☮ Social ☮ PD Social Talk Thread: If 2020 Was the Dumpster, Can 2021 Be the Fire?

[AutoTripper]

So I did just eat some acid. Not much, about 177 mics.

Wasn’t planning it. Nothing in my life is planned, it’s so spontaneous. Like, practically purely.

I decided in the circumstances, all current needs required, a 25 ug dose to supplement my weed and kava tonight and provide some energy….

I then took another 52 about, persuading myself it was justified.

I then persuaded myself quite quickly to take another 100.

Gonna grind some nice Bluedream for a vape now. Shouldn’t be too much on this dose.

 

[psy997]

What do you mean MOA? Same as ROA?

Mechanism of action.

 

[telepathetic]

San Pedro can definitely be that skinny, or even skinnier. Of course it can be fatter too. I can't ID them, columnar cacti are tricky to ID.

Know anything about this predominant cultivar/clone that's sterile of itself and apparently so inbred that it's lost most alkaloid content, very mild to no mescaline? PEOPLE apparently call it pachaNo

 

[Deleted member 521610]

fuck ketamine is addictive getting another gram but gonna store it away for a few months just making sure i have some for the future.

 

[Kaden_Nite]

I am kind of pissed, feel like I gotta ripped off. This is too skinny to be pedro.

Can anyone ID?

Also it's PC predominant cultivar/clone which I hear is nearly inactive.

Feel like if I eat them all i will just puke.

That is most likely pachanoi, but I still have no idea what 'PC Pachanoi' is or why it is supposedly so widely grown in US if it is so undesirable.

I have occasionally seen Pachanoi 'PC' for sale in Australia, usually in lots containing considerably large amounts (like 20x one metre long cuts). It is usually described as 'grafting cactus' (which would suggest low potency to me). Rarely, I see hybrids listed (PC Pachanoi X Fields Peruvians for example).

I'm still not sure if any one cultivar or variety is 'PC Pachanoi' or if it is a loose term for varieties which are abundant or fast growing, but weak.

It's winter here so I'm not planting these yet. Just for an example of some varying looks of different Pachanoi, here are four different cultivars from four different sellers

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

I'm in a psychiatric hospital guys, hopefully for less than a month. I'm manic off the bat so perfect timing as big cycling should speed up diagnosis.
It'll be unbelievably boring no doubt, my goals are 2100 elo in chess and 200 push ups in 25 minutes.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

wishing you all the best buzz hang in there. you got any books to read?

 

[Jabberwocky]

I'm in a psychiatric hospital guys, hopefully for less than a month. I'm manic off the bat so perfect timing as big cycling should speed up diagnosis.
It'll be unbelievably boring no doubt, my goals are 2100 elo in chess and 200 push ups in 25 minutes.

I really hope it goes well for you mate and that you get some answers and some relief.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Thanks guys, I can't read books sadly, I get super distracted and often have to re-read pages.
My roommate is an old dude, he's very down so it's a complete mismatch but he should be gone any day now apparently. It's gonna be much more boring than I thought, but at least the internet is quite good... aand there's a ping pong table, which I'm really good at so I hope these dudes know how to play.

 

[AutoTripper]

Yeah…. @Buzz Lightbeer I’m actually lost for words. Never been to one of those places. I’d like to actually for a little stay away, change of environment and routine to get my head together.

Obviously it’s no holiday. You seem to be embracing it admirably without losing your sense of humour too.

Chess isn’t so bad either. Even 40 days flies by once you get acquainted with a routine.

And push ups is time well spent too, give you some endorphins, what really we are supposed to be “on” and in many ways still the best and cleanest buzz of all right?

At least also, you’re still HERE (I’m not lol), and hope you get stabilised and at peace in due time.

 

[AutoTripper]

Thanks guys, I can't read books sadly, I get super distracted and often have to re-read pages.
My roommate is an old dude, he's very down so it's a complete mismatch but he should be gone any day now apparently. It's gonna be much more boring than I thought, but at least the internet is quite good... aand there's a ping pong table, which I'm really good at so I hope these dudes know how to play.

Haha, Im the same. The number of books I started reading, never finished.

Like, I can barely read a paragraph before so much associative imagery is stirred up Im off to Neptune again in a philosophical ponder.

I am definitely partially dyslexic though. And mega brain damage has to count as another valid excuse?

 

[Xorkoth]

I sometimes get into that mode where I try to read too fast and have to re-read pages. I do tend to ready very fast though, I saw an interesting graphic where they swapped around the interior letter order in words but left the first and last letters in place, and you can read it exactly just as easily, in act my brain fills it in and it looks right if I'm reading at normal speed. Anyway sometimes I go TOO fast and I don't get a visualization in my mind. But when I get into the groove, I stop noticing the words and reading process and just get a picture sort of like I'm watching a movie, except much more detailed and not tied to sight and sound. Utterly immersive.

