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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Eticyclidone / 2‘-Oxo-PCE Thread

Why would you say dpt/eti was a failure? How much/roa did you end up with on both?

Mxe/dpt is combo supreme #1. Plugging them at the same time = same time onset and is amazing.
 
80mg DPT nasal about 20 minutes after 25mg Eticyclidone sub/oral. I got the "tremors" and my day lasted, what felt like 10 days, but not in a "normal" time dilatation... it was different more attention on the time. I didn't get much color.
 
25mg oral today... This stuff without a psychedelic is not the same...

Not a really interesting headspace this time, and I've been a good boy lowering the tolerances, I swear! :(

Maybe I should note that I usually fuel my dissos with weed and beer like a champion, and end the journey with 1ml of GBL. This time I didn't smoked a lot of weed, and regrettably my fridger is empty of beer. A sad day...

I feel this one is a winner for combos, but on its own, it doesn't shine
 
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crOOk said:
I think I halfed both my breakthrough doses and still got amnesia sometimes. It's been a long time, about 10 years, sorry. I *think* 100mg DPT and 15mg PCP was a bit much, but I cannot say for sure.
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You can say for sure that are a monstruous doses.
 
Actually that is relatively close to my break through for both. 80mg DPT (im'd) is my breakthrough, that's why I tried that dose. PCP is usually 10-12, I still kinda prefer the new way to the classic here but that could have been so I'm excited if it works out...
 
You just have to a bit careful, DPT(especially IM..)can be wicked! Much more so than DMT! More unpredictable! I've done both through every ROA you could think of and I'm a diss/psychedelic veteran, too much DPT on a good diss trip can turn it sideways unless your experienced to pay the consequences for tolling at that gate... I'll tell this though, DPT/ket or MXE, or 3-MeO-PCP/plain PCP gotten right, is..."Gods terroritory", it's amazing to stroll through, and gawk at, but you'll pay the price for admission, if you don't get it right...!;)
 
Luckily I'm a veteran of 12 years, I generally like playing in hell and coming back rather than kissing gods. That's why I am chasing this combo, when ready.

You learn more from demons than angels.
 
StMorningGlory said:
Luckily I'm a veteran of 12 years, I generally like playing in hell and coming back rather than kissing gods. That's why I am chasing this combo, when ready.

You learn more from demons than angels.
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Indeed you do! Just throwing warnings out there though! DPT can be rather wicked though I love it for that! The main thing is working out the DPT doses, I always prefer them higher(80-180mgs IM), but this is where some people find..."trouble" in the waters!
 
further thoughts on this.

Has anyone noticed the main place for the 94% clumpy powder is now sending finer, denser and apparently 98% purity (according to packet) stuff?

It may just be my tolerance but ive last less success with this "improved" batch

My standard dose is 2 x 30mg snorted an hour apart. But now this isnt doing so good. I can still feel it certainly, but its nowhere near enough for the euphoria i get from it and doesnt dissociate as strongly.

Anyone notice these differences or is it just me?

Also - i tried a combination of 30mg 3-meo-pce (which i found lacklustre overall, if pleasant enough) with 20-30mg o-pce a few hours in.

This combination was indeed glorious , and i felt fucking mad but in the best possible way.
 
It would be very helpful to read some reports where people did not compare it to MXE or talk about how it is not a replacement for MXE. Yes, we know! Wouldn't a more classical comparison be ketamine anyway?

With that said, would the consensus be that oral or sublingual is the best ROA here? I always IM my ketamine and I did with MXE (which for the record, I found completely cold and clinical unlike K and DXM) and my singular trial with 4-MeO-PCP.

There are some troubling reports that no one seemed to acknowledge about blood pressure and heart rate increases with this one. Did anyone else notice those issues? One person experienced those problems with IM. Although it is my beloved ROA for dissociatives (except for DXM, of course), I might have to forgo IM with this one...

