Pickledlemons
Bluelighter
PS kratom is 100% an opioid and 100% not an opiate. Opiates are drugs that come from the somniferum papauver poppy ( heroin, morphine, codeine, thebaine and... thats about it for significant ones). Opioids are drugs that do not come from the poppy but have a similar effect. People who say that either don't understand what an opioid is or are trying to downplay the risks of kratom for reasons other than finding the truth. Even heroin kind of walks the line of being an opiate since it is (semi-synthetic) and requires some minor adjustments in the lab. HOWEVER, opiates are still considered opioids, because they do behave like themselves
. So IMO that is the best umbrella term to use in most cases.
