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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread

FATHOMZ said:
speaking of dosage levels... i have tried "micro-doses" and gone to work. at around 35-40ug there was a barely noticeable change in perception. i was more aware so to speak and less lethargic throughout the day. for me there wasn't much cognitive reward although so i wouldn't continue to spend my research that way ;].

AL-LAD has become available to me at quite a discount and while i'm happy with ETH i will be trying AL on my next batch and see how that goes. i have yet to experience AL or 1P yet but i am definitely going to expand my research to all 3 so i will be able to compare at a later time.
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New member here. Long time lurker. Always interested in microdosing and wanted to offer my experiences here.

I have microdosed all 1P-LSD, AL-LAD, and ETH-LAD in recent months. Dosages for all compounds are generally from 5-10ug generally once in the morning, but have tried re-dosing later in the day. I dose volumetrically as I purchased powder in all cases. In my experience, food grade ethanol (96%; its polish spirits) works quite well as a solvent for all 3 of these compounds with vigorous shaking at concentrations of 2mg/500uL and below. 1P-LSD is the most stubborn and can require some heat (37C) briefly to encourage it into solution. It is also noteworthy that storage and stability of these compounds in solution seems decent. I have solutions of all 3 at 1ug/0.1mL so a 1mL syringe can easily be used to dose into a beverage (generally a small glass of water) which have been stored in the fridge for about 1 month with no noticeable degradation based on consistency of effects over time.

To be brief for lack of time, I find ETH-LAD to be the most useful out of the 3. I started with 1P-LSD and have found that it induces much more stimulation and more distracting effects than either AL-LAD or ETH-LAD. I prefer ETH-LAD because even the effects of the microdoses seem to last longer than AL-LAD, but are comparable to 1P-LSD.

I have played around with dosing frequency. I started every mwf, so 3x per week spaced at least a day. No decrease of effects of tolerance after about a month of this regimen. I have also tried 3-4 days in a row with 1-2 days break for a few weeks. Effects slightly diminish by the 3rd or 4th day, but not significantly in my experience. A little extra tired the day after a short binge, but nothing a little coffee or noopept can't remedy.

I will have to compose a much longer and in depth post regarding my experiences in the near future. Happy to provide more info.
 
Hey Neuropharmnaut, what have you gotten out of your experience with microdosing ?
Are you basically using this molecules as stimulants and mood lifters, or are you aiming to induce a "creativity and free association" boost a la James Fadiman ?
 
Img_9999 said:
Hey Neuropharmnaut, what have you gotten out of your experience with microdosing ?
Are you basically using this molecules as stimulants and mood lifters, or are you aiming to induce a "creativity and free association" boost a la James Fadiman ?
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I think I was drawn initially to the idea of microdosing for the potential cognitive enhancement, but it works great for general stimulation and mood lifting too. For me, these experiences have also afforded me a boost in creativity and free association, which I believe is an important part of their cognitive enhancing properties. Additionally attributed to my microdosing experiences is an increased focus, drive, and motivation about life in general. I continue using these compounds for these reasons and many others I will touch on in a later posts (when I have time to consolidate notes into a coherent format and write a general summary).

I have tried microdosing with various trytamines (4acodmt, 4acomet, 4hodet, 4homipt) as well, but will save those discussions for another post in the thread HZTB created (http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/...ead?p=13323816).

My apologies for keeping things brief, but I will post more details about my experiences in the next month or so as I find time to compose write-ups.
 
I dropped 1 and 3/4 hits of 150 mcg ETH-LAD yesterday and make no mistake, this was very intense.

Dropped at 3pm, didn't really start peaking until about 2 hours into it, it seemed the peak was building until the 4 hour point, from thereon out everything got the melting swirling acid thing going on.

Visuals, geometry, there is a period between 3 and 4 hours I have very little recollection. Took too much I think.

However intense it got, there was no negative feelings at all. Nothing evil, sinister, and I had the feeling everyone around me was dying of laughter, but when I looked at them, they weren't laughing. I looked away, I felt the hysterical laughing again.

Mentally, it did not mess with my mind and thoughts at all. Me and my friends held lucid conversations while I watched his face grow fractals that moved up and down in breathing flowing patterns.

I took some xanax at the 12 hour mark, there was still some pretty distinct morphing and breathing happening. I took a dose of xanax and trazadone, and went to sleep.

I went into this with a mild head cold, and there was a certain decongestant effect.

