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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine Mega Thread v. 19

Need advice with suboxone!

Okay so this is my first time posting and I need some advice, I've looked high and low for an answer to my question but can't seem to find much help.
I'm currently on suboxone maintenance at a dose of 4mg a day, however I'm finding that the positive effects initially provided by this wonder drug have quickly faded away. The main effect being the boost of energy that the buprenorphine gives me. So I've began taking my 4mg dose only every other day in attempt to keep my tolerance at a minimum, and therefore making it so that when I do take my dose I can actually feel the effects more so than I would had I been taking 4mg every day. When I take my dose every other day I'm absolutely full of energy and motivation when it comes to just about anything. I'm motivated to work out, I can work all day whilst barely getting tired or feeling any back pain, I clean my house and do all of my homework. But even now that I only take my dose every other day, my tolerance still seems to be quite high. I know that bupe has quite a long half life, (I'll just say 24 hrs) so even though I'm waiting a full day to dose, I obviously still have quite a bit of suboxone still in my system hence why I still have a tolerance. My question is, do you guys think that waiting 24 hours between doses is enough time to keep my tolerance low enough to consistently feel that energy boost provided by the sub? I just want to get the most out of my bupe. Taking my dose every day keeps my tolerance too high, and waiting a full 48 hours is simply too long for me to have to wait just to ensure that I actually feel the effects of my dose. I just want some other opinions on the matter though. Any answers will be greatly appreciated.

And just to give some extra info, I'm in my twentys, I got on sub to get off of heroin, and I typically plug my dose instead of taking it sublingualy.
 
suboxone vs methadone

Hi so I am on 16 mg of suboxone a day... I have found some methadone and really want to get high.. How long do I have to wait realisticly to get a real high. But then again how long after I do the methadone should I do my next suboxone dose...????
 
Well 16mg of Bupe is a very high dose and it has a long half-life (accumulation) and also depending on the Methadone dose it would take a good amount of time.
It is just not worth it when you take in consideration that the high would be disappointing and diminished even after waiting a few days and it only compromises your maintenance therapy in the long run.

What kind of habit did you have before going on the 16mg of Bupe? Just asking because that is a lot and probably overkill unless you had a monster IV habit or were doing Fentanyl and such.
 
took one 8mg Suboxone strip for wds-when to take roxis?

Im sure.this has been asked a thousand times. However I cant find the specific answer. I normally take upwards of 120mg of roxis a day. I ran out and a friend gave me an 8mg sub strip. I took it at 7am. I just got my hands on some percs. How long do I have to hold off on taking them to fwel the effects? Im so worried I'll throw myself into pwds. Thanks all!
 
Hello,

I have no first hand experience with subs but I have a few friends that take them everyday. From what I've read and heard about suboxone from them is if you take any opiate afterwards it's either going to do nothing for you or you'll get sick. Suboxone strips usually have naloxone as another ingredient which counters the effects of opiates. I would do some of your own research but I wouldn't recommend taking your opiates for awhile after you take suboxone because you'll either waste your opiates or you'll get WD or get sick. Hope this helps.
 
I've talked to a few people at the clinic that i used to go to that were on suboxone & they normally waited until they felt w/d setting in. If you take opiates while on suboxone, you will absolutely put yourself into a bad withdrawal. If it was me, i'd wait until i started to feel uncomfortable. Sorry this isn't a whole lot of help. I tried. :)
 
16MG HELPS you stay clean. if you take that first 8MG in the morning you still get that URGE come night, so another 4-8MG helps a lot if you were a true junkie.

I shot 1-2 grams a day and for the last 4 months of my use it was mostly fent; now I've been on bupe for the last 2 months and doing well. there are days were ill get by w/ 8MG and then there are days I am fiending for dope and need more than 8MG. you can easily get away w/ less but its always nice to have more.

most Dr's who script this shit truly DONT KNOW SHIT but they do know THEY LOVE MONEY!
 
