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🌟🌟 Social 🌟🌟 PD Social Thread 2022-2026 v. Year of the Phenethylamine

I've never known how to safely use dark web markets and thus have never benefited from the quality and broad availability of things that I only dream of one day ingesting.

Bummer.
 
I've always stuck to the clearnet/grey markets myself but I'm sure someone here would be able to enlighten you @Cream Gravy?
There are guides, but the gist of it is to do everything through TAILS & Tor, non-virtualized, including crypto moves which are otherwise more traceable than some ppl think. Encrypt all messages yourself using PGP (via Kleopatra or whatever); don't trust markets to do it. Remember virtually all vendors and markets will eventually exit scam or get taken down by law enforcement. There is no way to remove all risk; all we can do is make moves to minimize risk and avoid becoming a target or low-hanging fruit. If you really need help, @Cream Gravy? PM me and I'll point you in the right direction, but I get the feeling you're a bit too risk averse to make these moves.
 
DOI and DOC were now recommended to be put into schedule I by judge Paul Soeffing. Nobody fucking uses these compounds. I know you are reading this, DEA. Especially banning DOI is just throwing a wrench into research. Sad news.
 
@Cream Gravy? PM me and I'll point you in the right direction, but I get the feeling you're a bit too risk averse to make these moves.
Can't say I'm risk averse, rather that I always found using crypto even at a basic level to just be a pain in the ass. I miss when clearnet vendors took credit cards and money orders despite their ease of tracking lol
 
^It’s a lot less busy. Used to be you could have a back and forth conversation, and moderating was actually a busy task. Now it’s kinda dead, the best people either died or left the forum for the most part. Even the Lounge is relatively slow these days.

PD social used to be hopping and I made a lot of friends here. Now you’re lucky if there’s a few posts a week. And again… most of my friends from here have died. The earliest years of the fentanyl contaminating heroin took out a heck of a lot of good people :(
 
^It’s a lot less busy. Used to be you could have a back and forth conversation, and moderating was actually a busy task. Now it’s kinda dead, the best people either died or left the forum for the most part. Even the Lounge is relatively slow these days.

PD social used to be hopping and I made a lot of friends here. Now you’re lucky if there’s a few posts a week. And again… most of my friends from here have died. The earliest years of the fentanyl contaminating heroin took out a heck of a lot of good people :(
Interesting, I wonder if that's because of most younger people not having a single understanding as to how old school forum formats like this work. Have there been any concrete/agreed upon reasons as for the decline in userbase?
 
Man I'm still not even 2 years into having an account here, despite having lurked for years before then. From your perspective, how has the site changed in the 10 years you've been around?

Definitely agree with @Cream Gravy?
5 years ago, if I skipped coming here for a couple of days, I couldn't really keep up with all the new replies on the socials threads. Now I log in once a week and there's like less than another page worth of new replies.


Something else I feel is different is how the discussion about substances has stagnated a bit in a sense. Between 2010 and 2020 there were new psychedelics reaching the market almost every other month, especially if you count all the dissos. Now there really aren't a lot of new RCs being produced, so I guess discussion about novel substances is rarer nowadays. Now we have more info to hold on to about a lot of stuff that some years ago was practically unknown, and this has changed the tone of the discussion too. What gets posted now feels to me more like consolidating and expanding upon something rather than pure speculation and exploration. And I kinda feel like this has also shifted the discussion more towards a scientific perspective in a way? There's a lot more formal studies about some of this stuff than 10 years ago ,and a lot more well-informed BL users that have been reading on this stuff for decades now (not that there weren't before, but I feel like now there's a lot more).


Finally, I would say that it is definitely true too that the age average has shifted haha. I guess there are not many new users that stick for long and those of us who have been around for a while now are of course not getting any younger lol. And it shows when we talk about our drug use, there's fewer of us going into multiday binges on combinations of substances in the middle of the week. I remember that was kinda the norm 10 years ago lol.

But this is just my impression, not sure everyone here would agree.
 
