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New (and less new) RCs - Alphabet Soup

uu, another ban in the UK another drive for more alphabet bingo! :) I wonder what the new year will bring to your shores...

asked this in the other thread but perhaps here s a better place... have ald52, prolad and ethlad ever been avaliable?
 
ALD-52 supposedly has and I'm sure the others have been made and tried but to the best of my knowledge they have not been openly sold.
 
argh, i think i read a report, or perhaps just guesswork about eth-lad. sounded good on paper. :(
 
i read somewhere (probably this forum) about how the vaunted 3d printers 'doing chemistry' may shake up how 'niche' chemistry gets done a bit. Eg printing aspirin has been done - i think it 'prints' a little 3d reaction chamber and interconected chemistry gubbins (i saw some video) - coating certain bits in precursor chemicals fed into the printer in advance (willow?); so it really makes a little factory and that makes the target chemical (or something).

Once chemistry/chemical processes can be digitised (precursors aside) they can be copy/pasted, cracked/downloaded, shared/improved etc (it's just 1s and 0s man!). You see where i'm going with this... why isn't there already a 'make your own DMT out of clover' app/bespoke raspberryPi mod out there yet?! (hurry up world!). I can't wait till they digitise drugs cos then i'll have a hard drive full up with them via pirate bay - and with digital, copy/paste=everyone's a winner :) (and then i'll build up a huge collection, become jaded with them, and get into all the obscure ones from the 60s that no one ever heard of (like happened with music/films/porn etc.).

Looking forward this could mean that chemical end products that were once difficult/inefficient to create could over time be more easily made by smaller and smaller operations - or even eventually, we'll have our own little personal computer/alchemist unit that, while inefficient in chemical engingeering terms, can, given the right precursors, knock up enough millions of molecules for just one hit for its poor likkle owner (especially with microgram active stuff). Maybe the little electronic tykes (and us) will start to have better access to our own internal cellular machinery to do the chemistry by then so we won't even need to sully our livers with actual chemicals, just call up an interface...) - the problem then becomes 'could you handle having a 'pleasure' button (or a dopamine switch - remember those rat/human experiments?...) (though yes i do want it please)
 
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I'd imagine if technology advances to the point of 'pleasure switches', the technology will exist to 'turn the switch off'.
The mind boggles thinking about being able to manually flood one's body with endomorphine at will.

I doubt anyone could lead something reminiscent of what society has arbitrarily defined as a 'normal life,' if given total control over their dopamine. Just look at Crack/MDPV/Meth addiction - massive release of DA is quite the reinforcing factor....
 
Got some 5-meo-malt to add to my collection of alphabet soup chemicals. Not tasted it yet. Struggling to find reports. I guess 5-10mg is an ok starting dose.
 
Anyone got any opinions on this new nifoxepam stuff? I received a small sample recently and found it to be very different to other RC benzos in that you can actually 'feel' the effects and get a good nights sleep without feeling groggy as fuck next day and with very little amnesia - even when mixed with booze. To me, it felt more like diazepam than any other RC benzos I've yet experienced. YMMV etc.
 
i tried them a couple days ago. Hadnt taken any benzos in weeks and tried 0.5mg which was mild as expected but quite nice. took a further 2.5mg later that day and still remained fairly clear headed but felt quite heavy but not flubro heavy. Duno how i feel about them yet.
 
