Droppersneck
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I’ll say it a million times. DLPA DLPA DLPA
It’s an amazing substance that gets rid of 99% of it every time.
It’s an amazing substance that gets rid of 99% of it every time.
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Opioids Can anyone give tips on how to sleep during opiate/opioid withdrawal?
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Pickledlemons
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Benzos the only thing that have worked for me. Seroquel works great getting to sleep when high or coming down on stims but it just doesn't quite seem to work while in opioid withdrawal. Makes you feel like you're about to fall asleep but never do. Not mention I had some pretty whack dreams, well half dreams since I never completely got to sleep. More like waking delusions.
Actually now that I think about it... I believe I had some luck with with doxylamine before too. And thats not as dangerous as benzos, dependencies wise.
Actually now that I think about it... I believe I had some luck with with doxylamine before too. And thats not as dangerous as benzos, dependencies wise.
I find cure alls general fall into 2 categories; those being medications that are just addiction replacement therapies, and then you have anecdotal experiences some swear by that do absolutely nothing for most people.
Can you medically explain the nature of DLPA use and why it would help opioid withdrawal?
I BANISH THEE FEDBOI!
Would I at least be allowed to try the drugs before I get arrested?
Just curious.
axe battler
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I have never really used it, or maybe I did a wee bump of ketamine during opiate withdrawal, but I hear it really helps.
Don't go mad with it, small bumps if your tolerance is low.
It probably won't help you sleep but it'll definitely help distract you can make you comfortable. If you like to hole then I dunno what that's like when clucking.
I hear dxm is also good, but not as good as ket. Easier to get tho.
I wouldn't try to sleep, just take the comfort meds, the pregabalin at 300-600mg will make you wanna get up and clean nmif you're like me, then go to bed and watch cool movies. You'll definitely sleep eventually.
I find my sleep returns gradually. Like the first time it's 30-60 mins, then 60-90 or even 120 or more. And so on until I'mback to normal thank fuck.
Don't go mad with it, small bumps if your tolerance is low.
It probably won't help you sleep but it'll definitely help distract you can make you comfortable. If you like to hole then I dunno what that's like when clucking.
I hear dxm is also good, but not as good as ket. Easier to get tho.
I wouldn't try to sleep, just take the comfort meds, the pregabalin at 300-600mg will make you wanna get up and clean nmif you're like me, then go to bed and watch cool movies. You'll definitely sleep eventually.
I find my sleep returns gradually. Like the first time it's 30-60 mins, then 60-90 or even 120 or more. And so on until I'mback to normal thank fuck.
K IS THE FUCKIN BOMB, however I highly recommend doing it in a controlled therapeutic setting and not illicit or detox use. It's better as a depression amd trauma treatment.
Droppersneck
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Look it up I’m not making it up. And placebos have never worked for me. It’s an amino acid and it repairs those broken path ways in your brain. It’s not recreational, but it also helps you tan better in the sun. Cool substance worth checking out. It gets rid of w/ds every time, and nothing more
FunctionalJnkieGrl
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I've heard from benzo addicts that it increases your appetite. Not a bad thing when you're too stressed to eat.
FunctionalJnkieGrl
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I had a bad experience with DXM once when I was 16. Never again will I touch a dissociative drug. I wanted to try ketamine at one point, but nope. Not if it's anything like DXM. I think in my case it would make withdrawals worse if I'm already feeling shitty. If it helps others though, I'd say go for it.
It can. I'm 135 lbs and very ohysically fit at 25 y/o and 5'10" but a lot of pwople gain a bunch of weight from benzos, myself included at first on valium...
tokayeahok
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clonidine, a benzo, and some weed if you’re into that - i personally can’t smoke because of anxiety it can help the mental part of it && alleviate some stress. do not take a antihistamine such as benadryl unless you’re on gabapentin or enough benzos to manage the restless leg.
red strain maeng da helped me get at least an hour in opiate withdrawal.
the shitty part is, you’re not going to sleep like you want to. it’s part of withdrawal and something you’ll have to deal with, unfortunately
and there isn’t a catch-all for it. if you can’t sleep, then watch some movies or something that occupies your time.
i wish you the best of luck. you got this. xo
red strain maeng da helped me get at least an hour in opiate withdrawal.
the shitty part is, you’re not going to sleep like you want to. it’s part of withdrawal and something you’ll have to deal with, unfortunately
and there isn’t a catch-all for it. if you can’t sleep, then watch some movies or something that occupies your time.i wish you the best of luck. you got this. xo
FunctionalJnkieGrl
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Thanks for the encouragement. The only diphenhydramine I take is 1 capful ZzzQuil before bed with a melatonin tablet, but never by itself. I'd use it as an opiate potentiator or in conjunction with benzos and/or kratom during withdrawal. In small doses with other comfort meds, it can be helpful. By itself or in large doses, it's counterproductive.clonidine, a benzo, and some weed if you’re into that - i personally can’t smoke because of anxiety it can help the mental part of it && alleviate some stress. do not take a antihistamine such as benadryl unless you’re on gabapentin or enough benzos to manage the restless leg.
red strain maeng da helped me get at least an hour in opiate withdrawal.
the shitty part is, you’re not going to sleep like you want to. it’s part of withdrawal and something you’ll have to deal with, unfortunately
i wish you the best of luck. you got this. xo
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Can someone explain methadone a bit more for me. I understand the long half life . Gradual build up and reduction etc. Ppl mention it blocking effects of opiates .I thought it just a slow acting opiate?.
