Oral is the only way I dose 3-cl-pcp. Tried snorting it once but it burned way too much for way too long. Sometimes I'll bite off a little bit of a crystal and swallow without a cap so I guess that would have some sublingual action, but yeah, basically only orally. I'm curious to try it rectally but it would have to be insanely diluted I think to not cause severe discomfort.
I doubt that would burn or require that much dilution. I mean, it doesn't really burn in the mouth, under the tongue or in the throat and stomach, at least for me, so I'd say there's a good chance it wouldn't hurt much if at all in the
culo. I think the nasal mucosa is just particularly sensitive it would seem especially to chemicals that are abnormally acidic or caustic. Two or three mL is probably all you need in an oral syringe, lie on your stomach and ride the Disso Bus into Boof Town. Lols.
I do wonder what the pH of this is once in a nearly saturated solution w/water…
Plus I'm also on Suboxone which leads to some constipation fairly often, so I don't trust that I'm ever really clean enough down there at this point my life, so I haven't ventured to try that method.
Yeah, intrarectal is not my favorite ROA, but perhaps try treating the constipation first. You could try something stimmy, from speed, meth, or cocaine, to legal alternatives like coffee/caffeine, yohimbine, Red Bull, Yellow Jackets, Stacker III, &c. Also, you could try giving yourself an enema by buying a kit from the pharmacy and using it first to clear out your colon/rectum. Although, admittedly this is a bit of effort and discomfort, but on the other hand, I hate being constipated and cannot stand that side effect from opiates, which I rarely use unless I'm in legit severe pain.
I actually usually stagger my doses, but I find that I max out at around 120-150mg throughout the course of a 14 to almost 24 hour session with it at times.
Based on what you've said here, I starting revisiting this compound last night. Didn't do much, but I'm gonna pick back this afternoon and see where I get with it. I'll take your advice and start low and kind of increment up during the day. We'll see where we get. I'm also in the process of moving into some new office space today, so it should be an interesting challenge…
If I'm eager to jump right into the euphoric and empathogenic effects, I usually start with 50-60mg. Although, despite it being a very pleasurable drug for me, it is also quite intense so some days I'm nervous and will start with 20mg, and once that kicks in and provides some of its anxiolytic effects and I feel more comfortable with the experience, I'll top off with 20mg every 1-3 hours until I get to my max of 120mg-150mg.
Pretty good blueprint. I was gonna start with 30 mg. I
barely feel anything at 15 mg, and 90 mg made me puke. And what's with us both using multiples of 15 (min)?
I would say for a once off dose to get a good feel for the effects, 60mgs. At 60mg it provides the intense pleasurable tactile sensations, empathogenic effects and starts getting into introspection. I find that the dissociative effects don't become evident until 80mg or higher.
At 60 mg dosed at once, I previously found myself couch-locked and stuck. I thought I could break through or something by taking 90 mg, but that turned out to be a mistake. So now I'm going back to find the sweet spot and see if I can maintain it by topping it off.
I do understand that 3-CL-PCP is a dissociative drug. I guess what I mean is, the dissociative effects of this drug aren't where it shines, and that I feel there is something more than just it's NMDA antagonist effects, and even more than it's DRI effects. I don't know how to explain it. I have tried over 100 psychoactive of all classes and feel like I can pinpoint when a drug is working on certain systems. I don't say that to be a braggart or anything. This drug just boggles my mind because after trying over 100 drugs, this one is in a realm all its own. It just feels unlike any other drug I have tried. I don't know how to explain it, I wish i knew how to say it but I don't at the moment. Its just an insanely unique drug to me. I'm honestly very surprised that it isn't more popular than it is.
I feel like you've explained it fairly well, even if just to say that you enjoy its effects beyond words. I felt this way about MXE and wish like hell I still had some. It was sublime.
You know, I used to give ppl shit for modifying the word "unique", which in its original definition meant "one-of-a-kind", but in a descriptivist sense, the word is used to mean "unusual" more commonly these days. And so to clarify – do you consider the qualitative effects of 3-CL-PCP to be that different from, say, 3F-PCP, and is so… how so? I'm having a hard time discerning their effects as I try more of this 3-CL-PCP and having become recently more familiar with 3F-PCP…
To revisit this statement, if you have the means to revisit it, then I urge you to do so.
Doing so, as mentioned above.
I try my best not to push drugs on people,
Hey you can't force the willing, but lol yeah I know what you mean and can relate to that sentiment.
I do have a friend who seems to really enjoy taking 150mg at once and just riding that out through the whole day, but he also weighs almost 300 pounds.
Ah, makes more sense. I weigh a little over half of that.
I have yet to take my whole 120mg dose at once and riding it out for the day because I know it'll be pretty intense, but it usually ends up being intense anyways so I honestly don't know the best technique.
Tolerance may play a role.
Anyways, I feel I'm rambling now. I hope I've answered any questions clear enough. Let me know if you have any more! I've gone through a few grams of it in the last year or two so I feel I'm fairly experienced.
Indeed. Thank you so much for all the information. Much appreciated, my guy. Peesh
3-CL-PCP is without a doubt for me personally, one of my favorite all time drugs. I apologize, sometimes I get blinded by the effects it's given me and I tend to forget that people really respond to things differently. 3-CL-PCP is a journey, and a long one and it has like 3 phases. The initial feel good, tactile, euphoric, empathogenic, manic come up and first phase, which later transitions into it's dissociative phase some hours later, which I would describe as almost murky. Very heavy but introspective at high doses. It's helped me make some leaps forward in life and has helped me address some trauma head on that I don't think I'd have been able to otherwise.