Good luck Buzz, I'll be thinking about you.

 

[AutoTripper]

I sometimes get into that mode where I try to read too fast and have to re-read pages. I do tend to ready very fast though, I saw an interesting graphic where they swapped around the interior letter order in words but left the first and last letters in place, and you can read it exactly just as easily, in act my brain fills it in and it looks right if I'm reading at normal speed. Anyway sometimes I go TOO fast and I don't get a visualization in my mind. But when I get into the groove, I stop noticing the words and reading process and just get a picture sort of like I'm watching a movie, except much more detailed and not tied to sight and sound. Utterly immersive.

Good luck Buzz, I'll be thinking about you.

Exactly, it’s the picture in my mind that keeps compelling me away from the words.

 

[SKL]

24” of San Pedro should be a good dose. I think 12” is a pretty standard low dose trip. If you don’t get a terrible body load from it then it will be just as good as L for dancing. Mescaline is a very pleasant, clear headed trip, with a slight push towards positive thoughts.
Its been years since I’ve had any and it’s been on my mind a lot lately. I have some 2c-b and MAL to scratch that itch but am really trying to manifest some mescaline in my life.

I've never done cactus (was never interested in the San Pedro and stuff like that although I probably would've taken peyote if offered) so I don't know a lot about them but I always found it interested that people measured dose by length. Is it better than measuring by weight and if so I wonder why, must have to do with the distribution of the good stuff in the plant. Which is part of why I was never really into plant drugs. Dosing too difficult and they mostly taste gross.

I’ve often wondered too, if something is caustic at the point of insertion how far does that caustic action intrude upon the body?

Depends on how much we're talking about and what route. The stomach will neutralize a lot of things but if the pH is way off in either direction you can get in trouble. By injection we're usually talking about small amounts which get diluted fairly quickly if given IV. But something like Thorazine can have a pH as low as 3.4 which can be a problem when it's given i.m. (you get nasty red sterile abscesses.) especially repeatedly as you can see with some very hardcore psych patients.

k-hole is the true time travelling shit man ketamine is cooked

lol, the “shaman”

I find LSD by itself a very manageable experience compared to cannabis.

Compared to a lot of cannabis, definitely*. Particularly oral route. When you get beyond the sort of cloudy aesthetically-enhanced semi-euphoria into what might actually be construed as mild psychedelic effects it is actually pretty hardcore. I went through phases of seriously disliking it because of it's anxiogenic nature and other phases in which I found that the thoughts that I had under the influence which I perceived as the anxiogenic effects were more like unconscious anxieties coming to the forefront which I could somehow manifest and deal with better by knowing what they were, something I could achieve better when stoned. Who knows. But yeah, weed is a good one for bringing up these anxious thought patterns. Especially social anxiety shit for me. LSD on the other hand is often too grandiose and abstract to go there at least for me. That leads to problems of it's own (to wit, [hypo]mania) but not the same kinds of anxiety problems as marijuana.

*and a lot for someone who isn't into that isn't that much. I tried that shatter shit one time and was very close to saying "fuck it" and getting myself admitted inpatient psych was how bad it was. because I Don't have a stratospheric tolerance I suppose but I can't imagine having such a tolerance you just smoke that shit all the time. I mean, fuck.

I always think about Vietnam during the war as the best ‘setting’ ever for going off the psychadelic deep end. Not sure it supported great ‘set’ though.

I suspect there is something to this and I would love to hear what it was like to drop acid there because I know a not-insignificant number of the dudes were doing it. Something about the life-and-death apocalyptic nature of it all would have certainly rendered it an interesting experience. Some people probably freaked the fuck out but then, again due to the abstract and peculiar nature of the directions that an acid trip takes you on, perhaps fewer people were worrying about getting shot or shooting people than you might think. If I was there and dosing I kind of suspect I would be thinking on how it all flowed together in some starkly beautiful way or something like that. That was always where my mind went when I thought about bad shit that would happen tripping.

I get manic too, but unfortunately it's never that "on top of the world" feeling that a lot of people with bipolar seem to enjoy. It's more of just a racing mind and an inability to relax.

A lot of people don't even realize this is mania. Mania needn't have euphoria. It can be dysphoric even. Certainly anxious and paranoid.

admit myself to a psychiatric institution for a full diagnosis for a while. Probably gonna be really really boring.

At least you live somewhere with a functioning psychiatric system. There were a few states in the US that used to, but they are pretty much all gone now. It is a national shame.

gonna take some shots and some more edibles this afternoon

lmao

I received two new types of acid from my super reliable DNM guy after he ran out of the calfornia needlepoint that had been so magnificent. No idea which is which.

Neither does he. That's all marketing.

