I’ve done allylescaline. Not euphoric but still worthwhile.
For me, this seems to be true of shrooms. They hit a lot harder on an empty stomach. With LSD, the difference is not as significant.
I've had it a bunch of times. I'm a fan, and I do find it's mild-to-moderately euphoric, long-lasting, and I can slip into a nice, dreamy headspace at will which is almost like being able to turn the effects on and off. MAL, it's 4-methylallyl counterpart, is also quite excellent in my opinion. Ever had it? Also recommended.
I took probably 50mg my last dose of AL. And it was just a smart drug.
@SuperPsych & @ions – I think the real magic starts to happen at ~80mg and up. I've taken as much as 200 mg at once (and tripped hard), so the safety profile seems decent to me. I think the amounts reported by Shulgin, et al. in PIHKAL are quite low and it takes 1.5x - 2x as much as what was reported. Something like that, anyways, but do note: the body load picks up with the higher doses. I like to have something physical to get into – like dancing or going for a walk/hike, maybe bike around in a safe place. It also makes for a moderately effective aphrodisiac, though it isn't pushy about this in any way.
Do you have a favourite of the 'scalines?
Paraxanthine is an interesting one. I've been using it recently.
I also combined AL with 3-me-pcp and enjoyed it, though I didnt have as much 3-me-pcp as I usually would have liked. Considering picking up more 3,4-MD-PCP while I can. It has a duration that would go nicely with AL.
Allylescaline and MDA is a beautiful combination, MDA with 3-HO-PCP, LSD and allylescaline was one of my top ten favorite combinations of all time. I also noticed that Soma trampled allylescaline, but often if I was insufflating allylescaline it seemed to cut through better than oral administration for some reason. Vaporized allylescaline also cut through better than oral, orally administered allylescaline requires a lot more material than other RoAs for not much more duration imo.
It's really not that extreme, and what's more, incredibly, Allylescaline vapes super clean in the oil burner; doesn't leave much, if any, residue or discoloration behind. I was shocked. The stuff looks vaguely like some fishscale coke, too; but it vapes like clean shards of tina. Onset and duration are shortened of course with this RoA. I prefer to insufflate it or just swallow some down the hatch, but I still change it up once in a while. It occurs to me: I should make an Allylescaline e-juice vape…
Oh you're missing out – they couple together really nicely, sorta how bumps of ketamine go so nicely with MDMA/MDA rolls. Similarly, it pairs nicely with 5-APB for me and I imagine the other "benzofury" compounds like it also pair well.
Doesn't seem to be a problem. I don't think serotonin syndrome is as common or as dangerous as people make it out to be. Not that one shouldn't avoid it; of course you should, but some people fear it way too much when it's not that common or serious. It's very rare someone dies from it.
Personally, I usually take the MDMA or MDA first, come up on that first and then I'll get into the dissociative I plan to take with it. This gives the entactogen time to do its thing and allows me to enjoy it on its own some. I do dissos more often than I take ecstasy, mostly due to the hangover recovery period needed after rolling and my complete lack of motivation following a hard roll. And since I won't be doing anything constructive that next day, dissos to the rescue!
Hell yes I have. DOB is a really fucking potent drug. I once had the isolated R-isomer, and that motherfucker is stupid potent. I took ~0.75 mg R-DOB and the body load was so intense, after ~8 hrs I tapped out with some flubromazolam in a PG/ethanol solution squirted directly under the tongue which didn't stop me from tripping but brought the trip down to a much more comfortable and manageable level. The hypertension it had been causing me was simply not enjoyable.
Hey I've done that exact same combo! It's a really good one; I concur 100%.
Yeah the faster onset probably helps it cut through more noticeably. Otherwise Allylescaline is a slow come up with a long duration, and yet oral consumption of it is still my favorite RoA, personally. I like the way it comes on and occasionally surprises me b/c I'll almost have forgotten about taking it earlier, and then it's kind of a cool surprise, lol
I actually don't think that I've ever tried any dissociative with an empathogen, despite my absolutely loving and being fascinated by dissociatives. I do have some 5-APB. I'll have to try that sometime. Unfortunately I don't have anyone to do this with at the moment. I'll have to make some like minded friends.
Allylescaline does have a really drawn out come up. Took me about 3 hours or so until I had that "there it is!" moment. I imagine vaping would be a good way to increase effects after an oral dose. I did an oral redose last time and I think that's what kept me up for 24+ hours. Considering it takes the redose 3 hours itself to reach peak effects. Vaping seems like a great idea for that. Or maybe some Mescaline with some AL vaped when desired
Never heard of that, interesting. Subjectively does it feel like caffeine? Now we just need to genetically engineer arabica coffee plants to produce that instead of normal caffeine..
Coffee plants will probably be extinct or in a state of extremely low population within the next few decades imo and in the opinions of many researchers. Synthesizing xanthines is big on my list of "chemistry to learn about now because it'll be relevant in the future". A YouTuber recently synthesized and tested DMAX on himself which was quite interesting to see.
Damn thats wild. Ugh the last DOB i took (3.6mg) at the 12 hour mark i also tried to tap out and took some clonazepam and yes it brought trip down, for a while. The benzo wore off and i was still tripping
Don't say that, you are breaking my heart
It's one of the tragic realities of climate change, things like guarana and yerba will likely be fine. Caffeine containing plants overall will remain, but coffee has very specific growing constraints to be able to hold up to industrial rates of production.