I got the 2mg pills and found that I almost got a gouch off 4mg (with no benzo tolerance), slept well but had no hangover effects and could still remember everything. In contrast, I found etizolam did fuck all, phenazepam was just completely mental and diclazepam and flubromazepam were just like diluted phenazepam - I.e. bosh a couple, can't feel owt, redose - then all of a sudden a fortnight has passed and you can't remember a damn thing. These nifox seem as though they could actually be useful. Perhaps they have a shorter half life and/or less active metabolites than the others mentioned, though this is only guesswork as I haven't checked it out yet.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
I got the 2mg pills and found that I almost got a gouch off 4mg (with no benzo tolerance), slept well but had no hangover effects and could still remember everything. In contrast, I found etizolam did fuck all, phenazepam was just completely mental and diclazepam and flubromazepam were just like diluted phenazepam - I.e. bosh a couple, can't feel owt, redose - then all of a sudden a fortnight has passed and you can't remember a damn thing. These nifox seem as though they could actually be useful. Perhaps they have a shorter half life and/or less active metabolites than the others mentioned, though this is only guesswork as I haven't checked it out yet.
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I think I may have tried diclazepam and it made me trip my tits off. Horrible stuff. Was like some kind of synthetic weed analogue, sold as xanax powder. Put me on a major skitz. Nasty.
 
I've also had some mild visuals on diclazepam before. It doesnt feel very recreational at all, heavy stuff, and strangely trippy for a few secs now and again. Only tried it a few times. Took hours before i felt owt anything off it as well
 
Yes, my Mrs had a totally psychotic episode off diclazepam and she'd only had about 4 mg a couple of days earlier. She was carted off to hospital in an ambulance because she was seeing our first child (who sadly died shortly after birth) crawling along the ceiling as in Trainspotting. The ambulance crew even thought she might have had a stroke cos she wad so fucked. There is deffo something weird about those diclaz, probably its metabolites. Incidently, drug tests at the hospital failed to find anything which would also suggest that it produces some weird metabolites.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Yes, my Mrs had a totally psychotic episode off diclazepam and she'd only had about 4 mg a couple of days earlier. She was carted off to hospital in an ambulance because she was seeing our first child (who sadly died shortly after birth) crawling along the ceiling as in Trainspotting. The ambulance crew even thought she might have had a stroke cos she wad so fucked. There is deffo something weird about those diclaz, probably its metabolites. Incidently, drug tests at the hospital failed to find anything which would also suggest that it produces some weird metabolites.
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Wow, that's pretty fucked up.

I can completely see how this could manifest after ingesting diclazepam. I bought 100mg of 'xanax powder' which was ineffective until I'd eventually ingested 6 mg. Shortly after taking the last dose, I told my friend it felt like I had the energy and giddiness of a psychedelic come up. That gradually turned into great anxiety, confusion and a terrifying notion that I was about to come up on one of the delayed onset psychedelics such as those in the DOx series. I can remember telling my mate that if it got any stronger it would be too much. I really thought I'd been sent the wrong chemical in the post. Lasted a good few hours too.

The best bit was the next day when it was my mates turn. He's Irish and was pissing himself laughing explaining who Daniel O' Donnell was and trying to explain what a creep he is. He stuck the following video on and it absolutely freaked him out.

"Man, I think I've been thinking too deeply about Daniel O' Donnell"

The greatest prelude to a skitz I've ever heard.



Nasty chemical.
 
F.U.B.A.R. said:
Yes, my Mrs had a totally psychotic episode off diclazepam and she'd only had about 4 mg a couple of days earlier. She was carted off to hospital in an ambulance because she was seeing our first child (who sadly died shortly after birth) crawling along the ceiling as in Trainspotting. The ambulance crew even thought she might have had a stroke cos she wad so fucked. There is deffo something weird about those diclaz, probably its metabolites. Incidently, drug tests at the hospital failed to find anything which would also suggest that it produces some weird metabolites.
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What a horrendous ordeal. Is she better now?
 
Yes she's absolutely fine now thanks. However, this happened twice on consecutive days. She got carted off to hospital the first day, got drug tested, couldn't find anything, let her calm down then sent her home. Next day, exact same thing happened... The doctor put it down to stress!
Luckily she wasnt given any more benzos in hospital - presumably because they didn't know what they were dealing with. I should really have told the paramedics what she'd been taking, but I didn't make the connection as she'd only had about 4mg two days earlier. Also, I'd been boshing them for days so wasn't thinking clearly myself. I didnt realise until i eventually straightened out just how long it stays active in your system. Since then she's been totally fine.
 
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