat helped it along. Or maybe it degraded it? Well never know, because you shouldn’t do that again!
 
Helpmeescapethis said:
I’m amazed that worked. Whatever type of 7-OH that manufacturer is using must be soluble in water. People who have the raw powder form claim it not to be soluble in water… Maybe the heat helped it along. Or maybe it degraded it? Well never know, because you shouldn’t do that again!
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It’s not water soluble and it never will be. The poster above was successful because they turned the water into an acidic solution by changing the ph of the water using lemon juice containing citric acid. So they didn’t use water. They used a citric acid solution in a water base. The drug was soluble because of the change in ph not a change in the molecular properties of 7oh by any manufacturer.
 
^Was gunna say that but didnt wanna niitpick or really teach ppl how to bang 7 oh lol --- I have been consistently on the "This is a stupid idea" side -- needing citric only makes it worse
 
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helpingout said:
It’s not water soluble and it never will be. The poster above was successful because they turned the water into an acidic solution by changing the ph of the water using lemon juice containing citric acid. So they didn’t use water. They used a citric acid solution in a water base. The drug was soluble because of the change in ph not a change in the molecular properties of 7oh by any manufacturer.
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ok so just to be clear i can shoot 7oh like crack? Lemon juice solution and I’m good to go? I will be ordering powder from a vendor as close to pure as I can get btw. Probably 87% or so
 
To be clear NO YOU CANNOT

One person has successfully once and decided never to again. Ok you probably can, you can shoot bleach too....

You would be in absolute guinea pig territory and I can't say enough how bad of an idea this is
 
HighTolerance711 said:
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ok so just to be clear i can shoot 7oh like crack? Lemon juice solution and I’m good to go? I will be ordering powder from a vendor as close to pure as I can get btw. Probably 87% or so
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I would not take this risk, my hunch as to why it worked for that guy was that he was probably working with freebase powder that became partially salted to the citrate before being slammed, until we have a better analytical chemistry understanding of 7-OH (it has super bizarre physical properties) I would stick to vaporization of extract on a bed of flower (or dissolve it in ethanol then cure that onto a smokeable), or sublingually drop it. A way to fix the taste/low duration of sublingual administration is to make lozenges you dope up with 7-OH.
 
Them Witches said:
I strongly disagree that 7-OH is the best type of opioid next to fentanyl.

7-OH has it's place indeed in the opiate/opioid field but it is not a drug that can be used daily for chronic pain, chronic pain syndrome, cancer pain, post-op acute pain, and breakthrough pain needs.

Opioids like Oxycodone, Diluadid, Morphine, Methadone, Fentanyl, Suboxone, and Oxymorphone will work for decades for daily long-term treatment without having to increase dosages on a regular basis. 7-OH is the exact opposite.

I am sure many people will disagree with me on this and that is fine with me. My point of view is based on being physically dependent and addicted to Rx opiates/opioids for going on 40 years. I haven't had to increase my Roxicodone 210mg and Methadone 40mg in 13 months & I am doing just fine.

The only way I can get a desired result from Opia 7-OH is to take 480mg in one dosage.
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Buddy, you are doing a lot of opiates as is. 210 is a pretty hefty dose and I would be ok with that.

For reference, no tolerance, a 20 mg opia is about 2x a 30 roxy, even shooting the roxy.
 
^Thanks for the narcotics conversion shot new guy ?

You are not wrong; though that # fluctuates greatly --- Opia is a brand name at least. Shooting oxy only gets you like 15 more percent so it is kind of negligible -- but 7-0h showed to be between 13-21x potency of morphine in mice (roughly) -- which does not seem to transfer to humans that way --- except perhaps in addiction / binding affinity (? on the latter)

Lot of stories of ppl coming off 7 oh and not having subs work for w/d --- which was UNHEARD OF back before the fentanyl tranq/dope days

(First post had to break your balls a bit, welcome friend)
 
phindnarcotics said:
Buddy, you are doing a lot of opiates as is. 210 is a pretty hefty dose and I would be ok with that.

For reference, no tolerance, a 20 mg opia is about 2x a 30 roxy, even shooting the roxy.
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welcome to the forum.

it was late last night and needed to correct :
(1) placing Opia 20mg at a 80-90 MME is for a opioid naive
(2) What would you want Opia 70mg or Oxycodone 210mg ?
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Just taking a toll here, who would trade 7qty Roxi 30's for 3.5qty Opia 20mg tablets?
 
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phindnarcotics said:
Buddy, you are doing a lot of opiates as is. 210 is a pretty hefty dose and I would be ok with that.

For reference, no tolerance, a 20 mg opia is about 2x a 30 roxy, even shooting the roxy.
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Welcome to Bluelight!

I completely agree about 20mg of 7-OH on no tolerance hitting like 50-60mg of oxycodone would. The first time I took a 15mg tablet of 7-OH from a smokeshop, I blacked out for about 12 hours and it was some highly problematic bullshit. Even when combining with Soma and etizolam (which is my usual route to the holy trinity), I still find that 7-OH fits it better than oxycodone. MGM-15 fits it better than even 7-OH, while it takes ~45 minutes to sink in from oral administration you can smoke it for instant effects to cover the come-up, and it lasts 10-12 hours orally. High doses can reach 16-18 hours, but the nausea gets bad fast.
 
I would say if you have no tolerance to "de facto" opioids 7-OH is your jam and it will save you a lot of money. Oxycodone and 7-OH are very different feelings.

I have been on Mallinckrot Oxycodone HCl 30mg going on 16 years and they still work and do their job. 7-OH stopped working after a few months.
 
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