☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: If 2020 Was the Dumpster, Can 2021 Be the Fire?

[Xorkoth]

2-FMA is a good low-dose Adderall replacement, very similar, but longer lasting. Also it has a ceiling effect which prevents abuse from chasing the high (if that's a problem for you). It's a very good functional stimulant.

4-FMA is a very good euphoric stimulant, similar to meth and 4-FA, less rolly than 4-FA and also more like a classic stim. 3-FMA is alright, not worth it IMO.

 

[Pfafffed]

I do miss 2-FA. What's around is cut with something, maybe something along the lines of lidocaine? Who knows, the vendors haven't been able to separate it out.

It was nice, though. It's hard to find an easygoing, clearheaded functional stimulant with a sweet spot duration (long enough to get stuff done, short enough to go to sleep on time, and minimal crash period.) 2-FMA is a good drug, too, but it's mostly physical and not very cerebral for me. Maybe if it were enantiopure it would be better.

I agree with Cream Gravy. It seems like there's no shortage of benzo and opioid analogues coming out, but the novel psychedelics aren't as compelling a case for manufacture. I guess there have been a lot of duds recently, which makes them both forgettable and harder to take risks on.

 

[izo]

i too liked 2fa, come to think of it i found it to be a good bit stronger than 2-fma. but both are good amphetamine alternatives that lack the side effects of most cathinones which are so widespread. 4fma i found lacklustre, 4fa was way better.

 

[Kaden_Nite]

I agree with Cream Gravy. It seems like there's no shortage of benzo and opioid analogues coming out, but the novel psychedelics aren't as compelling a case for manufacture. I guess there have been a lot of duds recently, which makes them both forgettable and harder to take risks on.

Bromo-dragonfly and the 25-nboxx range didn't do any favours for psychedelic RCs.

There's an accepted level of behavioural (benzos) and mortal (opioids) risk taken by users of certain drugs.

Overdosing, as in actually ODing, on psychedelics was relatively quite rare before. That's not an occupational hazard that people are prepared to roll the dice on when they eat a tab or wish to try a new phenethylamines derivative.

 

[Img_9999]

@Img_9999
What kind of lab work do you do? I’m also a scientist, degrees in biochemistry and i work for a small pharma company doing cell line development. I make the CHO cells that make anti-cancer drugs.

That's cool ! I'm also a biochemist, I work in an institute where we research bacterial and archaeal enzymes, mostly with the aim of finding ones with biotechnological potential and applications in the industry as biocatalysts. We actually have some minor products in the research market, but I can't say a lot more without doxxing myself lol.

Man, so far as I can tell we're entering an era of shitty benzo/opioid analogues. Looking at my preferred bulk vendor the selection is shit, what they do have is overpriced... Hmph. There's more expensive vendors with higher prices that may have what I want but I ain't about to pay a 300% mark-up.

Suddenly I also recalled I haven't stocked up on amphetamines and I'd like to get a stash of those before amp IR scripts disappear too. My cousin gets amps I think... that or MPH, which I'm not keen on. I used to know so many people with amp scripts it didn't even cross my mind but now I'm fairly isolated drug wise.

Yeah, it is coming now that etizolam was scheduled. So stupid that they did. It was one of the safest and best benzos.

 

[perpetualdawn]

I was just reading about the Bengali custom of "adda"

Adda is a beloved pastime that's unique to Kolkata. Markedly different to small talk or chatting, it is best described as an informal group conversation that's long, fluid and relaxed in nature.

"We are not expected to produce something out of an adda," Aditi Ghosh, head of the linguistics department at University of Calcutta, told me. "It is a kind of unplanned mental exercise where we not just talk about ourselves and our families, but we go beyond that. It is about ideas and events happening all around us."

For Bengalis, who are known for their gregariousness and love of talking, engaging in adda is an essential part of the day. Traditionally, a perfect adda should include a little bit of everything – politics, art, literature, science, debate, gossip, jokes, rumours, food, cigarettes and tea – and can take place anywhere: in a private home, a local tea shop, the park or a veranda.

The PD social thread is a bit like adda I reckon - not that I have any direct experience of Bengali adda!

Adda: The secret to Bengali conviviality

Although "adda" is a beloved pastime throughout Kolkata, the long, cerebral conversations that the city is famous for started to become an issue during Covid-19.

www.bbc.com

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Yeah, it is coming now that etizolam was scheduled. So stupid that they did. It was one of the safest and best benzos.

This is mostly what I'm referring to; there used to be fairly good safe benzo and opioid alternatives but they're starting to run dry faster than I can count them now. I've been mostly disappointed in recent benzo outputs and haven't even risked taking any of the recent opioid analogues.

But there are indeed a sad amount of new psychedelics. I don't know; I still like to trip and explore but from what I can tell every psychedelic I'm interested in has been scheduled at this point. Either I have it or there's a black market for it. Much of pikhal/tikhal has been explored.

