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The Big & Dandy Methoxphenidine / MXP / 2-MeO-Diphenidine Thread

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I totally agree with crOOk, I get the feeling of peace and serenity with some standard dissociation but still lucid enough to have proper conversations. I love it. But be careful with it, in high does its sounds pretty full on and lower doses are very moreish.
 
Dosed 100mgs orally of MXP on a half full stomach. Didn't think the MXP was turning up so I started eating, and then of course down the drive walks the postman with my batch.

So it has been 3 and a half hours since I dosed 100mgs of MXP weighed acurately with a small amount of pasta and bread in stomach. I feel only very slight effects that something is different, very slight. have 75mg weighed out next to me.
Used to abuse Ketamine daily but stopped using that a year ago. Wondering why I am not feeling much and whether I should take this 75mg line. Want to feel a trip and am doing things properly this time. Will the 75mg perhaps take me where I want to be? Orally or Nasaly?
 
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atv said:
Dosed 100mgs orally of MXP on a half full stomach. Didn't think the MXP was turning up so I started eating, and then of course down the drive walks the postman with my batch.

So it has been 3 and a half hours since I dosed 100mgs of MXP weighed acurately with a small amount of pasta and bread in stomach. I feel only very slight effects that something is different, very slight. have 75mg weighed out next to me.
Used to abuse Ketamine daily but stopped using that a year ago. Wondering why I am not feeling much and whether I should take this 75mg line. Want to feel a trip and am doing things properly this time. Will the 75mg perhaps take me where I want to be? Orally or Nasaly?
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Quoting myself I know. I may as well make it a written trip report.

I'm new to this sort of thing so I will do my best.

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Drink 4 beers some days between 7 - 10pm
Take 15mg mirtazapine daily around 10-11pm


3.30pm - I weighed out 100mg of methoxphenidine and ingested it in a gel cap one hour after eating half of a pasta meal. I had previously been told by the postal service that I will not be receiving my special delivery package today and would get compensation. I was banking on keeping an empty stomach for this experiment but thought that today was not the day so was halfway through eating and then the postwoman turned up with the package after all. Bollocks I thought, enjoying my delicious red wine tomato pasta and garlic bread as she walked down the drive!
I put the other half in the fridge. I want it now haha!

4.30pm - I feel slight flutters very mild, dreamy, and a feeling of content. I feel I could do anything if I want to, there is no 'hole' or anything like that, just tactile sensations.

6.30pm I took another 75mg of the mxp. It just doesn't seem to be getting me to be where I want.

8pm I snorted 50mg of MXP to see if it can push it a bit. That is where I will leave it I think. I have felt numb, fluttery really. Some creative thoughts going through my mind. Tired. in a nice way, and still feel warm.

I've been really careful to weigh out the doses and wait the time frame, feel fuzzzy but I want more! haha.
What I always like is lying in bed and listening to music, and seeing CEV's. I'd like to know how others get to that point. Maybe 200mg MXP could produce an experience like that.

9pm and feeling tired, having beer and feeling MXP tirednesss, should eat.

I am wondering whether to try a 110mg pellet of BK 2CB tomorrow morning, as I feel in a good place now and have a whole day to myself.
I don't know if I have got what I wanted from this MXP trip.

Wonder if this all makes sense..hope so/////

I wont re dose MXP just see how I feel....
Mirtaz, food, alcohol and benzos will follow though I think....







At my disposal I have MXP, BK 2CB, Pyrazlolam, Mirtazapine and diclazepam and alcohol.
 
atv said:
I've been really careful to weigh out the doses and wait the time frame, feel fuzzzy but I want more! haha.
What I always like is lying in bed and listening to music, and seeing CEV's. I'd like to know how others get to that point. Maybe 200mg MXP could produce an experience like that.
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If you want CEV's, look elsewhere (DMT cough cough).

On this, just watch your mind merge with the universe.

I honestly have never felt such serenity in my life. Maybe on DMT, but not on any other dissociative, psychedelic or opiate. Maybe it's the 2C-E I've been throwing into the mix, not sure.
 
crOOk said:
If you want CEV's, look elsewhere (DMT cough cough).

On this, just watch your mind merge with the universe.

