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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy DOC Thread - Third opinion

The number of people that regularly intentionally use DOC and DOI can probably be counted on two hands, yet the DEA will gladly ban it out of existence. I saw this silly motion a few weeks ago and am incredibly happy to see it gone. If they ban DOC people will just move onto DOPR or ZDCM-04.
 
ErgotFiend said:
The number of people that regularly intentionally use DOC and DOI can probably be counted on two hands, yet the DEA will gladly ban it out of existence. I saw this silly motion a few weeks ago and am incredibly happy to see it gone. If they ban DOC people will just move onto DOPR or ZDCM-04.
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I doubt its that few, obviously there is a demand since its been available for many years.
But i agree its a niche market.
 
higherconciousness said:
I’m trying to upload to the forum, but I’ve never done that before so not sure how to convert it to a url. I’m working out it, but by description alone they are moderately sized off white blotters that says DOC 2mg on each tab and part of the bottom sheet has the actual molecule printed on. I see a carbon double bound of the benzene ring and part of another carbon bond that extends towards where I believe the primary amine bond would be if The whole sheet were intact.

I uploaded the link not sure if it’s visible. I ate the double bond part so it’s not there any more

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I believe that I have the same/similar tabs.
Fingers crossed that mine aren't bunk, since mass spectrometry testing did indicate the presence of DOC.
 
You totally should DOC is the best drug for a festival probably, either that or aMT. If its multiple days you should do both of them if you got um. The last festival i went to i brought 2C-D and 2C-C with me which was the dumbest shit ever in retrospect. Why on earth choose two drugs with such short durations, it left me soberish for large portions of the day cuz i dont drink alcohol like everyone else.

On a sidenote im gonna be getting some DOB this year and this time it is actually gonna be DOB. Last time we got fooled by that fucker misrepresenting DOC, it was a great batch of that stuff but he charged my friend much more money than he should have for DOC with his switcharoo. This is why you always need to be honest RC vendor, when you lie to the scene its very bad karma.
 
Has anyone tried combining DOC with dissociatives? What disso you used and how was your experience? My SO and I love combining psychedelics with dissociatives, but have only tried DOC on its own. The name confusion of DOC (with drug of choice) doesn't really help with search results...

We're trying to choose between K, DCK, 2F-DCK, 3-MeO-PCP, 3-MeO-PCE and 3-HO-PCP.

I generally love how 3-MeO-PCP combines with stimulating psychedelics, like moxy, having a manic euphoria with electric feeling across the body. But with the DOC's case, I'm afraid of "manic fun" turning into a full blown psychosis... Given that, I'm disinclined to combine with 3-MeO-PCE/PCP. I'm also wondering if DOC's stimulation may not combine well with stimulating dissos, like DCK or 2F-DCK. I guess that's leaving me with K or 3-HO-PCP?
 
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wormdevil said:
Has anyone tried combining DOC with dissociatives? What disso you used and how was your experience? My SO and I love combining psychedelics with dissociatives, but have only tried DOC on its own. The name confusion of DOC (with drug of choice) doesn't really help with search results...

We're trying to choose between K, DCK, 2F-DCK, 3-MeO-PCP, 3-MeO-PCE and 3-HO-PCP.

I generally love how 3-MeO-PCP combines with stimulating psychedelics, like moxy, having a manic euphoria with electric feeling across the body. But with the DOC's case, I'm afraid of "manic fun" turning into a full blown psychosis... Given that, I'm disinclined to combine with 3-MeO-PCE/PCP. I'm also wondering if DOC's stimulation may not combine well with stimulating dissos, like DCK or 2F-DCK. I guess that's leaving me with K or 3-HO-PCP?
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I only do DOC with a good stash of ket or nitrous available.
Partily because the duration makes me have something to distract myself with.
And also because the synergy is profound.
 
What set& setting do you prefer for doc?
Ive only done doses at +2mg a handfull times.
I think ive done 2-3doses just chilling at home with a load of ket and nitrous to keep me busy.
While def a fun time i dont recall much of those trips.

My best trips with doc was at a small private rave party.
It was at a scout cabin where a crew used like 1/4th of their 20kw rig inside a small Cabin.
It was a 48h party with a few hours of silence during the days.
I also had a tent outside of the party and everyone there could just take beers or snacks free from the kitchen.
So it was a perfect place to drop 2,5mg doc and just cruise around and have a good time.
Still with the duration i want to have alot nitrous and ket with doc.

Im thinking next summer to go camping somewhere and take a dose.
If im alone i wont do ket in the forest, but with some friends it could be a good time.
 
Bitchniggaz said:
What set& setting do you prefer for doc?
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Outdoor, daytime, in private or sparsely populated settings. This last time we rented a house with a pool and a hot tub. Watch the CEVs while sunbathing, listen to music, swim, have sex, prep some food (surprisingly fun to eat), a little board gaming, more sex, stargazing, watch a movie etc.

I started with ~3.25 mg DOC, added 75ug 1p-LSD @+5 hrs, and added 14mg 3-MeO-PCP along with some weed @+10 hrs. I had very little body load all throughout (attributing to hot tub), but did have diarrhea a few hrs into it. It was super clear headed, and unfortunately with little OEVs. The CEVs were rather rich though.