One thing bothered me though. After the peak, I got a very sort of painful cramping on the inside of my thighs, it felt really tense and painful. Like I went horseback riding for 12 solid houra
Nothing urgent or alarming, it's gone today, but my calfs are painfully sore. It must have something to do with the eth-lad. Muscle cramps maybe, or some deficiency? Someone got some ideas what I can do to prevent this next time?

To cap it all off, next time, I will dose lower because I lost my urge and ability to walk about, and pretty much had to lie or sit down.
 
Been over 6 weeks since my last stint with the 150ug ETH-LAD and 100 ug 1P-LSD combo. My last endeavor was great, but seemed just a little weaker then my first go. I started to wonder if the substances were degrading, or perhaps I needed to space my trips out over a longer period. So today I am thinking almost 7 weeks, I should be good to go. The 1P in question is about 9 months old, stored vacuum sealed in a freezer. The ETH-LAD is about 6 months old, stored in the same fashion.

Same me set and setting as always.

A few beers, and meditation with crystals to relax...

Both hits dropped at 12:30 PM

http://youtu.be/QzMsoz4XIkM

1:30 Any thought of any of these materials being degraded, or starting to fastly swirl away... Wow getting hit hard.

http://youtu.be/jULlldN64f4




1:50 visuals getting awesome already


Lol..... I have the worst trip reports, probably because I'm tripping.

i try every time. Lmao.....

Peace peple... This is just such a perfect mix...

Thinking it may be a worthy idea to drop the ETHlad first, then maybe wait an hour or two to drop the 1p and perhaps double the dose of the 1p. The eth lad comes on like a ton of bricks... Then gets really mellow. Thinking...

We are all blessed.

http://youtu.be/ubs-9C1zge0

Also to note good folks here at Bluelight, I am almost baseline now. And this seems to represent most of my ETH LAD trips, so about 6 hours... the only one that went into greater duration was my adventure into 350ug.
 
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Hawk-o said:
Thinking it may be a worthy idea to drop the ETHlad first, then maybe wait an hour or two to drop the 1p and perhaps double the dose of the 1p.
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Any more thoughts on this line? 225ug ETH-LAD kicked my ass in the come-up but left me wanting a bit more "meat" on the plateau. Sounds like you could be onto something. I could see 100ug 1P at say 0:45 working well and not be wasted too much on the tolerance spike.

Hawk-o said:
We are all blessed
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God damn right. Love that track. It reminds me of Neil Young's Helpless. Been loving this LW track lately: https://youtu.be/L8wfdjTgIQk
 
axnow said:
Any more thoughts on this line? 225ug ETH-LAD kicked my ass in the come-up but left me wanting a bit more "meat" on the plateau. Sounds like you could be onto something. I could see 100ug 1P at say 0:45 working well and not be wasted too much on the tolerance spike.



God damn right. Love that track. It reminds me of Neil Young's Helpless. Been loving this LW track lately: https://youtu.be/L8wfdjTgIQk
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Yeah for for me the ETH-lad comes on fast and hard, but does not last that long at 150ug. The 1P for me is pretty easy going and I think I could handle 200 of 300ug after the eth come up subsides. So you are thinking 45 minute interval would be ideal? I am really into working with this combination, as it is pure bliss... Just looking for a longer trip.

Nice track! Thank you! Life is good!!
 
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Please note that ETH-LAD tabs are now being distributed at 100µg doses, whereas the original tabs were dosed at 150µg. It will be important to indicate which dosage is on your blotter tabs when talking about taking x number of tabs in this thread.

I'm a little sad that they had to reduce the dosage, but I think it was a good move overall. 100µg should plenty strong enough for a single hit of this whopping lysergamide, and it makes it easier to move up in smaller increments when increasing dose. I'm really glad to see that this seems to have been produced on a much bigger scale this time around.
 
I tried ETH-LAD for the first time, at 75µg. Noticed first effects by +1h. No real headspace to speak of, I mean I was off baseline, but my thinking was not significantly altered. I listened to some music and had a great time. I left home at +3h and went to a museum. I noticed some color shifting in the midst of Monet's beautiful water lilies, but it was really subtle. I was pretty much back to baseline at +6h. As others have said, the come down is very fast, almost instantaneous. The whole experience was really subtle, there were almost no visuals or psychedelic headspace but an increased aesthetic appreciation as well as euphoria. I'm guessing the dosage curve must be quite steep judging from the other trip reports. 75µg wasn't enough to really get a feel for what the compound is like, I'll probably try at least 100µg next time.
 
