You seem confident in what you claim. Got anything concrete to back that up?
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There is no real point in life.
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You seem confident in what you claim. Got anything concrete to back that up?
He does not NEED, but he wants it. there is no purpose except for the experience itself, the life experience is like a drug for an omniscient, all powerful and utterly lonely being. We are never really separated from God, because we are all like a speck of god, all of the attributes of God are basically within each of us, we all carry his nature. God said in the Bible, "I am the Beginning and the End, Alpha and Omega" which is a beautiful way to say , I am timeless, the one who created and invented the idea of time. Our end is death, our beginning is birth- but really we are timeless too, because we will either go on in the form of endless birth and death loops, having countless lives and experiences , or we will just return to becoming one with our eternal essence anyway.
God likes to play hide and seek with himself. But one of the strangest experiences is the feeling of God as being within you as opposed to being something outside you. It goes against what we're conditioned to believe and is very strange and overwhelming.
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That's an interesting concept
Thanks^ its not just me, i'm sure you've heard all sorts of philosophical rants espousing the same concept. "We are all one" while cliche has been around probably forever, although specifically it can be traced back to the '60's and the psychedelic influenced philosophy of the hippies. I see many young bluelighters and other equally book smart and nerdy hipsters basically touting the same idea - but you can tell they are just regurgitating the same idea that some of us KNOW --- because at least in my case, I didn't really think on this concept or honestly even care about it until a severely disturbing and utterly mind-blowing trip that I had when I was 22; which left me unsettled and disturbed for a period of months.
After I was able to integrate this one extreme trip, I engaged in a series of pretty intense DMT / Ayahuasca / Changa trips, 4 years later and was able to thoroughly inspect each side of the rubrics cube so to speak. . Until I had an ultimate breakthrough DMT trip, where I met the "Source" ... the "architect" and was permitted to ask whatever questions I wished. The answers I got shocked me , because I could remember my life before my life, I could remember the answers I wasn't ever permitted to know, and I found out why "forbidden" is forbidden. Sometimes Ignorance is bliss, so do not go knocking on the door if you aint ready to be floored.
After I was able to integrate this one extreme trip, I engaged in a series of pretty intense DMT / Ayahuasca / Changa trips, 4 years later and was able to thoroughly inspect each side of the rubrics cube so to speak. . Until I had an ultimate breakthrough DMT trip, where I met the "Source" ... the "architect" and was permitted to ask whatever questions I wished. The answers I got shocked me , because I could remember my life before my life, I could remember the answers I wasn't ever permitted to know, and I found out why "forbidden" is forbidden. Sometimes Ignorance is bliss, so do not go knocking on the door if you aint ready to be floored.
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one should be only concern about the experience of now, the feeling of now. all those viewpoints are simply viewpoints based upon the relative view of self and mainly CREATED by thoughts.
Bible, endless cycle of life and death... man, that sounds like just another New Age theory powered by pot. Not that I mind if that's what you believe in honestly, I'm a free thinker so by all means do seek your truth. I just don't see the point why wold an entity that is perfect require anything from lower forms of being.
It's like asking for a ten bucks donation, in spite that all the money in the world is actually yours anyhow.
Do you realize you are referring to something someone wrote in THE PAST? : )
how are we lower forms of beings? When did i say God requires anything of us? Who says god is perfect or life is perfect? and who decides exactly what makes up "perfect" - I happen to believe that what we think of as perfect is in the spectrum of human possibiity .. i believe a perfect specimen would have flaws - otherwise they would be sterile and boring.
Ok , whats your take on the whole thing? Do you have anything in terms of personal conviction regarding creation and humanity?
Ok , whats your take on the whole thing? Do you have anything in terms of personal conviction regarding creation and humanity?
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but most likely that affects him right now
Sure. I think Abrahamic religions are a scourge of the Earth. Something this planet would flourish without... Without THE PROPHET, carpenter and, err... that other guy Jews pray to. Imagine if we were all as humble and simple as Eskimos or some tribe in Amazonian rain forests. These people lived the way it's meant to be.
How created us? Aliens. A specie with advanced understanding of genetics. Sumerians talk of them, Bible speaks of giants Jews destroyed also. Were they really giants, lizards, make no difference to me. We were made with way too many genetic flaws, completely dependent on brainpower to survive. No fur, no claws, no nothing... We also use a fraction of brainpower that is somehow biologically locked. Those who designed us did so for a specific task. A race of gold miners, some say. I read they discovered some gold mines in South Africa, 50,000 years old. Man... that's OLD. I also don't think this advanced specie didn't invent its self, it became somehow. Which leads us to god concept again...
