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the day somebody works out to make LSD from gentically engineered yeast will be insane imagine just having a constant on flow tap of LSD been made. It would bring the price right down and flood the globe again.

My love for LSD will never die off. Though it will be sad when i have to put to the side one day. I always thought i could do LSD til the day i die but eventually i just seen so much and had so many peak experinces that it does become less satisfying unless doing huge doses
 
Epic post right here about DPT from @Dondante
Including snippets from some of my fav TRs
Seriously gotta try this one soon...
There seems to be an incredible polarity to the DPT experience. In my experience, the character of the drug seems to be altogether different at high doses, but my experience is limited. Dose-related or not, DPT reports certainly reflect the extraordinary variability in experiences ... from divinely beautiful to downright gruesome. Below are some expertly articulated examples from both ends of the spectrum.

Jamshyd:
"... And of course, with the sudden implosion, all human constructs of the universe were RIPPED away, and all was left bare. There was nothing to be differentiated from nothing. It was all the same. The “pealing away” of the world was characterized as a familiar motif: a dome like that of the pantheon’s (with a hole on top – I’ll get to that in a minute), but instead of crevices, there were shimmering golden eyes staring directly at me. They are actually more comforting than scary. There was intense light coming in from the infinity from which the circular opening at the top ensued.

There is a Gnostic text, The Hypostasis of the Archons, that expressed this vision very well:

"The <great> angel came down from the heavens and said to her, "Why are you crying up to God? Why do you act so boldly towards the holy spirit?"
Norea said, "Who are you?" The rulers of unrighteousness had withdrawn from her.
He said, "It is I who am Eleleth, sagacity, the great angel who stands in the presence of the holy spirit. I have been sent to speak with you and
save you from the grasp of the lawless. And I shall teach you about your root."
(Norea apparently now speaking) Now as for that angel, I cannot speak of his power: his appearance is like fine gold and his raiment is like snow.
No, truly, my mouth cannot bear to speak of his power and the appearance of his face!”
And indeed, my mouth fails as well beyond this point. I can only say that nothing happened over the next hour, but I say nothing only because all the languages I know are limited to the very human constructs of meaning that have now been stripped away. I will stress though, that it was not a blackout. I actually “remember” it, but as soon as I open my mouth to speak, all that comes out is silence."

Psood0nym:
"... I was at ground level peering into a shifting field of tall grass in moonlight. Diaphanous tigers crisscrossed my field of vision and wound through the undergrowth, their black stripes transformed into transparent fissures cut clean through their bodies. Then, in one fractional moment, the wind parted the grass and the tiger's ruptured stripes marshaled in line so that I could suddenly see a great distance through both the tigers and the field. That world froze and I flew through the divide and into empty night. Everything turned inside out with a terrible ripping sound and an electric jolt, and I hovered above it as a bare locus hearing my own disbelieving utterances: "that was it!" "this is it!"--yet I provided no impetus to those words. They were the rustle of grass shifting in the wind."

Nuages Gris (erowid report):
"... I could not connect to the gaian mind, not even synthetically. Nevertheless, it did seem to have a character. It hid itself in kaleidoscopes, in cognitive telemetry, in emotions and stimuli, in synchronicity and auditory phantasms, only to pop out when I least suspected it and assert itself and its views. Slowly me and it collided in a crunching wreck and began to claw at each other's reality, clinging, destroying, intertwining in an ill-conceived sado-masochistic tangle. We couldn't reconcile with each other. My ego was taken and twisted, reformed into a thousand things at the whim of the alien force possessing me. I not only became foreign translations of self, but animals, objects, planets, hallucinations, concepts, energy, nothingness, and everything. These feelings, these dramas of the transmutating soul condensed into visual metaphors which re-formed into new selves and spawned another set of synesthetic stimuli. I was adrift in an unstoppable self-transforming cascade of ontological undulations.

I felt an anti-nirvanic imperative, the titanic struggle of the me split into yin-yang, the DOer and the BEer refusing to unify. It was the messiest ego death I’ve ever undergone - splintered bone and gristle still floating around in anthropomorphic parodies of the first person. My mind had been turned inside out and was subject to brutal scrutiny. The inversion exposed a hundred anxieties I didn't know I had."

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=30698
In my one experience with the drug, recollection of 40 mg IM brings forth adjectives like "plush", "velvety", or "ethereal" ... then, with the addition of 50 mg IM at one hour (for a total of 90 mg), words like "sinister" or "insectoid" come to mind. Amazing drug ...

<3
 
Apparently HXE has been released, and because I am sucker for punishment I am making one last attempt at getting a stash of these new MXE analog dissociatives.
I feel like I rate my chances as being 1 in 3 that it'll actually arrive. I hope it does. I've been hurt too many times. I need to learn to love again...
 
the day somebody works out to make LSD from gentically engineered yeast will be insane imagine just having a constant on flow tap of LSD been made. It would bring the price right down and flood the globe again.