I have been awake for 24 hours. Had some good fun seeing friends.

Were they really there or no?

Woah. How can you even see to type!?

That was always a weird thing for me. Typing or even driving (I know, I know) if you do enough of it becomes so engrained that I feel like some part of your brain that does visual processing is interacting with the part of the brain that does the motor stuff on a level that bypasses the visual hallucinations although you're totally unaware of it. Just spitballing though.

Yes, by £500 I meant…session one!

And it might be 5 or 6 sessions only so that equates.

Now, I, would be perfectly happy to conduct such a therapeutic healing regimen using ketamine, at home, by my own guidance.

With MDMA similar scenarios in therapy, I think it’s potentially far more important to have that controlled setting, assurance, support, direction etc.

As using MDMA in solidarity is potentially very troublesome for mental health balance…I know.

Ketamine is very different here.

I mean, once on it, everything and one in your surroundings virtually ceases to affect, influence or guide your own experience, although recreationally you can stay connected, engage, and real, life like shared vivid and memorable group hallucinations in K holes are a very real thing too.


Ketamine, just washes away. It doesn’t need coaching, counselling, integrating the same way, IMO.

Self control, sensible dosage, commitment to desired outcome all important.

Maybe even the outside service, support of a drug organisation such as one I will plan to visit myself very soon to seek advice from a team of doctors and nurses specialising in drug addiction as I have just dropped my insane Benzo use heavily with hopes to taper down safely shortly.


But, I do feel sensible, purposeful and positively minded ketamine use, at home, alone or with any good friends, can be done safely, and divinely enjoyably, to great effect at washing away trauma, cuts, scrapes…crap! Lol.

I really believe it’s one thing that could help myself so much with the insane bizarre conditions, irregularities, and especially some serious longterm conditioning from intense living and trauma- ptsd in a different way really. You don’t need to go to wars or be abused to acquire chronic trauma from stress, IMO.

So…wicked news. Mum just going to bed (not that, but…yeah, haha.)

She DID put the brolly over our Autoflowers, rainy patch. Saves exhausted me the look out and brolly up task phew. From my bedroom, just now:

Yeah, ketamine doesn't belong in the category with MDMA or psychedelic "therapy," which I would prefer that people refer to properly as "psychotherapy" but facilitated by drugs. Because the drugs are a key component but they are about facilitating both insight and rapport with the therapist. Ketamine needs none of that. It's effects are under-studied but it is having a direct antidepressant effect on the brain. It does not need to be mediated by anything. Just by doing the K you get that effect, context doesn't matter. You might experience some euphoria or even some imagined insight while under the influence but it doesn't matter.

@Xorkoth DOC is a great festival drug. I haven't ever been able to do the long weekend of straight partying with no sleep... After about 40 hours I get... Mentally lost.

Lowish doses, right? A great canvas to paint with other drugs (LSD included, that was a cool combo). Good for fighting fatigue too (and hunger, I could never really eat at festivals other than maybe once)

i dont think ill acid again for a long time maybe years but you never know what life might throw at you. i been given all the tools to live a successful life now.

if there is one thing i learnt on my trip was that there is no escape from suffering no enlightenment. Instead we just have to accept the realities of life its hard and there is going to be alot of suffering but to remain firm in our virtues our values stay true to ourselves accept the pain in the moment

Pretty based take.

man kind of want more ket but i cant afford it lol. Though ket is a pure escape.

It is, isn't it? I remember a curious encounter with some wook at I believe it would've had to have been a Phil show in maybe 2009 or 2010, Jones beach maybe. But this guy is walking in circles near the bathroom and shouting "the age of LSD is over, it is now the age of K" which in addition to the fact that really cheap K was flooding the scene at the time had a certain ring of truth to it as K always felt kind of iPhone-like to me due to a certain minimalist and cybernetic aesthetic that the experience has. Something about it is incredibly fitting to our time or that time. It's very Web 2.0.

i will always love LSD for what it did for me even through all the darkness. In the end i managed to make it the other side a better person. I aint gonna lie there is a part of me that wants to just take it and take it but i got my addiction under control. I feel like i could now handle 1000 ug again but idk man if i will learn anything worthwhile. gonna be a hard semester next time so maybe ill end up tripping in two months if I'm feeling beaten down.

Something draws me to that place i went to man. That was the fucking next level. Forged myself a new path deep down in that bizarre land i went to.

lol look at the post you just made and make up your mind

Man i am never doing psychedelics without ketamine again that shit was the best. It deepened my love for life.

It is a great combo and I'm not even sure if I could have a bad experience combing the two. A purist would say it rather dampens the fullness of the LSD experience though. But fuck that, right?