I'd like to see another breakthrough disso like MXE too. But I doubt that'll ever happen again. I haven't tried the recent analogues but I trust the consensus.

 

[tubgirl.jpg]

Do other people who take very large doses of LSD (or other psychadelics) find they need to pass through a near unconscious state on the come up?

Yeah, on high doses the come up can leave me in almost a catatonic state until it 'kicks over', definitely. Not that it's uncomfortable, it just gets so damn intense I can't focus on anything else than holding on to my socks and pants.

 

[Delsyd]

my cats are cute as fuck.

 

[perpetualdawn]

Yeah especially that brown+white one

 

[Xorkoth]

The brown and white one is so sweet, he rubs on you constantly if you're lucky and he knows you and there aren't too many people around but he can be skittish, and he's so incredibly cute and gorgeous. Statuesque. The other one is a prince, he's more social with everyone and is majestic as well.

my cats are cute as fuck.

I love them.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

I went the old fashioned route, lots of weed and some beers. Made the day honestly.

On 2-FMA, there are definitely a lot of pretty bad batches around that seemed the most common to me. "legit" 2-FMA is strong and taxing, it's a shame I get manic on it cause it is an amazing functional drug. I do wish I got to try 3-FA, it seems it got some hype at some point, but apparently there were some issues with the new synth.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

@TripSitterNZ turned me onto OTT a few months back and I’ve spent time enjoying them on every trip I’ve had since. My only complaint is that there are not enough cool videos on YouTube matched to their music. I really need something congruent to watch and trip on as I listen them.

the trick is to listen to OTT in pure darkness and go inwards not outwards. then you will see something that no video will ever match. I personally love skylon in a dark room and a shit load of acid

 

[Jabberwocky]

the trick is to listen to OTT in pure darkness and go inwards not outwards. then you will see something that no video will ever match. I personally love skylon in a dark room and a shit load of acid

I’ll try that next week once i’m reset again. I just got some blank white blotters from the UK I have high hopes for.

 

[Delsyd]

I went the old fashioned route, lots of weed and some beers. Made the day

I had a similar experience. I went to a concert last week that I would normally take some party drugs for, mdma or lsd or some disso. Instead I only had a couple beers and a delta 8 vape. I had as much fun at the show as I would have had I taken other drugs.
I also took some phenibut, that stuff has a really strong music enhancing quality to it.

 

[Xorkoth]

Phenibut is amazing for music. I take it before every major show we play, or when we're not playing as many shows, like now, before every show (but I always leave at least a week between dosages now to avoid getting dependent again). It truly does help me play better shows because I get in the zone so much more and feel the music more viscerally.

 

[perpetualdawn]

Phenibut is amazing for music. I take it before every major show we play, or when we're not playing as many shows, like now, before every show (but I always leave at least a week between dosages now to avoid getting dependent again). It truly does help me play better shows because I get in the zone so much more and feel the music more viscerally.

Does it impair your motor coordination at all?

 

[tired of crap]

the trick is to listen to OTT in pure darkness and go inwards not outwards. then you will see something that no video will ever match. I personally love skylon in a dark room and a shit load of acid

Skylon is a great album. I’ve had many trips just listening to it through ...And many sober times listening to it through lol

 

[Deleted member 521610]

the peak moment of my entire existence was playing skylon on 250 ug last year. Had total trasncendence of time and space in the the total darkness most spiritual moment to my life on rouge bagel. Fuck skylon is the greatest masterpiece of eletroncia ever produced. It will make you trip b alls to the fucking walls in awe and wonder at how OTT does his magic and takes you on this mega fucking trip i swear. Cant wait till he releases his new album i pray its soon.

 

[AutoTripper]

Good morning guys and at least a good old girl too lol, always nice to have a lady around the place.

So it’s Saturday morning. I used to LOVE Saturday mornings always. We talk about that Friday feeling. Great indeed, double dropping white Butterflies at 5.30 pm after work Friday, warm summer, best company, fantastic ecstasy truly and a great night, except that was another time I was due at Tescos for work 6 am to 4 pm.

I went in that morning, full on ecstasy and skunk tripping, 2 Butterflies easy easy 120 mg’s each, then 3 definite MDA Hexagons, so trippy so strong.

My mind was bent, walking to the store at dawn. Long day. Busiest Saturday of the year, good in a way because all the staff were so swamped I could just do my job in my own world and keep to myself.

Still mental though to be going into a huge packed Saturday supermarket to work with hundreds of straight Co-Workere, totally off it on literally 400 mg’s plus MDA and 240 minimum MDMA.

I was brave. Lol. I’ve hundreds of +++ psychedelic level ecstasy and skunk experiences alone, going into all my jobs never getting caught. That’s holding it down.

2 good acid trips previous week B4 last, last one Sunday. No rush to trip again, but happy to forget about it let it happen in true style each time it does, always as spontaneously as can be.

Just gonna vaporize some Sativa Mexican Airlines from this summer. Knocked out on kava already and stoned too, will be a premature end to this Saturday I think.