My love for LSD will never die off. Though it will be sad when i have to put to the side one day. I always thought i could do LSD til the day i die but eventually i just seen so much and had so many peak experinces that it does become less satisfying unless doing huge doses
Yeah I feel you on that. So arrogantly, I also felt I could keep ingesting any old amount through time.

I mean, I even started sweating about my tabs not lasting a lifetime- I stopped acquiring last year when I felt I had maybe a lifetime’s worth.

But now I view it as having not a shelf life, I expect to lose barely a microgram over years at current storage- (my unsealed, unfridged tabs lost nothing over 18 months ish), let alone better air tightness, foil, film tight wrap, loads silica packs in squeezed air baggies in mason jar fridged.

But it has a sanity life! About 330 plus tabs into that- estimated life supply. I feel pretty rocked at points. An experience of nature and intensity I’ve not quite known before.

At the least I need to space put more now. So 1000 tabs may have been enough we’ll see, woozy me these years lol!

I’ll be really interested actually @TripSitterNZ to see how your path goes regarding this.

Maybe like me, LSD doesn’t have to go, just a break, less frequent, no very heavy trips for a while- 250 ug is a good max dose for that I feel.

Well see. In some ways, we’re in the same boat. Charting the unknown. V diff life situations too. I feel very very.....how to say it? From quite heavy LSD use of late.

People talk about tolerance etc. Well I say- (I never did this myself thank God, always been sensible lol!) take 100 tabs in a week and tell me after you feel every bit as grounded and functional after the first 10 tabs stopped all sunsequent doses from having any effect.

I would be really interested though, for science, in a BL poll- exactly how much LSD alll and any members take here, across the board.

NOT as a contest. Just very curious.
 
I would be really interested though, for science, in a BL poll- exactly how much LSD alll and any members take here, across the board.

NOT as a contest. Just very curious.
I would estimate, lifetime, that I have taken maybe between 20 and 25mg of LSD, over around 7 or 8 years. That's no small amount, but I get the feeling I will be in the shallow end of the pool compared to most of our readership here.

That number is going to remain static. Occasionally I get curious but really I have no particular need to dose LSD again in my life. Leaving aside the fact that my lifestyle now necessarily forgoes that kind of drug use, I just don't think that anything good would come from me taking it anymore.

I've never been a behavioral problem as such on acid, but taking acid regularly definitely leads me down the path of questionable decision making and general battiness. Doing it even the once for my first time had me convinced to start living a lifestyle that included becoming rather intimately acquainted with rhe seedy underbelly of the scene and acting crazy in general.

Trust me, sausage is tasty, but the sausage making process is to say the least unpleasant to look at. To take acid again for me would be to uncover this unpleasantness. I got out of that world with my freedom and sanity intact and would very much like to retain both, so I've capped the amount that I plan on taking at whatever I've taken now. Last time I dosed I believe was in 2010.
 
I would estimate, lifetime, that I have taken maybe between 20 and 25mg of LSD, over around 7 or 8 years. That's no small amount, but I get the feeling I will be in the shallow end of the pool compared to most of our readership here.

That number is going to remain static. Occasionally I get curious but really I have no particular need to dose LSD again in my life. Leaving aside the fact that my lifestyle now necessarily forgoes that kind of drug use, I just don't think that anything good would come from me taking it anymore.

I've never been a behavioral problem as such on acid, but taking acid regularly definitely leads me down the path of questionable decision making and general battiness. Doing it even the once for my first time had me convinced to start living a lifestyle that included becoming rather intimately acquainted with rhe seedy underbelly of the scene and acting crazy in general.

Trust me, sausage is tasty, but the sausage making process is to say the least unpleasant to look at. To take acid again for me would be to uncover this unpleasantness. I got out of that world with my freedom and sanity intact and would very much like to retain both, so I've capped the amount that I plan on taking at whatever I've taken now. Last time I dosed I believe was in 2010.
Hey thanks for sharing. That’s a very reasonable amount to be fair, albeit spread a little but still.

Good that you are content n your path now no longer having room for it. I only took about 14.5 mg’s in 6.5 weeks recently and that was very intense comedowns at points. But this is also my 25 th year of LSD use, fittingly!

I’m always totally okay during the trip, just has been increasingly unsettling post days of late.

Edit- I honestly don’t feel like I’ve lost my witts or general mental thinking acuity. Especially verbal social ease and flexibility and flow of language, zero social anxiety whatsoever, no troubling depersonalisation so those are encouraging signs I feel.
 