also the rls . Antihistamines make it worse.is this a fact of personal opinion?.
finally what can I take on methadone for rls.
my own experiences have been going cold and doing weed. Then found kr atom but experienced health issues off it long term. Last attempt was just working down opiate ladder to sr morphine and reducing but this still left few weeks with no sleep and maybe few months depression.
cheers guys ..phall
also the rls . Antihistamines make it worse.is this a fact of personal opinion?.
finally what can I take on methadone for rls.
my own experiences have been going cold and doing weed. Then found kr atom but experienced health issues off it long term. Last attempt was just working down opiate ladder to sr morphine and reducing but this still left few weeks with no sleep and maybe few months depression.
cheers guys ..phall
FunctionalJnkieGrl
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To answer your question about methadone, you're right. It is indeed a slow-acting, yet potent OPIOID, not an opiate. The difference between an opiate and an opioid is that opiates are naturally derived from the opium poppy (papaver somniferum), whereas opioids are synthetic but act on the same receptors as natural opiates. There's no major differences between opiates and opioids aside from the fact that one is naturally derived and the other is man-made. Also, there are semi-synthetic opioids which are partially derived from the opium poppy. Examples of opiates are: morphine, codeine, and heroin. Examples of opioids are: Tramadol, methadone, suboxone, and fentanyl. Semi-synthetics are: hydrocodone and oxycodone. Of course I'm not listing all the examples, but you get the gist. Whoever told you that methadone is an opiate blocker was probably confusing it with suboxone, which acts as an opiate blocker while simultaneously being an opioid. Suboxone not only blocks the effects of other narcotic painkillers, but it can also trigger severe withdrawals if taken too soon after your last dose of your opiate/opioid of choice. In order for it to work properly, you must wait until you're having withdrawals (when you're detoxing from your drug of choice).
Answer to your 2nd question: I'm not sure if all antihistamines make RLS worse, but diphenhydramine (Benadryl and ZzzQuil) can and will in large doses or when taken by itself. Diphenhydramine is notorious for worsening RLS during withdrawal and can even cause it in itself in larger doses--even if you've never touched an opiate/opioid. I know this from first-hand experience. It can however be helpful in small doses in conjunction with comfort meds like benzos and kratom, but I would never reccomend taking it by itself to ease withdrawal. It'll just make it worse.
3rd question: I don't know exactly what would help relieve RLS with methadone other than maybe Kratom, weed, or a topical ointment to get rid of some surface irritation. I reccomend trying a lavender lotion called "Relaxing Leg Cream PM". It's not a miracle product, but it's better than nothing and provides mild, temporary relief. It's a homeopathic lotion designed specifically for RLS and it smells really nice. Normally I'd recommend benzos for RLS during withdrawal, but I'm not sure if that would be safe to mix with methadone. Kratom is natural but it's effects are similar to a mild opiate/opioid, so I'm not sure if that would be 100% safe to mix with methadone either, to be honest (but I'd assume it's safer than mixing methadone with a benzo).
Lastly: Scratch my kratom reccomendations if it doesn't work for you. The effectiveness of kratom varies greatly from person to person. For me, it doesn't get me high at all, but it did provide some much needed relief and sleep before I relapsed. I see kratom as a comfort med and recovery tool and nothing more. It's the only time it proved useful for me.
Hope my advice/suggestions help. Stay safe and good luck.
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axe battler
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Ket is in the same class of drugs as dxm, but it really is rather different. Dxm in low doses is kind of like alcohol, then when you take more it induces quite an out of body experience, but a bit more dirty than K. K in small amounts makes you euphoric and dampens and sedates, and makes you feel a bit "wonky". A k hole is really quite mind blowing. It kind of feels like I'm dead, and I have the most indescribable and bizarre thoughts, sometimes forgetting I've taken anything and this is my permanent headspace. It's worth a try, but it can be scary as fuck. I'd recommend trying small bumps first.z
Methadone doesn't really block other opiates, it just jack's up your tolerance so H etc isn't really effective. Methadone is very potent.
10mg will have an opiate naive person puking and high for almost 2 days, and H addicts often are on 100mg or more. It's still possible to use H on top, and if you IV you'll get a rush, but it's nowhere near as good as your tolerance is so high cos of the methadone.
People often end up with 2 habits, and, if they stop the H/fent etc. they'll rattle even when they take their methadone, but not as badly as they would without their meffy.
Tl/Dr meffy doesn't block, it just jack's up tolerance so street gear isn't as effective, so most people lose interest.
I remember last time going cold .it was the rls that I found worse .it just wouldn't shift. I ended up using deep heat like it was baby lotion on my legs.
apart from benzodiazepines i d be interested to hear of any other things ppl have found to work for it.
can I take ket and opiates together .I've don't them at separate times but didn't know if they affect each other?
apart from benzodiazepines i d be interested to hear of any other things ppl have found to work for it.
can I take ket and opiates together .I've don't them at separate times but didn't know if they affect each other?
scottcrud1234
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probably gonna get grief for this but may i suggest 200mg quetiapine. its knocks me the fuck out for 12 hours easy. but build up a tolerence very quickly.
scottcrud1234
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its an anti psychotic. not sure how safe it is though. just putting my 2 penny inn