Hey guys! I've been on the shroomery for a while and thought I'd make an account here too.

I'm planning on trying this substance for the first time soon, and am looking for some clarification regarding the headspace. In what way is the headspace reduced? A nice strong trip without ego death and thought loops sounds great to me, but synesthesia is one of my favorite effects from psychedelics, and I would miss it if it weren't there. Have any of you noticed any synesthesia/ideasthesia with ETH-LAD and, if so, do you think that 200µg is enough to produce this with the right set and setting? I'm hoping to achieve LSD-like cognitive enhancement while remaining lucid enough for technical thinking. Thanks!
 
Starless: welcome to the forum!

At 300µg ETH-LAD pushed me into sections of complete synesthesia/ideasthesia (I really like your word!) where nothing was separable from anything else, all these sense and thought streams were hopelessly intertwined. It seemed too far out to be at all productive, but in retrospect it was interesting to experience such an extreme.

At 150µg ETH-LAD was barely navigable in terms of technical thinking, but moreso than LSD would have been at the same level - not talking about same level of µg necessarily, because I've never been sure of my LSD doses. Talking about at a comparative subjective effects level, I found ETH-LAD slightly easier to manage normal world things like operating a computer, or making a cup of tea.

If it were me 200µg would probably be too much for lucid, technical thinking, I'd probably go for 100µg if the purpose was to actually try to be a bit productive in some way (art, music, writing, study, whatever).

My two cents, YMMV.
 
I tab of Eth-Lad will feel much more rewarding than your Al-Lad experience... There both good although for me Eth-Lad goes so much deeper...
 
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I finally got around to trying this gem. Very lsd like. Taking at least 100+ trips I could definitely pick out the differences, but to someone more casual I feel would not be able to tell. Clear headed and not as manic. Or as stimulating like lsd. It had more of a relaxed and calming body load, some people I hear compare it to opiates. I can see that to a degree, felt very trance like. I dosed 1 tab while my friend took 2 doses of liquid lsd. Was an awesomely introspective headspace. Worth mentioning I hadn't touched any psychedelic in over one year due to health complications, finally was able to again and let me tell you.

A break in general was fucking refreshing, my receptors were so fresh with such an anxious need to go far out there. I could have handled more but with not having it prior. Wanted to get my feet wet, and I did only have one tab haha, if I had more I would have indulged in two for the first go, it always takes more lysergic for myself. I can't wait to repeat, I'd consider this chemical strong. One tab had me feeling lovely.
 
I may grab this one soon. What to expect now that the tabs going around are dosed at 100ug ? I know most people found 150 enough for a strong trip, will 100ug be a mild trip ? Comparable in intensity to 100ug of LSD, or stronger?
 
Seeing as how 150ug of ETH-LAD provided me with the most visual psychedelic experience I've ever had (with the exception of DMT) I would definitely say it was life-changing. Just not in the typical, spiritual way.

It beat good sized shroom and LSD doses, 2c-b, a mild overdose of DOC, and all the assorted tryptamines. I thought my brain just didn't work that way, until eth-lad gave me all the stereotypical goodness I wanted. Highly recommended!!
 
Just a heads up guys, I ordered a five-strip about a week ago and just received it to find that it's from the old batch. Order now and you still might be able to get 150's.

I'll post a report once I've tried it with my friends. I'm pretty excited about this!
 
ShroomySatori said:
Thanks for the input. I'm really excited!

LSD at low-ish doses for me can be full-blow cerebral mania, just totally out of my mind and VERY deep but without too much visual activity. What I mean is that I'm usually (hyper)aware of my surroundings. I'd like to experience visuals to the extent that I don't even know if my eyes are open or closed, or where I am, or who I am (was).

Hopefully the 150ug ETH-LAD will do it for me. And if not... well there's a whole bunch more where that came from. I stocked up before the weaker ones came out. Although I hate to go into a trip expecting anything. Best thing to do is choose the right time and place and be ready for anything (including a letdown).

Of course I can get to a similar place with DMT but it's over before it starts. I'm looking for depth, like acid has, but something different. We'll just have to see how it goes.
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You are going to love it. Let us know how it goes!
 
Glad I picked up some of the 150's before they were out. Will have to indulge again soon. 10+ weeks since my last trip :)
 
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