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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy DOC Thread - Third opinion

At the restaurant. I wanted to drop by now due to its duration, but my girlfriend is being “apprehensive” and wants to wait. Regardless I think we’re in for a long day/night.
There's always time, you will manage somehow.
Remember that if the stimulation or bodyload gets a little rough inside, there's always the outside to the rescue!
 
I don’t know. I’m about 3 hours in and am feeling very little activity. Either this is the slowest creep up or the stuff is bunk, but it had good reviews so I’m not sure what’s going on.
 
You should deff be feeling something at this point with 2mgs that doesn't sound right. Just wait it out and see, next time try a little more if this dose isn't working. Maybe you should send some in to get tested somewhere if that is an option?

Sorry that it isn't working out so far, it really is a special drug when it's proper DOC.
 
Yeah man not sure what’s up. Thinking of taking half a tab of lsd. Do they combine well?

Like I definitely feel something, but it’s very mild so I’m thinking a half a tab might amp the process up a bit.

Fuck it. Taking half a tab. All I’m getting is mild visual distortions and some weird body load.

Took a whole tab. Let’s see what happens shall we.

Now we are getting somewhere….

I think the doc was weak thus didn’t exert that much in terms of effects. The addition of lsd seemed to spice things up a bit.

Well seems the acid is the only thing that did anything. Super bummed the doc was a dud, but had some fun with some nitrous and the lsd.

For some reason my last few trips have involved very little visuals. I don’t seem to get the intricate, complex, fractal imagery I often got in the past. Fortunately I had some extraordinary experiences with the addition nitrous. Insane visual, tracers that slowly dissolved in my view. Feelings of traveling forward in time and then going back in the past
 
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Yeah man not sure what’s up. Thinking of taking half a tab of lsd. Do they combine well?

Like I definitely feel something, but it’s very mild so I’m thinking a half a tab might amp the process up a bit.

Fuck it. Taking half a tab. All I’m getting is mild visual distortions and some weird body load.

Took a whole tab. Let’s see what happens shall we.

Now we are getting somewhere….

I think the doc was weak thus didn’t exert that much in terms of effects. The addition of lsd seemed to spice things up a bit.

Well seems the acid is the only thing that did anything. Super bummed the doc was a dud, but had some fun with some nitrous and the lsd.

For some reason my last few trips have involved very little visuals. I don’t seem to get the intricate, complex, fractal imagery I often got in the past. Fortunately I had some extraordinary experiences with the addition nitrous. Insane visual, tracers that slowly dissolved in my view. Feelings of traveling forward in time and then going back in the past

What was the blotter print on the DOC?
 
What was the blotter print on the DOC?
I’m trying to upload to the forum, but I’ve never done that before so not sure how to convert it to a url. I’m working out it, but by description alone they are moderately sized off white blotters that says DOC 2mg on each tab and part of the bottom sheet has the actual molecule printed on. I see a carbon double bound of the benzene ring and part of another carbon bond that extends towards where I believe the primary amine bond would be if The whole sheet were intact.

I uploaded the link not sure if it’s visible. I ate the double bond part so it’s not there any more

 
The blotters tasted bitter, but Besides som minor body load sensations and nearly imperceptible visual distortions nothing happened. The addition of lsd at the 4 hour mark felt like it was perhaps 1.5x stronger than what it would feel like if I had taken it alone.

Not sure why they were weak. I bought them a year ago before a certain site got shut down and the vendor received a good amount of positive remarks.

Made a rookie mistake of licking the remnants of an old powdered etizolam bag to get some sleep last night and nearly blacked out. Thought max there’d be 6 mg in the bag, but must have been far more as I didn’t wake up til 230pm the next day. Sure This will do wonders for trying to continue my benzo taper.
 
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The blotters tasted bitter, but Besides som minor body load sensations and nearly imperceptible visual distortions nothing happened. The addition of lsd at the 4 hour mark felt like it was perhaps 1.5x stronger than what it would feel like if I had taken it alone.

Not sure why they were weak. I bought them a year ago before a certain site got shut down and the vendor received a good amount of positive remarks.

Made a rookie mistake of licking the remnants of an old powdered etizolam bag to get some sleep last night and nearly blacked out. Thought max there’d be 6 mg in the bag, but must have been far more as I didn’t wake up til 230pm the next day. Sure This will do wonders for trying to continue my benzo taper.
I'm fairly certain i have those same blotters (same font, same letters and numbers, same bleeding of the ink, also had part of the chemical structure but a different part). i took 3mg and had a weaker than expected trip, except I appear to be a hardhead so i was expecting to have a weaker than expected trip. now im wondering if they were underdosed.
 
I'm fairly certain i have those same blotters (same font, same letters and numbers, same bleeding of the ink, also had part of the chemical structure but a different part). i took 3mg and had a weaker than expected trip, except I appear to be a hardhead so i was expecting to have a weaker than expected trip. now im wondering if they were underdosed.
Ah so it appears I’m not the only one. I’m also a bit of a hard head, but my girlfriend is most definitely not. She experienced some body tension and that’s about where it stopped as well. I bet if I took 2-3 tabs nothing notable would have occurred.

Ugh so pissed it was bunk. I really had some high expectations for this compound. Least I had a couple tabs of good lsd so the night wasn’t a complete loss.

Now I want to try to place another order from a different source.
 
