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Opioids The Opioid Withdrawal Megathread and FAQ

100% true, I cant believe that. Opioid Withdrawal is one of the worst how could she not know about all those heroin accidict trying to stop. I feel like killing somebody because I dont get the health care that I obviously need.
 
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Do you think all the vomiting cause by the withdrawal can result into a Peptic ulcer??? All the symptom I read on wikipedia looks pretty much like what im living right now.

I returned to the hospital once again. Wow I finally got a nurse that taken me seriously and he place me into priority. Wow again, they got me a specialist of toxicomania that listen to the complete story and she got me exactly what I needed.

PANTOPRAZOLE !

I had my first complete meal in 2 weeks and I got 2,5 pounds back. If it continue like this I will probably get much better quite soon.
 
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Easing withdrawal from Oxycontin and oxycodone

Not sure where to post this, and it's my first posting so please excuse my noviceness.

I went cold turkey from Oxycontin last Monday and today is day 7. I used gabapentin (Neurontin) and baclofen as my primary meds to mediate the hell and they worked very well. I just wanted to tell the world to give it a try if you're going cold turkey. They are not a scheduled meds so you should be able to get a prescription and fill at online pharmacies. You might even be able to just order it from Canada. It literally saved me.

I was on 100mg/day for the last 14 months, with a two month detour on Sub in the middle.

There's a interesting scholarly article that discusses the link between GABA and opiates at http://www.jneurosci.org/content/22/9/3321.short

My experience is they made me tranquil and lethargic. This is better than the akathesia that I can't tolerate at all. I was not really able to go to work during these days but at least I was comfortable and I slept a lot.

It was way better than the time I tried suboxone. That shit is hell's hell to get off.
 
I'm glad it worked for you. If you use the search engine you'll find tons of threads about pregabalin/gabapentin working wonders for opioid withdrawal.

Homeless -> Other Drugs (Opioid Withdrawal Megathread)
 
Thanks for the correction on location. I think the significance of this posting and what differentiates it is there is a synergy between gabapentin and baclofen. The doses I used were very low of each: 600mg gabapentin plus 20mg baclofen two or three times a day. I just hear of so many suffering from withdrawals, or being so afraid of them that they never try it. A little research and preparation and the hell of detox (and cost of inpatient) can be avoided.
 
I am new to this thread and not sure how it works sorry. And new to all of this and I need some advice or information if anyone can help me out please.

I was injured about 10 years ago and after three major back surgeries my doctor prescribed dilaudid 8 mg orally 4 times daily. I have been taking that same prescription now for almost 8 years or more, I have never taken an extra pill and always took it as prescribed except some days I would only take 3 instead of 4. Now my back is strengthening and I want to stop the prescription if possible. I tried stopping without knowing what these pills really were and ended up feeling the aches etc after about 12 hours and took a pill and it went away. I realized I would need help after that and contacted a local hospital that has a rehab center in it and she said that it would take about a week in the hospital to get off of these things and that they would assist me in doing so.

My question is this, What should I expect to go through with them helping me get off of these things? I have a heart problem and read on here it could cause heart attacks etc? Is that something I should worry about or will they keep me safe and comfortable through this. I just want off of them so I dont have to take them every day. But after reading all of these WD symptoms on here it seems almost worth just taking the pill. lol Ive never been to a rehab or experienced anything like this so just wondered what to expect and what she means at the hospital when she says they will give me meds and stuff to keep me comfortable while getting off of them? Anyone have any info for me? thanks in advance
 
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I am new to this thread and not sure how it works sorry. And new to all of this and I need some advice or information if anyone can help me out please.

I was injured about 10 years ago and after three major back surgeries my doctor prescribed dilaudid 8 mg orally 4 times daily. I have been taking that same prescription now for almost 8 years or more, I have never taken an extra pill and always took it as prescribed except some days I would only take 3 instead of 4. Now my back is strengthening and I want to stop the prescription if possible. I tried stopping without knowing what these pills really were and ended up feeling the aches etc after about 12 hours and took a pill and it went away. I realized I would need help after that and contacted a local hospital that has a rehab center in it and she said that it would take about a week in the hospital to get off of these things and that they would assist me in doing so.

My question is this, What should I expect to go through with them helping me get off of these things? I have a heart problem and read on here it could cause heart attacks etc? Is that something I should worry about or will they keep me safe and comfortable through this. I just want off of them so I dont have to take them every day. But after reading all of these WD symptoms on here it seems almost worth just taking the pill. lol Ive never been to a rehab or experienced anything like this so just wondered what to expect and what she means at the hospital when she says they will give me meds and stuff to keep me comfortable while getting off of them? Anyone have any info for me? thanks in advance
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You've been taking Dilaudid for 8 years? Eeeh man..you're in for a rough time.