I honestly have never felt such serenity in my life. Maybe on DMT, but not on any other dissociative, psychedelic or opiate. Maybe it's the 2C-E I've been throwing into the mix, not sure.
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I have certainly felt pure serenity and enhanced appreciation of synchronicity, but as for feeling my mind merge with the universe, perhaps I need to up my dosages towards yours? How much do you normally take again?
 
NiceEnough said:
I have certainly felt pure serenity and enhanced appreciation of synchronicity, but as for feeling my mind merge with the universe, perhaps I need to up my dosages towards yours? How much do you normally take again?
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I inject around 250mg intravenously each time and have lately thrown 1-2mg 2C-E into the mix. The effects are far from overwhelming at that dose, but your mileage may vary.
 
NiceEnough said:
I totally agree with crOOk, I get the feeling of peace and serenity with some standard dissociation but still lucid enough to have proper conversations. I love it. But be careful with it, in high does its sounds pretty full on and lower doses are very moreish.
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I had reservations at first but others have let the cat out of the bag. When one finds the sweet spot it is better for getting the serene and peaceful dissociated space. A 5 gram bag can dissappear very fast and I have found it to have very little side-effects when used responsibly. I took it up to 200mg or so and that was good enough for me to say "yep more would be too much" When you crank it up to that notch, time dilation is out of the fucking frame, 5 minutes seems an hour at times. Lower doses can do similar time dilation just not to that extent.

Ideally I would do 75mg in AM initial followed by a booster 4-6 hours later (all orally) to get a good thing going to last til the night. Alternatively I found that 100 taken right at bedtime will leave one in a great state when they wake up and then 75 mg once you wake up and you can then do another redose 6 hours later.

If this were available in massive quantities I would be hard pressed to stay away. I really haven't had negatives with this except for finding out that food in stomach really plays a big part in how this guy works.

I didn't want to post my enjoyment of this compound due to the MXE people jumping all over it and ruining it, selfish? FUCK NO, can't get idiots doing some pulp fiction type shit due to implied similarities that are not there.
 
NiceEnough said:
I also experience warmth and euphoria with obvious dissociation but more clarity than say ketamine. I have had some really inspiring and life-enhancing conversations with close friends on this substance. The most I have ever dosed was 200mg - although this was strong, with moments where I had to 'hold on to my seat' so to speak, I did not experience anything I would call a 'hole'. However, personally, I see real potential for this substance in particular in terms of recreational dissociation, and have noticed positive effects that I feel would be valuable. Some have reported a hangover, I definitely experience an afterglow from this. One problem is definitely the duration, I often experience a 'droop' half way into the long experience, and I think it is helpful to add something (not more MXP I might add) about midpoint to get myself back on track. Wondering if others experience a dip at some point during their MXP trip? My guess is it could just be that I have used up all my energy and am quite simply tired, but because it goes on so long I feel the need to enhance the experience so I can continue with it in a positive and engaged manner. Back in the UK in a week and have 3g of this waiting for me. Looking forward to entering MXP space again. I know there don't seem to be many others on this site who share my enthusiasm for this substance, but I think used responsibly it can be both a lot of fun and very insightful.
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Yes I think the dip is part of how this substance works. I think that you and I are about on the same page with how this is, it is almost empathogenic in a dissociated way, very unique in that aspect, would you agree with that?
 
blowjay said:
When you crank it up to that notch, time dilation is out of the fucking frame, 5 minutes seems an hour at times. Lower doses can do similar time dilation just not to that extent.
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Funny, an hour on it seems like 5 minutes to me.
 
blowjay said:
You are IV'ing correct?
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I'm afraid I am, but it's the same when I take it orally.

I should warn anyone who considers this that I have a feeling it could be brutally habit forming. It's just a crazy rush and the serenity that follows is unmatched by all the opiates I've tried injecting intravenously.
 
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blowjay said:
Yes I think the dip is part of how this substance works. I think that you and I are about on the same page with how this is, it is almost empathogenic in a dissociated way, very unique in that aspect, would you agree with that?
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I think the empathogenic part of it could be to do with it relaxing you and reducing your inhibitions, therefore allowing you to speak more freely and openly with others. Nevertheless, psychedelics and even dissociative psychedelics can show us how we and everything else are connected, and this can bring awareness of us being the same as the other person or feeling what they are feeling etc. As I often say, I think the MXP experience very much depends on the mindset of the person. It is the same with all drugs really, but particularly the case with dissociatives I have found. They open a doorways in your mind so you can express yourself in new and exciting ways, hopefully reaching cosmic or transcendent heights. However, the kind of easy escapism they provide can make them very moreish and compulsively addictive, hence the need to be careful with them.

