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Will Someone Please Explain this Rampant Hateful Aggressive “Gnostic Christianity” to Me?

Xorkoth said:
Well, when you call people "stupid" in a variety of ways when they disagree with you, right when you get back from a ban, you get infracted for using overt personal attacks instead of responding to counter-arguments in a civil and constructive manner. And in doing so, you get another temp ban. It's a shame, because you have the opportunity to be an ambassador for your religion, to show people something they may not have thought of and maybe convert some people to your cause. But personal attacks are against the rules, and furthermore, they cause people to be driven away from your message, thus achieving the opposite of your intended result (in indeed your actual intention is to try to help people by spreading a good message).

Next time, if you're reading this, you are 100% welcome to come back and participate in the forum, if you can manage to stop yourself from attacking people. Same as always.
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If you or the stupid cannot take honest critique, ban me all you want.

It is not like there are any here who are any better than any other place that likes to control the thinking of others.

Regards
DL
 
0.o_LaCuNa_o.0 said:
Guys I'm extremely happy to see conversations regarding religion, when the people posting are very adament about their beliefs. Having a sense of direction & purpose in life is a very healthy thing. That being said, everyone needs to remember that God created us all. We are all the same, yet different. Just like how we can percieve "colors", they are all different to one another but they are still classed as colors. My point here being, is that there will be different people with differing beliefs to you. Just like how the color blue is different than yellow, one is not necessarily better than the other. In certain settings and applications blue might be more sought after, or vice-versa. Your beliefs & religious choices should be a personal thing. You should choose what best suits you, not forgetting that a different belief system might be better & the choice for someone else. I mean, wouldn't it be kinda boring if everyone of us had the exact same beliefs?

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I do not compare colors.

I compare good moral and bad ones.

Rather more important than colors. Right?

Especially when our schools and courts preach equality while the vile religions preach for homophobia and misogyny.

If you are not man enough to show the poor morals in religions, -----

Regards
DL
 
So, is Gnostic Christianity like a reverse ISIS but still focused on moral supremacy ??
 
Electrum1 said:
So, is Gnostic Christianity like a reverse ISIS but still focused on moral supremacy ??
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Sort of, given how, somehow, people let Christians fall into supernatural idol worship of a genocidal, homophobic and misogynous God, that they somehow class as good..

Gnostic Christians are perpetual seekers and seek God constantly.

God here I defined as the best set of rules and laws to live by.

As to moral supremacy, have you ever tried to compare our morals to Christianity's?

I have so many Christians run away, I have to see my laws and rules as superior to theirs.

The ancients who sent the inquisitors, --- to argue with us with swords and fire, --- showed that they could not justify their morals, as they could not argue them.

Supernatural belief made/makes Christians immoral.

Regards
DL
 
I know a few Gnostics, but none of them have this incessant hatred towards other faiths. In fact they are quite good listeners and we can have solid discussions with points made by all sides.
Are you sure you're not just identifying as one? Are Gnostics on some sort of hate spectrum or are you on your own new splinter "Hate Gnostic" sect.?
 
If the genocidal, homophobic and misogynous Christianity were to be destroyed and extinct, what would Gnostic Christians be doing?
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
It is good, except when a God who says he cannot die says he is dying for you.

Such is an obvious lie, that immoral Christians want to believe.

They choose a lie of salvation over the real salvation Jesus presched.

Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation and “I am”, represents the best rules and laws that we have found to live by.

In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.



Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.



The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

Gnosis enlightens adults.

Regards
DL
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I’m confused as to how you can praise the teachings of Jesus yet say that him dying for peoples’ sins is immoral. That’s literally the entire reason for his existence according to the bible. Do you not believe this happened? That it’s just a metaphor or something?? I’m an atheist, I don’t believe any of the bullshit, but that’s why I would never praise any teachings of Jesus. He didn’t do away with any of the horrible laws of the Old Testament in fact he said he came to fulfill them. So I guess I don’t understand why you think there’s any value in the religion if you agree the entire foundation of it is illogical and morally repugnant.
 
So instead of reading the full flowery paragraph about religion while I;m a little tipsy lemmie just state the idea of a christian god either places it as a genocidal maniacal douchebag or other tyrant leader with 0 redeeming qualities...
Judgement placed upon a subject you willingly and intentionally torture marks them as the saint and you as the demon...

Christianity is a religion where the evil judge the good, where lucifer is the the obvious good influence whilst their god is a monster.

Also the quick browse seemed to mention tithes, which as with tax exemptions are the work of the truly evil, hence why the church of satan denies tax exemption status, because it refuses to act in an evil manner...
Being evil and being christian go hand in hand.
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
I know a few Gnostics, but none of them have this incessant hatred towards other faiths.
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Poorly stated and wrong.

To your first claim.

In the Cathar traditions, I am a Parfait. Are those other Gnostics adepts or students?

As to your last, I agree that the great love I have for good morals has me hating the god damned religions that have a poor moral base.

That includes the supernatural believing loony and immoral religious right wing.

You do know that hate is created by love. Right?

Regards
DL
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
In fact they are quite good listeners and we can have solid discussions with points made by all sides.
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Subjective and likely B.S.

Try to get a Christian to do decent apologetics on moral issues and see how fast their solid points turn to immoral water.

What else could come from a genocidal, homophobic and misogynous garbage God?

Here is a challenge for you, or anyone else for that matter.

Show or find one Christian who can argue civilly with me, under your guiding opinion, and make your subjective foolishness objective in at lest one instance.

If it could be done my friend, Christians would not use inquisition tactics even today.

Ask a gay or inferior woman.

Regards
DL
 
Cheshire_Kat said:
Are you sure you're not just identifying as one? Are Gnostics on some sort of hate spectrum or are you on your own new splinter "Hate Gnostic" sect.?
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All Christian and myriad of Abrahamic based cults and religions, including Islam, are slave holding ideologies, and have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions.

Both of our mainstream religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

The Theft of Our Values

Is religion an ideal barometer of Western values or merely an oppressor of them? The conclusions set forth in the documentary The Theft of Our Values...

topdocumentaryfilms.com

Humanity centered religions, good? Yes. Esoteric ecumenist Gnostic Christianity being the best of these.

Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes.

Islam and Christianity being the worst of these.

Moral people will agree.

Regards
DL
 
Electrum1 said:
If the genocidal, homophobic and misogynous Christianity were to be destroyed and extinct, what would Gnostic Christians be doing?
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Celebrating that things have returned to the better ancient thinking of what God is.

Over the years, the wiser have said that the only good Christian was a Gnostic Christian.

They are and were correct and if thigs do go as predicted, Gnostic will not be the minority.

We will become the moral majority.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental efforts that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2

Further.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.



Regards
DL
 
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