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While my job affords me random middle of the week drug use, I cannot afford abuse. I use drugs to maintain my life and that’s that now. Of course, I’m drunk now and have taken 15mg Psilacetin today. Strange times. For the most part I’m an alcoholic and drink is the most original of original drugs I’ve come to think.
 
Definitely agree with @Cream Gravy?
5 years ago, if I skipped coming here for a couple of days, I couldn't really keep up with all the new replies on the socials threads. Now I log in once a week and there's like less than another page worth of new replies.


Something else I feel is different is how the discussion about substances has stagnated a bit in a sense. Between 2010 and 2020 there were new psychedelics reaching the market almost every other month, especially if you count all the dissos. Now there really aren't a lot of new RCs being produced, so I guess discussion about novel substances is rarer nowadays. Now we have more info to hold on to about a lot of stuff that some years ago was practically unknown, and this has changed the tone of the discussion too. What gets posted now feels to me more like consolidating and expanding upon something rather than pure speculation and exploration. And I kinda feel like this has also shifted the discussion more towards a scientific perspective in a way? There's a lot more formal studies about some of this stuff than 10 years ago ,and a lot more well-informed BL users that have been reading on this stuff for decades now (not that there weren't before, but I feel like now there's a lot more).


Finally, I would say that it is definitely true too that the age average has shifted haha. I guess there are not many new users that stick for long and those of us who have been around for a while now are of course not getting any younger lol. And it shows when we talk about our drug use, there's fewer of us going into multiday binges on combinations of substances in the middle of the week. I remember that was kinda the norm 10 years ago lol.

But this is just my impression, not sure everyone here would agree.
I definitely get that, the reason I like it here compared to other forums is that it's not the 16 year olds on Reddit posting shit like "I'm physically dependant on 25-40mg of Etizolam a day and my parents just took my supply, what do I do?". I feel like I'm younger than most people here (26) but it's just a generally calmer place where more people are interested in being functional, as opposed to escaping the feeling that most younger people justifiably have of feeling like we've been born into the end of the world around us.

Thank you for your perspective here!
 
I definitely get that, the reason I like it here compared to other forums is that it's not the 16 year olds on Reddit posting shit like "I'm physically dependant on 25-40mg of Etizolam a day and my parents just took my supply, what do I do?". I feel like I'm younger than most people here (26) but it's just a generally calmer place where more people are interested in being functional, as opposed to escaping the feeling that most younger people justifiably have of feeling like we've been born into the end of the world around us.

Thank you for your perspective here!
Yeah, I totally agree, the discussion here is much more experienced and level headed. At the same time, I may be biased but I feel the general atmosphere is much nicer and less judgemental than in other online forums.
 
Oh yeah holy shit, looks like I'm coming on to 12. How is that possible!?
I opened my first account here at age 17 in 2001. Delsyd is my 3rd incarnation.
At this point I feel like BL and especially PD will be a part of my life forever. Even tho I don’t engage much these days I’m still always lurking.
 
Interesting, I wonder if that's because of most younger people not having a single understanding as to how old school forum formats like this work. Have there been any concrete/agreed upon reasons as for the decline in userbase?
The site is definitely less busy than it was in like 2010, but claiming it's dead or there's only a few posts a week is a bit of an overstatement. There are dozens of posts even on the slowest days, thousands of visitors every day. I'm sure some of those are bots, and most are just guest accounts, but, still, people use the website quite a bit, especially in comparison to other comparable forums.

The primary thing we can point to is the change in search engine algorithms and the fact that we're essentially shadowbanned by Google for problematic content or whatever now, which wasn't the case 15 years ago. Bluelight won't come up in a typical Google search so basically new people just don't find it anymore.

Also, in that time, the internet has just changed drastically. It's a different generation of people. A lot of people are on reddit, TikTok, whatever. There are several major social media platforms that are ubiquitous now that did not even exist in the forums heyday. Just not many people even use forums at all anymore, so of course a forum based on a topic that's equated to criminal activity, is going to be a lot less busy.
 
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