They are definitely useful tools, and MXP is an exciting if unique and special addition to the dissociative arsenal, but I really feel they don't take kindly to being abused and will really mess you up if you do abuse them. I am thinking of all my friends who have been destroyed by ketamine, and how ketamine nearly sent me into a psychosis before I was smart enough to stop. I still felt a horrible sense of depersonalisation and dysphoric dissociation for months afterwards. But I learnt my lesson for sure.
 
NiceEnough said:
They open a doorways in your mind so you can express yourself in new and exciting ways, hopefully reaching cosmic or transcendent heights. However, the kind of easy escapism they provide can make them very moreish and compulsively addictive, hence the need to be careful with them.
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Well said. Btw ketamine's effects on the body are by far the biggest problem. It will pretty much ruin all your internal organs to some degree. Not to speak of the damage it does to blood vessels when IV'ed. Crazy unhealthy stuff really, probably the most unhealthy of all currently popular drugs of abuse. We don't know shit about MXP yet though, so great care is definitely appropriate.

It seems to me that MXP much more habit forming than MXE or diphetidine, but less so than ketamine or pcp. That's just my experience, I'm not a fan of MXE anyway
 
i finally had a very nice experience with this substance. with 175 mg and eph.

but it took about 2 hours to fully kick in and started off stimulating and buzzy.
then it progresses to a dizzy and subtle dissociation.
i did some errands and realized how much reality was scewed
the problem was at the end ther was massive tunnel vision but as i tried to sleep with eyes closed and music i had some deep cevs
 
Im sorry I know this question has probably been asked before but this is a great long thread and I am only upto page 2, but for someone with no tolerance of MXP what is the best oral dose please?
Not looking to be plunged into dissociative hell, but would like an experience which maybe helps me gain some new perspectives on life or my feelings.
Ket is the only dissociative I have ever had, about a dozen times, small amounts, bumps and v.small lines, enjoyed it. My ket tolerance is really small.
I've been reading peoples experiences but they are all so varied, as I guess some people are more tolerant to dissociatives.

thanks in advance.
 
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thenightwatch said:
hardly, unless we're comparing excessive use of ketamine to moderate use of other drugs
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I was comparing excessive ketamine abuse to excessive abuse of other substances. Sure not many people use ketamine on a daily basis for several years, but those who do seem to acquire most severe issues with their somatic health. We won't have to get into the details here, but it might be time to for a separate thread since there have recently been a few articles on the devastating damage ketamine can do to our bodies.

No stimulant, opiate, benzo or psychedelic I know of will do comparable damage to your organs. When I have the time I will gather some reviews and try to summarize the data that is available for bluelight users. There aren't many who dedicate their lives to ketamine abuse, but those who do should be aware of how toxic the substance seems to be.

I shot up another 300mg MXP yesterday and went straight into transient psychosis. Very heavy stuff. Gonna write an experience report now eventhough I don't remember much.
 
3dmusic said:
Im sorry I know this question has probably been asked before but this is a great long thread and I am only upto page 2, but for someone with no tolerance of MXP what is the best oral dose please?
Not looking to be plunged into dissociative hell, but would like an experience which maybe helps me gain some new perspectives on life or my feelings.
Ket is the only dissociative I have ever had, about a dozen times, small amounts, bumps and v.small lines, enjoyed it. My ket tolerance is really small.
I've been reading peoples experiences but they are all so varied, as I guess some people are more tolerant to dissociatives.

thanks in advance.
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Try 70mg orally, wrapped in a rizla paper or two, that should be a good starting dose. Depending on how that goes, increase it to 100mg (but only if you are really comfortable with 70mg). A word of warning, you really need proper scales for this stuff, an error in amount can lead to the kind of trip it sounds like you really want to avoid. But treated with respect, I believe this is a really special chemical.

and re the variations in experience, I think this is down to how responsive this chemical is to the mood, personality, psychology of the person taking it, perhaps more so than many other drugs. It is a weird one, very hard to pin down. but incredibly rewarding, I have found, when done right (i.e. treated with respect)
 
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