After reading this entire thread, I also cannot be sure that a hole is possible. For me, dissociatives are only meant for holing. I might have to pass on this altogether if there is no hole to be found, and just stick to my beloved ketamine (which has never bothered my bladder that I can observe, not even after a gram in one night).
 
For my only two light bioassays with OPCE Im pretty much possitive that holing is totally factible. I would say this is the most pro-hole sustance ever.

OTOH, theres some users claiming that OPCE is a bitch raising your tolerance, pretty much forever, when you compare with K, MXE or the rest of dissos.Personally Im not taking it anymore as Im in love with dissospace and I just don´t want to burn it prematurely. If you are a moderate-heavy user of OPCE I would love to read your impressions regarding tolerance.

In my second bioassay it was clear that the trip was way less dissointeresting that the first one.
 
ashxcore said:
It would be very helpful to read some reports where people did not compare it to MXE or talk about how it is not a replacement for MXE. Yes, we know! Wouldn't a more classical comparison be ketamine anyway?
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I agree that novel psychoactive substances should be appreciated for their own character, but I think that we're seeing so many comparisons to MXE rather than ket because most of the demographic interested in O-PCE is more interested in research chemicals as opposed to street drugs to begin with, and it seems likely that many of the individuals sampling O-PCE are not able to draw a comparison to ket because they haven't tried it.
 
ashxcore said:
It would be very helpful to read some reports where people did not compare it to MXE or talk about how it is not a replacement for MXE. Yes, we know! Wouldn't a more classical comparison be ketamine anyway?

With that said, would the consensus be that oral or sublingual is the best ROA here? I always IM my ketamine and I did with MXE (which for the record, I found completely cold and clinical unlike K and DXM) and my singular trial with 4-MeO-PCP.

There are some troubling reports that no one seemed to acknowledge about blood pressure and heart rate increases with this one. Did anyone else notice those issues? One person experienced those problems with IM. Although it is my beloved ROA for dissociatives (except for DXM, of course), I might have to forgo IM with this one...

After reading this entire thread, I also cannot be sure that a hole is possible. For me, dissociatives are only meant for holing. I might have to pass on this altogether if there is no hole to be found, and just stick to my beloved ketamine (which has never bothered my bladder that I can observe, not even after a gram in one night).
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Iv'e defintley holed on it a couple times pretty hard. Very different though to a k hole tho for me.

Its more like K than mxe though anyway

ive noticed nothing obvious about body issues either so far. nothing more than your average dissociative
 
I hole on it orally easier than nasally. The I.M. is a kinda instant "experience"... I don't know if that's what some would call a hole though.

Orally/Sublingually definitely can make a hole state. My doses were very high to get there though.
 
I give this another try, because I did it wrong (low nasal doses). What is a threshold dose orally, in order to create an experience similar to that caused by low 3-MeO-PCP nasally applied doses ?
 
Ziiirp said:
I give this another try, because I did it wrong (low nasal doses). What is a threshold dose orally, in order to create an experience similar to that caused by low 3-MeO-PCP nasally applied doses ?
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Between 2-Oxo-PCE and 3-MeO-PCP you won't find any similitude, so don't try to use this one as a substitute of low 3-MeO-PCP doses. Oral dose for this one is 20-25mg. Anything under that dosage you will only find disconfort and confusion. And the high of snorted o-PCE is not really something I will do again, nothing special. IME this one is only worthable on high doses.... And on it's own it doesn't really shine, at least for me. I need to smoke weed and drink a few beers when I dose o-PCE if I want to go to some interesting places, otherwhise the high lacks something by itself. I think in the future I'll push this one to the 60mg oral range, without adding any other drugs to the experience, just for science, bitches. I want to know how the original o-PCE hole is like, because I experienced some crazy headspaces when I combined it with psychedelics, cannabis, alcohol, or other candies. For me, o-PCE is a transdimensional potentiator, but by itself is really shitty...
 
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That sucks. Low doses of 3-MeO-PCP accurately resemble long meditation sessions without producing childish serotonergic giggles or unnerving after effects. But that is illegal in U-Rope now.
 
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