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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine Mega Thread v. 19

It's different for everyone. If that was me, yeah I'd take Suboxone 24hrs later with no problem because it takes next to nothing for me to start withdrawing from something with such short half life.
 
ylime said:
I'm starting detox. I was wondering if I took a oxy this morning at 10am will I be cool to take my first sub tmr at 10am at the doctors? Thanks
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if you feel sick, take it, if not, wait a few more hours.

24hrs would be fine w/ me but I hear many others who get sick, so just be careful and wait as long as possible.
 
Thx so much! Just one more question, if I take a Xanax will that effect me taking the sub in the morning? I read horror stories about the PW and how sick people got so I'm kinda freaking out a bit! Thanks so much again!!!
 
no need for a xanny unless its something you are already scripted and already take.

dont listen or worry about those horror stories; those are FEW of the THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of people who take bupe within a 24hr period.
 
Ok thx! Here's hoping I'm in enough withdraw tmr morning to start the subs!!!

Thanks again!
 
So My doctor started me on Subs 4 days ago. I'm now taking 8mg once every 12 hours. I am taking them exactly as I was told. Today I woke up and felt weird. I took my sub like I am supposed to. I had lightheadedness, heavy head, tired still, kinda pinned eyes, at a point I had confusion and some anxiety, 55 bpm, felt unattached. So I'm wondering what's going on... I didn't feel this way any other times I've taken it. (I'll not last night I took trazodone my doctor gave me as well to sleep 100mg) Now I'm worried to take more sub and I need to take it... Ugh is this normal? My head still feels heavy some what. I'm not trying to die! Thanks in advance!!!
 
Subutex question

I'm new here so let me say hello to everyone first. I have a question about subutex. I've been using it for the past few months along with other things like benzos barbs, etc. but sub has been my only form of opiate use for a long time now and I've always snorted it but the last few days it feels like it's not even going up my nose it doesn't burn anymore and I don't even taste a drip at all, am I even absorbing any of it? Am I snorting it wrong? Help me not waste my very expensive 8mg pills in one day just because I think I'm not doing it right or that it's not working so I'll keep redosing. Thank you for any replies :)
 
The truth is most people are over-prescribed when it comes to suboxone (16mg, 24mg, 32 pssh RIDICULOUS). Now, YOU CAN argue that the high dose is on purpose to block other opiates. But I think its the craving-killer part of the suboxone that really makes it a miracle drug.

No matter how much heroin I was shooting... 1-3 grams a day of good west coast black. 4mg would always hold me over, and if I still felt shitty later in the night I'd take another 2mg, but never more. 6mg MAX for the first few days, then u can drop to 2-4mg with no problem, whatever u prefer.

At this dose it doesn't completely block your sexdrive, which is nice. But it also doesn't completely block your receptors. Which means on a dose of 2-4mg you can shoot heroin and break through the barrier. I've done this many times and have personal experiance. However, Once you get up into the 8mg-16mg a day range, it completely blocks any opiates.

The goal, at least for me, Is to maintain on 2-3mg. At this dose I still feel peppy, I have a sexdrive, and most importantly, I STILL get my "sub buzz". This is because when you're on a low dose like 2mg, its worn off by the next morning when u take it again....So every time you get a buzz(This doesn't happen on higher doses. Higher doses just make u tired over time). So in my personal opinion this is the way to go... I dont know about all you though.

WORD, just sayin.
 
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Subtext is made by different companies with different fillers etc.
It may be that it has a different origin.
Does it work? Eventually it won't get you high but will keep withdrls away.
 
One other question... Can you drink if you're taking Subs? I still want to be able to go out and drink some... Thanks in advance
 
ylime said:
One other question... Can you drink if you're taking Subs? I still want to be able to go out and drink some... Thanks in advance
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I'm sure everyone is different in this department, but yesterday I drank about 2 beers and it made me feel nauseas. I take 4 - 6mg of bupe but have only been doing so a few days so that's another thing to factor in. I think for myself bupe + alcohol makes me feel sick so if I was you I'd take it slow when drinking, start with a beer and let it sit for a minute don't jump into shots shots shots ya know?
 
