Energy drinks maybe next on the list. Perhaps they will have to show how much caffeine they have on them.
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Professor Nutt's magic jizz (Sentia)
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Regardless if it's GHB or GBL, your claim can't be completely accurate, can it? Not trying to call you out, but if for nothing else than harm reduction, ML (milliliters) is a measurement of volume in the medical/drug field. Unless a substance has a universal or static amount of each chemical in it, ML alone cannot give you the dosage of what one puts in their body. My comment is also inquisitive, due to some odd circumstances, a small container of liquid GHB was left behind at my once shared residence and was told to keep it, as there was no way for the person to retrieve it. So is GHB usually the same milligrams per ML across the board for recreation/home made GHB? I would like to try it, Is there a way to test it, or maybe a low volume amount that wouldn't be harmful even if it was made with a high mg/ML ratio, to test the waters so to speak, then slowly titrate up from there? Thanks in advance for any advice you can give.
Bleaney
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The info was accurate regarding GBL. Of course myself and others reading will be aware what a ML is, and I always used 2 ML syringes split into 10ths of a ML to measure the doses so I knew exactly how much I was consuming each time.
Yes the strength of GBL can vary from batch to batch, and from different manufacturers and suppliers, but not by very much in my experience. But you still start low and work up to find your dose with each new batch. Starting at 0.5ML, and usually working up in increments of 0.5 ML for highest safety, until you find your sweet spot. You could work up by tenths of a ML if you wanted to err on the side of being highly cautious at first, until you find your range. But this generally would not be necessary or practical in most cases, as most likely you would't be consuming enough to have any effect at all. Research is essential, but experience is the best teacher.
A commonly stated recreational dose range for GBL is 0.5 ML - 1.5 ML every couple of hours or so. K/Os (in my personal experience from taking slightly over ones personal limit) but also fatalities can and have occurred from members I personally knew on here from, it was speculated, by going literally just a couple of ml above that dose range. At least the odd K/O or two is almost inevitable in working out personal limits, but pushing things too far and too quickly beyond the recreational dose range is very dangerous. That is the commonly received and shared knowledge regarding GBL.
As GHB is essentially a case of add boiling water to the powder to consume, then that can be much more variable in strength as it obviously depends how much water is added, and the strength or purity of the powder to begin with.
GBL is caustic and tastes very bad so it is generally diluted and made consumable by squirting the syringe into a drink of cola etc. Some people us rectal administration. GHB doesnt tatse as bad but is usually also consumed the same way.
If you want to call bullshit on me then fine. But that is my experience.
It's not an exact method or statement but most of us are not scientists.
Maybe someone who is qualified in the field and also has posted about consuming GBL, a member such as @fastandbulbous could confirm the gist of what I have said, If he sees this post.
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Quote from sentia on their page.
To put you at ease, alcohol dependency is caused by dopamine and endorphin release, not GABA. Alcohol and Benzo withdrawal is caused by the up-regulation of Glutamate receptors, causing neuronal hyper excitivity, not GABA disregulation. SENTIA works on the GABA system, as alcohol and benzodiazipines do (though alcohol does to a far far higher degree) but the active ingredients in SENTIA are designed to be in the brain for a much shorter time than either alcohol or benzos, which means there is much less risk of neuro-adapatation and therefore dependency and withdrawal symptoms.
SENTIA is in-fact designed to prevent dependency! It’s a safer alcohol alternative, preventing dependency is one of the reasons it was created.
To put you at ease, alcohol dependency is caused by dopamine and endorphin release, not GABA. Alcohol and Benzo withdrawal is caused by the up-regulation of Glutamate receptors, causing neuronal hyper excitivity, not GABA disregulation. SENTIA works on the GABA system, as alcohol and benzodiazipines do (though alcohol does to a far far higher degree) but the active ingredients in SENTIA are designed to be in the brain for a much shorter time than either alcohol or benzos, which means there is much less risk of neuro-adapatation and therefore dependency and withdrawal symptoms.
SENTIA is in-fact designed to prevent dependency! It’s a safer alcohol alternative, preventing dependency is one of the reasons it was created.
Forever Changes
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Quote from sentia on their page.