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I normally don't read trip reports, actually I find them insufferable for the most part, but Jamshyd, Allah yarhemuhu, had a point of view on psychedelics that I always appreciated (RIP to psood too while we're at it.) That was actually a good read.
 
i def lost a bit of sanity taking so much LSD. But also managed to recover to a alright base line quickly within a month of stoppage but still have intense visuals synthetasia in my daily life and smoking any amount of weed is pretty much a 5 hour acid trip for myself.
 
It would bring the price right down and flood the globe again.

You just gotta get out of NZ, the world IS flooded with LSD and it's the cheapest I've ever seen it. :) It's literally everywhere, people give it away at music festivals around here.

RIP to psood too while we're at it

Indeed, RIP good buddy. He wrote the most poetic prose of anyone I can think of in his trip reports.
 
You just gotta get out of NZ, the world IS flooded with LSD and it's the cheapest I've ever seen it. :) It's literally everywhere, people give it away at music festivals around here.



Indeed, RIP good buddy. He wrote the most poetic prose of anyone I can think of in his trip reports.
it is flooded here i guess these days super cheap aswell though people still pay a insane amount of money per tab here from scum dealers. But i hate the psychedelic scene in NZ they are truly fucking bottom feeding bums most of them though the entire society in NZ is extremely fake and two faced so i still clear of most kiwis and hang out with international cultures like asia middle east indians.

Most people i know that still involved heavily with dosing high on psychedelics are all solo everything they do is solo whenever it be yoga or meditation or psychedelics all the communities here are fucked and most people will try scam you tbh or get into really wacky beliefs make my own wacky beliefs look quite tame and normal lol.
 
Damn my job switched around my schedule cuz of Easter and I had to cancel on that girl I feel bad. But ive also been talking to the purple haired sex kitten again past couple days and she seems happy with me about all my progress regarding sobriety. Really hope we keep communication and I can Show her how much she means to me. Really want her back so badly I love that woman very much. Just got my bottles from the clinic and they didnt test me yet again, I just wanna get that over with at this point so I dont need to think about it anymore. Dont have to go back until after Easter so the Weed will deff be outta my system anf I wont have to explain that at least. Things really worked out well for me in regards to that this week just have to stay sober like I have been and it will all come together. Gonna set up another appointment with my therapist because my kitten really wants me to talk about some of the trauma I've been through with someone, she thinks it will help me stay clean so I will give it a shot. I had one session with this guy a month ago and he seemed very nice and understanding.
 
Gonna set up another appointment with my therapist because my kitten really wants me to talk about some of the trauma I've been through with someone, she thinks it will help me stay clean so I will give it a shot. I had one session with this guy a month ago and he seemed very nice and understanding.

Just for reference, therapy is definitely a long term thing, so find a way to make it financially and temporally sustainable for yourself. I was first in therapy after my parents divorce around age 7-8, was in therapy again for two years in high school, and then have been off and on, mostly on, since late 2014, working with three therapists in that time. And every time, it takes at least 2 months of weekly sessions to see results, and the impact keeps getting deeper and deeper the longer you work with someone.

I say all of this to temper expectations of immediate life changing results, because I really love therapy, and think it is one of the few things that could change the world if utilized by everyone.

I don't think the "me" today would like psy997 at my current age if I hadn't done the amount of therapy I've done. Not to ostracize anyone here, but I usually have difficulty maintaining relationships with people that only meditate, or only use psychedelics, without doing therapy, because while those are impactful and growth catalyzing practices/experiences, they don't have the kind of longevity and continuity required to really root out and temporally shift the shadow within an individual, IME. My current roommate is a 15yr+ serious meditation practitioner that's done virtually zero therapy and man, is he difficult to be around.
 
Yeah... therapy has helped me for sure. And my current therapist is a really reasonable guy with a pretty sensible approach rather than just letting me vent about my problems endlessly as has been my experience on a few other occasions.

Only thing I don't think we're going to agree on is the drugs thing, he's also really understanding and nonnudgemental despite me initially really downplaying my drug use. And actually, I guess I asked for it because when given the option I opted for someone with experience in addiction therapy, and I am trying to make it at least 6 months almost sober although I've really been on one the last week or so... so the keyword there is "almost"... but, I don't think we're gonna ever fully align on whether or not drug use other than that recommended by a doctor can be anything but ABuse... also while initially I really enjoyed getting an actual diagnosis of something for the first time ever, my experience on SSRIs so far has been less than stellar. But, I've always been curious about them, so what's the harm. Will see how it goes for a bit.


My current roommate is a 15yr+ serious meditation practitioner that's done virtually zero therapy and man, is he difficult to be around.
Yeah, equally, therapy or even meditation doesn't automatically make one not just a bit of a dick. I know a certain person who has had a fair bit of therapy, and now currently claims to meditate for at least an hour every morning, who mainly only seemed to find validation for a persistent holier-than-thou and fairly repulsive attitude, a lot of the time. That's bad karma for me to say and I regret it already but fuck it, I've slept like shit all week... no doubt courtesy of that mild amphetamine and DCK bender I've been on.