I disagree. I've been maintaining at anywhere from .25-1 mg daily. And if I don't dose I start yawning a lot, then get really tired, sleep for 12 hours or so and wake up feeling REALLY run down shitty and sore....but if I shoot even a tiny piece, I feel better. That's not mental, its physical. Any WD sucks, I wish it was easier to make smaller doses so I could properly taper down as low as possible....
 
hypnotic321 said:
I'm sure everyone is different in this department, but yesterday I drank about 2 beers and it made me feel nauseas. I take 4 - 6mg of bupe but have only been doing so a few days so that's another thing to factor in. I think for myself bupe + alcohol makes me feel sick so if I was you I'd take it slow when drinking, start with a beer and let it sit for a minute don't jump into shots shots shots ya know?
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Yup, similar experience... Felt sick and didnt get any euphoria...
 
This was my love and hell, had about 8 years doing almost everyday if I didnt have any other opioid.. its bitchass med... Hook is as strong as every opioid, did IV everytime. Here in Finland this is most often seen as "streetopioid" and abuse is very usual. Subutex is seen more often and have been came from France I think over borders, it doesnt contain naloxone like suboxone (wich is used in maintenance) and is more often drug of choice. Cost differ wide range in street and it depends where u get these, yes its expensive as fuck... Ruins more lives than saves here. Almost everybody who uses bupe in Finland does have benzodiazepine addiction too. It is like hand in hand combo in my country. in my case I didnt get any kicks about this drug it just normalized me that I could function my "normal" everyday life. Dont miss this shit at all anymore though..
 
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One aspect of suboxone that doesn't seem to have a tolerance build is miosis, or pin point pupils. Obviously subjectively, if you were wasting it by accident eventually you'd feel withdrawal, but if it is active, you can tell quantitatively by pupil diameter. That's usually how I'd gauge withdrawal intensity, but it's far from perfect.
 
siq said:
Yup, similar experience... Felt sick and didnt get any euphoria...
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+1 on this aspect. Though I never drank much alcohol I like to enjoy a good beer or whiskey once in a while and felt that if I go above a certain dose (>2 drinks) it only makes me feel icky.
 
A question for the suboxone pros out there.

My DOC is PST, ridiculously long half life. This makes induction not so fun. I can dose Sub as early as 18-24hrs however, the effect is greatly diminished. If actually wait 48hrs I'll get a warm buzz after dosing 2mg of Bupe. If I dose too early, I'll need like 6mg to hold me down and I'll be having a greatly reduced in intensity withdrawal in the background for 2-3 days. My question is, if I go back to dosing 2-3mg once a day, will I eventually get that warm buzz back? I know this is counterintuitive, but so the question stands.
 
youre question is pretty hard to understand, man.. but the answer is NO! you sticking w/ that same dosage for the extended period of time will only kill any/all buzz.

are you taking suboxone? pill or tab? either way, you'd still be losing that buzz. if you were taking subutex you'd have a partial buzz still there. MAYBE even zubsolv would be a bit better than your typical bupe/sub pill/film.
 
It is possible to get the norbupre' affects from 2 mgs. mood elevation / energy, even a bit of analgesia
but @ even double that dose the adverse affects start to outweigh...

But yeah, you'll only start benefiting probably weeks after putting down the tea.
 
I appreciate the answers to my previous question. I have one more.

I was on Suboxone for 4 days. The first three days I dosed 6mg each day. On the fourth day I had 5mg. This morning, I ended up using PST. Will I have to go through induction all over again or I can just dose tonight or tomorrow morning?

I know that those who have been on Suboxone for a while can just dose after their DOC unless they haven't taken Bupe for a long while or their agonist vacation dragged on for too long.
 
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