To put you at ease, alcohol dependency is caused by dopamine and endorphin release, not GABA. Alcohol and Benzo withdrawal is caused by the up-regulation of Glutamate receptors, causing neuronal hyper excitivity, not GABA disregulation. SENTIA works on the GABA system, as alcohol and benzodiazipines do (though alcohol does to a far far higher degree) but the active ingredients in SENTIA are designed to be in the brain for a much shorter time than either alcohol or benzos, which means there is much less risk of neuro-adapatation and therefore dependency and withdrawal symptoms.
SENTIA is in-fact designed to prevent dependency! It’s a safer alcohol alternative, preventing dependency is one of the reasons it was created.
But can it get you smashed?
Can smash your wallet.
SpiralusSancti
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WDs have to do with neuronal hyper excitivity, but getting addicted to and rising tolerance hast to do A LOT with GABA too. Ignoring that is not too far from saying proper drunkenness have to do with NMDA and other less pronounced mechanisms of alcohol.Quote from sentia on their page.
To put you at ease, alcohol dependency is caused by dopamine and endorphin release, not GABA. Alcohol and Benzo withdrawal is caused by the up-regulation of Glutamate receptors, causing neuronal hyper excitivity, not GABA disregulation. SENTIA works on the GABA system, as alcohol and benzodiazipines do (though alcohol does to a far far higher degree) but the active ingredients in SENTIA are designed to be in the brain for a much shorter time than either alcohol or benzos, which means there is much less risk of neuro-adapatation and therefore dependency and withdrawal symptoms.
SENTIA is in-fact designed to prevent dependency! It’s a safer alcohol alternative, preventing dependency is one of the reasons it was created.
SpiralusSancti
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More often case of not removing water after making it from GBL.
With max saturation of water with GHB it’s still really potent. About 50 – 50 mix of GHB and GBL I had was just slightly less potent than just GBL.
SpiralusSancti
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In fact GHB being less potent comes from it that it’s GHB Na or GHB Mg or something and GBL is just GBL so it’s less potent in gram per gram too, not just ml per ml. Now with that in consideration if I had only GHB I would notice it’s less potent. And maybe GHB/GBL I had also had some synergy. When I had GHB alone it was for sure more diluted than necessary but that wont always be the case.
. Hope Mr nutt doesn't get too old meantime
AlsoTapered
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Nutt HAS a perfectly good alcohol mimic but UK law would never allow it to be licenced. As a treatment for alcohol dependence and then in 20 years an alcohol alternative, maybe, but GABA labs are just using him as a figurehead. They are getting a LOT of investment and so expect pyeyzolam to turn up as one of their discoveries... under another name, I presume.
I sold the design because I didn't see a future in it. 10 years later nothing. I was offered shares in Alcorelle and I'm glad I took the money as it seems to have crashed.
But I used some cunning footwork to prevent him patenting a LOT of compounds? How? I E-mailed him the designs and he was dumb enough to REPLY so I can prove I came up with them.
BTW I am not saying I am smarter than anyone else - only that I knew exactly how to manipulate the man who is arrogant.
As it is I offered my new design to GABA labs and got no response. They DIDN'T bite so are slightly smarter.
I sold the design because I didn't see a future in it. 10 years later nothing. I was offered shares in Alcorelle and I'm glad I took the money as it seems to have crashed.
But I used some cunning footwork to prevent him patenting a LOT of compounds? How? I E-mailed him the designs and he was dumb enough to REPLY so I can prove I came up with them.
BTW I am not saying I am smarter than anyone else - only that I knew exactly how to manipulate the man who is arrogant.
As it is I offered my new design to GABA labs and got no response. They DIDN'T bite so are slightly smarter.
So are you wanting alcarelle to succeed or fail?
Oh interesting. So what's gonna happen if the substance passes safety testing? Are you going to come calling to play for keeps or try and stop it etc..?
What is legally yours your entitled to sir.
Just get it out there so I can party with it...( Mild 2 unit party but a party none the less
)Cool. Exciting to say the least. Sentia users probably also curious or excited.
Up to the mods to answer your word document query sir .
Can anyone help here? I'm techno phob
AlsoTapered
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Me too. My PC is for ChemOffice, Reaxys, E-mail and BBSs.
specialspack
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Living life man, you know?
specialspack
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What do you want to do? You can share a google drive link or upload a doc to somewhere like Dropbox?