Damn bro I was actually planning on getting some blotters soon that are the same print from a vendor, they say DOC and 2mg on them I was told. That is really unfortunate because it is a good deal and now I'm thinking I should just invest the money in a sheet of LSD instead. I've already got a vial with 30mgs of DOC in it so it's not like I don't have any at all. Just really wanted to stock up cuz it's one of my favorite drugs. Suppose I will have to wait until more powder becomes available eventually, I'm sure it will.

Actually heard there is some DOB powder available which I'm honestly even more interested in cuz the last batch I had turned out to be DOC, very high quality but not the DOB I hoped it would be. If I could get my hands on a nest egg of both of those I'd be quite the happy camper indeed...
 
Ah so it appears I’m not the only one. I’m also a bit of a hard head, but my girlfriend is most definitely not. She experienced some body tension and that’s about where it stopped as well. I bet if I took 2-3 tabs nothing notable would have occurred.

Ugh so pissed it was bunk. I really had some high expectations for this compound. Least I had a couple tabs of good lsd so the night wasn’t a complete loss.

Now I want to try to place another order from a different source.
really glad to hear this so I can be cautious in the future if I get a different batch. I tested it with 6 reagents and the color changes were all what they should be, so it probably is DOC
 
I found another source offering 2mg tabs laid on different looking paper, but am hesitant due to its low price and the fact that the vendor name sounds vaguely similar.

I guess I’ll just get some lsd to be safe.
 
I've seen a listing for a gram of the powder for about a 100 bucks, which is a good deal. I worry that it may be a scam though, as the vendor also lists DOB, a scheduled substance. I've seen gargantuan quantities being sold for around the 500 dollar plus range. It's honestly really hard to pinpoint what's real and what's fake. I like DOM and hear pretty commonly that DOC is just a better compound, but procuring it is a bit difficult. Vendors selling pills and tabs are doing markups of exponential percentages. Also they still do innacurate doses.
I'll keep an eye out for better listings, but as it is right now, a weeks wages isn't worth 1000 lifetimes use of this substance lol. Well maybe it is, but I won't be able to use it all.
 
Big sad. I suspect they may be underdosed or unevenly laid. 2mg should be a good starting dose. Your experience sounds like what I would experience from a sub 1mg dose.
 
I've had the same experience with DOC pills from a popular DN vendor, even took two which should have been 4mg total but didn't really come up. It did keep me up for 24 hours though.

A very annoying drug to have an under dose with as well, considering it's long duration.

Hopefully I can get my hands on some powder one day. Have seen DOB powder for sale but I don't think it will deliver quite what I'm hoping for from DOC.
 
I've had the same experience with DOC pills from a popular DN vendor, even took two which should have been 4mg total but didn't really come up. It did keep me up for 24 hours though.

A very annoying drug to have an under dose with as well, considering it's long duration.

Hopefully I can get my hands on some powder one day. Have seen DOB powder for sale but I don't think it will deliver quite what I'm hoping for from DOC.
I bought DOB powder and it turned out it was DOC.

Don't underestimate DOB, it's stronger in every way and can be extremely pleasuring. You'll find some glowing reports on Erowid.
 
I've seen a listing for a gram of the powder for about a 100 bucks, which is a good deal. I worry that it may be a scam though, as the vendor also lists DOB, a scheduled substance. I've seen gargantuan quantities being sold for around the 500 dollar plus range. It's honestly really hard to pinpoint what's real and what's fake. I like DOM and hear pretty commonly that DOC is just a better compound, but procuring it is a bit difficult. Vendors selling pills and tabs are doing markups of exponential percentages. Also they still do innacurate doses.
I'll keep an eye out for better listings, but as it is right now, a weeks wages isn't worth 1000 lifetimes use of this substance lol. Well maybe it is, but I won't be able to use it all.

If they're clear net and listing DOB, I would suspect a scam. If it's not clearnet... then DOB is currently available so it could be real.
 
A bit of (at least temporary) good news today regarding the DEA’s plan to include DOC and DOI into Schedule I of the CSA (per Marijuana Moment):

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) is again retreating on a proposed ban on psychedelic compounds that scientists say have research value.
In April, the agency published a notice of its intent to place the hallucinogens DOI and DOC in Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), which would strictly criminalize the compounds and create significant research barriers for investigators interested in studying their therapeutic potential.
But after the company Panacea Plant Sciences and researchers from Emory University challenged the scheduling action, DEA has now decided not to defend the planned prohibition. Instead, it announced on Friday that it is withdrawing the proposal altogether.
The notice, which is set to be formally published in the Federal Register on Monday, doesn’t give a specific reason for rescinding the ban of the two phenethylamine hallucinogens. But this marks another win for scientific community, coming just one month after DEA abandoned separate plans to place five tryptamine psychedelics in Schedule I.
[link to story: https://www.marijuanamoment.net/dea...edelics-after-being-challenged-by-scientists/]

Didn‘t even realize that the DEA had announced their intention to schedule these two until I read the article linked above, much to my chagrin. Maybe this was covered earlier in this thread somewhere, and if so, my apologies! But, if not, figured it’d be of interest to some here on BL. Regardless, this decision could ultimately be only be a temporary reprieve, but still, it isn‘t often the Agency backs down at all, so—especially in light of the recent tryptamine U-turn, and the DEA about-face on kratom—it is something. Keep up the good work, y’all!

P.S., I’m including a direct link below to the decision to rescind the proposal:
https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2022-18729.pdf
 
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