Next time, I'll consider adding a more visual trypt (e.g. 4-AcO-MET) to enrichen the OEVs. I also was basking on the lucidity of the trip, but the disso + weed ramping up the visuals were quite enjoyable, so I may also add the disso 2-3 hrs earlier. I've forgotten about my vitamin C regimen to speed up the elimination of amps, since I had mistakenly thought I was baseline at 16 hrs (but little did I know that I would be super awake when I laid down). I recommend everyone to read up on how urine pH impacts elimination of amphetamines (and other substances that are eliminated via kidney unmetabolized), to influence the duration of the experiences.
 
2 weeks ago I took 2,2mg DOC at a massive rave. Started Saturday at 5h30pm. Supplemented with 25mg 2c-d at T+6h and started smoking weed at T+7h.
Great mood, social, endless energy for dancing, clear head, nice visuals, ... .

Fell asleep for 1,5hours at t+16h. Just took it easy day after, lots of water and food.
Monday perfectly ok, although a bit tired,
Tuesday back into exercise.

What a great substance.
 
Yep, DOC is fantastic, isn't it? :) Perfect for a rave or festival or anything like that. The only negative things about DOC involve if you take it and try to sit around the house. Then the bodyload becomes a bit too much. But if you're active and doing stuff, it's very comfortable the whole time. And its social nature makes it easy to be around other people and socialize. In fact the plateau of DOC, post-peak, involves the desire to talk deeply about any and all topics, every time, for me. Talking becomes the primary aim.
 
Xorkoth said:
Yep, DOC is fantastic, isn't it? :) Perfect for a rave or festival or anything like that. The only negative things about DOC involve if you take it and try to sit around the house. Then the bodyload becomes a bit too much. But if you're active and doing stuff, it's very comfortable the whole time. And its social nature makes it easy to be around other people and socialize. In fact the plateau of DOC, post-peak, involves the desire to talk deeply about any and all topics, every time, for me. Talking becomes the primary aim.
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Well said. You have to be active on this indeed. Hiking, dancing, ... . And indeed its so social. Moreso than MDMA imo. Well maybe not "more" but definitely leaning more to real talking instead of the regular "hey I love you !" during parties.
I have a shirt with "tavisupleba" ('freedom' in Georgian writing) which I regularly wear during raves and when people ask me about it I explain how I love the country and its people. I just want to start a conversation about what freedom means to people but no one wants to go deep at a rave ;).
 
Achten said:
no one wants to go deep at a rave
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Yeah, it's kinda dramatic for me, considering that I would like to know people, specially if I would like to flirt with anyone, then I necessarily would like to go deep.
I guess I'm that kind of people that the media calls "sapio-sexual".
Or well, just talking with people, small talk it's boring
 
Achten said:
Well said. You have to be active on this indeed. Hiking, dancing, ... . And indeed its so social. Moreso than MDMA imo. Well maybe not "more" but definitely leaning more to real talking instead of the regular "hey I love you !" during parties.
I have a shirt with "tavisupleba" ('freedom' in Georgian writing) which I regularly wear during raves and when people ask me about it I explain how I love the country and its people. I just want to start a conversation about what freedom means to people but no one wants to go deep at a rave ;).
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Yeah, DOC facilitates deep discussions, very real discussions, about anything and everything, always insightful and on a very high level. The topic tends to center around humanity/the world, and typically whoever I trip with and I basically don't stop talking for the entire day. I feel intellectually sharp and able and willing to communicate very well and am very articulate. On occasions I have spent the trip writing, when I was by myself, and the writing is actually very good, with truly insightful thoughts (rather than the psychobabble of disjointed thoughts that some drugs can make one feel are profound thoughts in the moment). There is also always a lot of great, warm humor, lots of laughter, and wordplay. It has at times made me feel some social anxiety when I was thrown into a hectic situation where I had to appear normal and was amongst a lot of people (one time at a concert that was at a theater that was mostly attended by older rednecks drinking beer... thousands of them).
 
higherconciousness said:
Sucks my doc tabs were bunk. This one guy has 2mg pellets but absurdly priced. I need to take 3-4 mg from what I’ve gathered
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If its pure powder you will absolutely feel 2mgs of DOC, and strongly in fact. Without tolerance set in 4mgs in VERY powerful and not a goodtime for alot of people. Personally ive done 4-5mgs a bunch of times but it was in an era where i was using DOx compounds like twice a week. And some of those times id ended up taking Clonazepam to smoothen things out a bit. If you get a new batch id still take 2mgs at first and see what your working with.
 
Well they’re 2 tabs not powder unfortunately. They are ridiculously costful but this one source is renowned for being on point with his absurdly large inventory of compounds
 
I have been sitting on a good amount of DOC but had taken a long break from it and up until recently all psychedelics briefly while I worked on some lingering personal issues. I took around 2 mg today at a virtual reality conference I am attending and it's been an amazing return. I like what xorkoth said in the past of it being a psychedelic adderall...as someone who didn't realize he had adhd until he was an adult I have to say this is a great description. This headspace would be pretty optimal for me for design work
 
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