16mg of Suboxone is a ton. IIRC, that's equivalent to 426mg of Oxy. Was your habit that high? People who usually require such high doses didn't induct properly. You can wait long enough to not go into PWs but not long enough to actually hit the sweet spot of efficacy for Sub. There are plenty of people coming off of 80mg Oxy/daily habit that maintain at 16mg of Bupe because they didn't wait long enough.

At this point, your tolerance is through the roof and your system is flooded with Buprenorphine. You'd need to wait until you're WDing from Sub to do the Methadone. Then comes the hassle of getting back on Suboxone due the Methadone's long half life. It's just not worth it.
 
BostonBrownTown said:
I shot 1-2 grams a day and for the last 4 months of my use it was mostly fent; now I've been on bupe for the last 2 months and doing well. there are days were ill get by w/ 8MG and then there are days I am fiending for dope and need more than 8MG. you can easily get away w/ less but its always nice to have more.
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That makes sense then, no offense :) I was just noticing that a lot of people are on these high doses of Bupe when their habit was relatively small before and in that cases I think it has negative aspects.
I am still on my maintenance dose of ~0,5mg/day and the last kick was pretty harsh so maybe thats why I can't fathom such high doses but I never did H or IV'ed so yeah...
 
what drug did you do? just regular percoset?

I just cant imagine taking such a small dose of bupe; you dont think you can just kick at that point? my last time on bupe (4 years ago) I went from 16MG to 4MG over the course of 9 months and stopped at 4MG and was def. a little dope sick but got by in a few days. then before you know it I was shooting dope again and wishing I never rushed to get off bupe.

I seriously have NO INTENTION on dropping my dosage or even trying to get off bupe this time; I am just too big of a dope fiend to even think about it. plus I've been on methadone before and thats just a pain in the ass; I think bupe is so much better. esp. since I dont have to go to a clinic every morning and wait in line and then go to a fucking window and swallow my "juice".
 
I've been using 1mg of sub for a week or so now, I induced on 1mg as well and although it was slightly uncomfortable I just rode the night out no problem. my question is regarding relatively small doses for short times and the ability to physically detox.. like if I drop down to .25 and have only been using the sub for two weeks at the most and never having used more then one mg per day , would there be a physical withdrawal even ? Im not a puss in the pain department im just curious.
 
well i did like 14 10 mg methadone pills a day so 140 mg.. I also would shoot heroin... I quit the heroin and was on the pills at a high dose and now im on 16 mg suboxone a day.. But I love that methadone high...So my cravings are terrible.. Plus im around ppl who are all either selling or doing drugs and it makes it even harder..
 
BostonBrownTown said:
what drug did you do? just regular percoset?

you dont think you can just kick at that point?
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I basically went through every lower potent opioid available here in Europe (Tramadol, Tilidine, Codeine, DHC, Kratom, O-Desmethyltramadol & AH-7921 back then) and then on Bupe.
I did kick last year before Christmas and it was surpisingly hellish, intense puking and not being able to eat anything for about 5 days. I was wrecked, but I took about 1mg/day before that.

Then I paused for about 1 month and got back on the train 8) Now I am pretty scared to do it all over again, but I am cutting down in 0,1mg steps and then will be switching to Kratom for a few days.

This seems like a benign habit but it is not for me, been doing it for years now...
 
surprised you got so sick.. but a habit is a habit, whether its 2G's of dope or 10MG perc, we'll still get sick. just different wants to solve it; luckily youre on such a low dose of bupe that you MAY be able to kick that relatively soon. right now I honestly think its a mental game for you; you are on such a low dosage that you could take a final dosage Thursday morning and let it right a weekend and see how it feels.
 
Good morning dude, yes you are right but I have a lot of social obligations as well as being able to work in the future.
I am planning to visit some major event next weekend and stop after that. Gonna stock up on some meds to help and I know that I feel much better without the opis once the WD is over so that is somewhat of an impulse for me to do it again.

Thanks for your input.
 
I'm starting detox. I was wondering if I took a oxy this morning at 10am will I be cool to take my first sub tmr at 10am at the doctors? Thanks
 
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