But why all this suffering, hatred, killing, misery... I just can't make sense of it. Looks like God doesn't needs it, we don't want it. Yet it happens.
And I'm accused of promoting fringe-beliefs which don't have anything constructive to offer anyone.
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God that great! ^ talk about dumb, ok so you heard of zecharia sitchen , and you know a few misinterpreted facts about brain power and genetics. How are we flawed? Genetically we are pretty fucking amazing, because of evolution we are prone to DNA forking and therefore certain diseases and mutations .... but i've seen human beings do impossible and amazing things. Such as a blind man who can see wearing a blindfold.
the annunaki are "those who from heaven to earth came" and they supposedly taught us civilization and helped teach us how to quarry stone and use technology. They were supposedely quite tall and could possibly control their appearance as we were not allowed to depict them in their original form. It is possible that they were here mining gold , and we helped them out with that. Yeah their is some evidence to support that stuff, but truth be told its quite difficult to be sure because the tablets that sitchen translated off are so ancient that no one can really understand the writing for sure; sitchen is one of like 4 that can even claim to make heads or tails of those writings. And besides all that, those ideas can still fit in my belief structure, and that of the other two with whom you were pointlessly debating.
Its funny , because all you have really is something you saw on history channel and nothing truly original or derived from your own life experience; and yet you tear down on others beliefs.
Nah , grow up some more and really develop some sprituality and experience for yourself (not just some nerdy psuedo-science you read in a book or saw on TV)
God that great! ^ talk about dumb, ok so you heard of zecharia sitchen , and you know a few misinterpreted facts about brain power and genetics. How are we flawed? Genetically we are pretty fucking amazing, because of evolution we are prone to DNA forking and therefore certain diseases and mutations .... but i've seen human beings do impossible and amazing things. Such as a blind man who can see wearing a blindfold.
the annunaki are "those who from heaven to earth came" and they supposedly taught us civilization and helped teach us how to quarry stone and use technology. They were supposedely quite tall and could possibly control their appearance as we were not allowed to depict them in their original form. It is possible that they were here mining gold , and we helped them out with that. Yeah their is some evidence to support that stuff, but truth be told its quite difficult to be sure because the tablets that sitchen translated off are so ancient that no one can really understand the writing for sure; sitchen is one of like 4 that can even claim to make heads or tails of those writings. And besides all that, those ideas can still fit in my belief structure, and that of the other two with whom you were pointlessly debating.
Its funny , because all you have really is something you saw on history channel and nothing truly original or derived from your own life experience; and yet you tear down on others beliefs.
Nah , grow up some more and really develop some sprituality and experience for yourself (not just some nerdy psuedo-science you read in a book or saw on TV)
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First thing you should know about Bible and THE LORD, reincarnation and Bible don't go hand in hand. There are some references about that in early days of Christian faith but I didn't examine that good enough. Long story short, it no longer has a place in belief in Christian God. You go to heaven, you live once. That's what you settle for with these guys. Sure, my theory could be crazy, I read a lot, used some common sense, people always killed each other for religious reasons. Too bad it was the primary reason. A lot of scum walks this earth, praising God and doing all sorts of evil shit to other people, I can't stand that. But I don't think being an Atheist bulldog is anything more constructive than talking snakes and babies with wings.
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But I have to ask you guys, whats the point to try to know how we were created? how would that change the inherent insatisfaction in life and help for the search of peace and happiness.
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what I dont understand about christians is why this belief in god. the feeling of god you've mentioned earlier is simply feeling love. I feel love most of the time and its not because im in special contact with god, but because im purifying my thoughts and heart content.
how can one base his life on a concept he can never be sure is very troublesome to me. not insult intend, im just curious
how can one base his life on a concept he can never be sure is very troublesome to me. not insult intend, im just curious
its not your theory, its like every kid who is in 10th grade's theory.... its the history channel (H2 because just plain history channel wouldn't ever call that history) its a dumb thing to try and take on like 5 people who have sincere spiritual practices and beliefs, especially Ninae cause its like a full time job for her, and her beliefs are at least original and well researched.
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but believing in god is original?
do you think ridiculizing and insulting one spirituality is a good way to help him or that it makes you happy?
do you think ridiculizing and insulting one spirituality is a good way to help him or that it makes you happy?
That's all great. Unless your father has schizophrenia and can't cross the road without a helping hand. Or wipe his nose. Hey, I guess we're all amazing in different ways. Right? Even if you shit your own pants listening to radio. Someone will mop it up, eventually. Not God though. He just makes freaks...