Ran out of DCK yesterday and actually I'm pretty relieved.


the day somebody works out to make LSD from gentically engineered yeast will be insane imagine just having a constant on flow tap of LSD been made.
Hah... it'll happen one day I reckon, if not yeast even, just some genetically modified plant whenever truly reliable ways to test custom genetic code virtually and more powerful descendants of CRISPR come to fruition.

Equally I reckon one day we will re-engineer the human mind such that psychedelic states could be called up or dismissed at will... and at that point no doubt some people would opt to get an LSD gland fitted, which I'm sure should be technically possible, although at that point superior descendants of today's psychedelic arsenal would have been developed also.
 
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Yeah... therapy has helped me for sure. And my current therapist is a really reasonable guy with a pretty sensible approach rather than just letting me vent about my problems endlessly as has been my experience on a few other occasions.

It's really important to have a therapist than can actually utilize useful conceptual models and therapeutic modalities. Just talking every session won't do much IME unless you have nowhere else in your life to share what's inside, and then you just need someone to listen. Otherwise, it takes actual work to heal and shift the psyche, IME.

Yeah, equally, therapy or even meditation doesn't automatically make one not just a bit of a dick. I know a certain person who has had a fair bit of therapy, and now currently claims to meditate for at least an hour every morning, who mainly only seemed to find validation for a persistent holier-than-thou and fairly repulsive attitude, a lot of the time. That's bad karma for me to say and I regret it already but fuck it, I've slept like shit all week... no doubt courtesy of that mild amphetamine and DCK bender I've been on.

That's true, and while I'd initially counter and say that may be a result of bad therapists per what I mentioned above. I will halfway rescind my previous statement with the remembrance of a really important truth (I think): there is no single solution, and humans are better at being idiots than other humans are at helping them :LOL: Half joking on that last piece. But really, broad and generalized statements are pretty much necessarily false.
 
never went and saw a psychologist ever again after my first experince as a 14 year old kid and getting a bunch of shit ones then the last old dude was a fucking predator mantipulater and should of been locked up in a cell or a psych ward himself. So i will never return fuck them all in NZ.
 
Therapy has been a disaster for me tbh. Somehow, out of the say 10 times in the last couple of years I was always hypomanic. This makes therapy so complicated because everything you're saying is slightly delusional and misrepresented. Never had a therapist, except my psychiatrist, that could pick up on all of this which is so key to pierce through that cloud. I tried very hard to explain, write stuff down beforehand when I felt normal, steer the conversation in ways that where I'd think I could learn something.
Every time, given increased self confidence, talkativeness and just energy, I could feel the therapist struggling not knowing how to handle me or which direction to go in, so they'd just let me talk and talk... And since at that point I'd have given up on the conversation, I would indeed just talk and talk, ultimately leaving feeling even more amazing but 50 bucks lighter.

I am aware this is my fault, and I do my best to be open about all of this, but 10/10 times it's just been 50 minutes of me doing all the things out loud that I do in my head anyway while I consciously dismiss any foreign input as superficial. I have not at all figured out how I'm going to tackle this in the future, in an ideal world I wouldn't have to focus so much on guiding everything, and things would grow organically.

Anyway, hypomanic again here, spent the afternoon arguing in CEPS (.....) and enjoying the sun, not all bad, but a waste of time......
 
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My girlfriend has tried a few therapists but never makes it past the third session. She is convinced therapy won't work for her, she says it just makes her feel worse. I told her from what I understand you have to stick with it and yeah, it's gonna be challenging, I don't think anyone ever suggested it would be easy. I went with her the last time she saw a therapist, which the therapist was clearly nor really comfortable with, and she wouldn't even say a word, she just started crying every time she tried to talk. I ended up talking for her, which was weird. The therapist said that it was by far the most she'd learned about my girlfriend so far (third session). The therapist seemed really nice, but afterwards my girl was like "see, she's such a bitch!"

That was a while ago. She's been doing better for a while, since she cut her dad out of her life. But she still has no idea what to do with her life and is quite dissatisfied with life overall. It's sad and frustrating, especially because she seems to undermine her own attempts to do anything about it. It's very much like an addiction, except instead of substances, it's self-defeating thought patterns. Still, she seems a lot more at peace lately. I just wish I didn't feel like I'm always sort of carrying her
 
its sad because the only time they might be good is when you paying them $400 + a hour which i don't have. The public free ones if you even manage to see one are super fucking horrible treat you like shit totally try put words in your life that you did not say.

So my therapy is heroic dose psychedelics
 
Just had my first experience with a plastic straw trying to drink soda. That shit was whack like a motherfucker.
 
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