San Pedro can definitely be that skinny, or even skinnier. Of course it can be fatter too. I can't ID them, columnar cacti are tricky to ID.

which me brings back to my first question, if they're skinny or fat why are people measuring them by length not weight? genuinely curious.

So I did just eat some acid. Not much, about 177 mics.

LMAO are you even serious right now? not only "not 150, not 200" but "not 175, not 180?"

I sometimes get into that mode where I try to read too fast and have to re-read pages. I do tend to ready very fast though, I saw an interesting graphic where they swapped around the interior letter order in words but left the first and last letters in place, and you can read it exactly just as easily, in act my brain fills it in and it looks right if I'm reading at normal speed.

sort of like what I was saying about typing while having visuals I think

 

[Xorkoth]

Holy shit there has been a dumpster fire at work this week. Our survey software platform developed serious issues that have caused a huge productivity problem. And the company who provides the service basically told us it was our problem and not on their end. They also told us no other clients are having issues, even though all the people we talk to from other companies who use them are having the same issues. They told us to try shutting down half of our business (the one that uses some integration that is causing the problem) and that solved the problem, and they were like okay then we're good, there's no problem. Uh... no. Half our business is shut down! And then today it started being a problem again even with half the business shut down. So our CEO contacted their CEO and suddenly it's their first priority and it's their problem... they "found out what it might be". There is no ETA on a fix, they are just investigating. We're going to upgrade to a more expensive server model in hopes it will patch the problem... we need to anyway soon.

Glad they are working with us now though because my boss was so pissed off she was saying we might switch software platforms AGAIN... last time I headed the switch and worked like 60 hour weeks for a year, learned it, rewrote all of our modules and stuff, and trained my coworkers. And they're still learning and I still have to help often. Was about to have a heart attack with that shit...

Exactly, it’s the picture in my mind that keeps compelling me away from the words.

For me though, my brain processes the words but they stop being conscious, so it's not distracting, but rather immersing.

 

[AutoTripper]

LMAO are you even serious right now? not only "not 150, not 200" but "not 175, not 180?"

Is it really so hard to imagine? I’ve never before had such full confidence in the accuracy, consistency and precision of the blotters dosage.

I’m also very good at gauging more or less exactly what portion of a tab I’m taking.

It was a sure 1.75 tabs, plus an extra small tear, probably a few mics worth.

So was just being fully transparent, and specific.

 

[AutoTripper]

Holy shit there has been a dumpster fire at work this week. Our survey software platform developed serious issues that have caused a huge productivity problem. And the company who provides the service basically told us it was our problem and not on their end. They also told us no other clients are having issues, even though all the people we talk to from other companies who use them are having the same issues. They told us to try shutting down half of our business (the one that uses some integration that is causing the problem) and that solved the problem, and they were like okay then we're good, there's no problem. Uh... no. Half our business is shut down! And then today it started being a problem again even with half the business shut down. So our CEO contacted their CEO and suddenly it's their first priority and it's their problem... they "found out what it might be". There is no ETA on a fix, they are just investigating. We're going to upgrade to a more expensive server model in hopes it will patch the problem... we need to anyway soon.

Glad they are working with us now though because my boss was so pissed off she was saying we might switch software platforms AGAIN... last time I headed the switch and worked like 60 hour weeks for a year, learned it, rewrote all of our modules and stuff, and trained my coworkers. And they're still learning and I still have to help often. Was about to have a heart attack with that shit...



For me though, my brain processes the words but they stop being conscious, so it's not distracting, but rather immersing.

It’s more a case of it being so visually stimulating. I’m constantly drawn into a world of images inside my head which becomes more interesting to me than the actual,book.

 

[Xorkoth]

It's pretty much impossible to lay blotter where every single tab is exactly right on. due to the drying process as it gets near the end. Even my buddy who lays blotter and is really good at it says they vary by 10% best case scenario, easy.

 

[Deleted member 521610]

wonder how a microdose would effect the k-hole. whats up with all the new age kids who won't take LSD but only mushrooms and then only small fucking amounts of them lol but rail back shit loads of ket. fucking pussies lol. Met this girl who told me she was spiritual and her bf lmao eats 1 g of mushrooms max but does loads of ket. i just laughed in her face lol. At least be real and know your doing hard chemical drugs i don't find ketamine spiritual at all its clinical and pure hedonism with a major potetional of abuse which could distort your view of reality by alot.

im still recovering from this trip man and that lack of sleep.

Going to spend the weekend getting my application together and see where it leads.

 

[Buzz Lightbeer]

Things are exceedingly boring here. I make it rough on myself by having so much energy, including myself in everything and not shutting the fuck up. So it's intense. Some cool people here but the overall ambiance is kinda depressing.

They also took my phone because I have a "history" with drugs, otherwise I might call my drug dealer or something, only get an allotted time a day. Hello mr. mailman.