You're going to have to go do detox first before you're transferred to rehab, a lot of places have them in the same building.

As to what to expect psychically... they will medicate you to help with the symptoms and keep you under observation to make sure you stay safe, that's the point of checking into an inpatient facility. However, you still are going to go through some pain.. It's unavoidable.

You're not in detox long enough (only a week) for them to taper you down off a high dose of opiates and make the transition easier.. So, since you're only there for a short time, they have to give you the absolute bare minimum. For people with small habits sometimes this is enough to make it comfortable.. for others with larger habits that they've had for a long time (like you) the meds will help take the edge off but not much else.

You have to really want to get clean and remember that while you're going through the pain of withdrawal. Symptoms will include.

-Aches
-Water eyes/runny nose
-Nausea/vomiting
-Restless Legs
-Diarrhea
-Anxiety
-Cold sweats
-Etc.

Some detox's are good.. some are bad... so do your research big time before choosing one.

Good luck, man.
 
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Do you think all the vomiting cause by the withdrawal can result into a Peptic ulcer??? All the symptom I read on wikipedia looks pretty much like what im living right now.

I returned to the hospital once again. Wow I finally got a nurse that taken me seriously and he place me into priority. Wow again, they got me a specialist of toxicomania that listen to the complete story and she got me exactly what I needed.

PANTOPRAZOLE !

I had my first complete meal in 2 weeks and I got 2,5 pounds back. If it continue like this I will probably get much better quite soon.
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Let's have a hearty round of applause for PANTOPRAZOLE! I spent most of 2011 suffering from acute nausea, and my former care-withholder at The So-Called Pain Mgmt Group From Hell LLC shrugged it off. Then my internist and gastroenterologist ran tests on me, and sure enough--ulcers. Pantoprazole is a wonder drug that works quickly. People on a lot of oral meds with nausea should suspect ulcers as a possible cause: don't waste a year as I did!

Oh, and I found a new pain group, thank dog.
 
I'm alcohol free for 9 years now. I went through a MESS of alcoholism back then, drinking vodka around the clock and eventually went to rehab, got clean and stayed clean until i got into this new mess.

I have a great life, everything a sober person could want, great job, wife, kids, home, everything. So I've been having back problems on and off for a few years and It got severely bad 2 months ago. My doctor (who is against putting me on anything due to my history) put me on 120MG of oxycodone daily to keep me able to get around until we found out what's wrong.

Then the surgeon bumped me up to 2 OC40's daily along with 40mg of percocet for breakthrough or additional use if/when needed. On top of that I had some percocet left over from a past episode and I'm now taking the 2OC80's and about 200MG of percocet daily.

I've had the back surgery a week and a half ago. It was a success, all of the pain from pre-surgery is gone. I have some pain from the surgery itself but it's not too bad (but It's really hard to tell cause I'm still on a lot of meds).

Anyway, they're supposed to taper me off, starting today. I want to get this over with ASAP! I'm tired of being on this. I'm depressed, my sober friends are telling me to stop cold turkey and go through W/D and get it over with.

I have 25 suboxone that someone gave me if I wanted to go that route. Does anyone have any advice? If I should decide to do the suboxone, how should I start?
How much?
How do I avoid precipitated w/d?
What do I do if that happens?

In need of help...scared and just want this to be over.

Also....the last two days I tried to stop...or hold out as long as I could. Yesterday I made it to 2:15 before the W/d got bad enough and I gave in (kept my total use to 180Mg & 1 OC at bedtime.

Today i woke up and it was bad right away. Took 50mg at 9 and 30 at 10:30. Seems to be keeping the wd away, but I'm not happy, not comfortable, miserable etc.

Also....I have off the rest of this week, so I don't have to deal with work, but I do have my wife and kids here every day after 4...I'd hate to be going through w/d while they're here. If I can take suboxone and be normal...then taper that over a week I'd be the happiest man alive.
 
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I tampered off with adderrall with a succes, but I did slip at day 6 with 10mg. It's been about 2 weeks since that accrued. My question is "How long does it take for your nose to get back to normal". I used for lil over 1 1/2 year, no more that 60-90mg a day. Is there anything that can help the runny nose or any help with this issue.

Any help is appreciated :)
 
I've been on opiates for 14 years now; and have been on Suboxone for 2 of those years. Over the past 6.5 months I have tapered from 12mg daily to 2-4mg daily of sub. Here's what has helped:

1. Healthy Diet. I cook vegetarian food for myself and my boyfriend, but I'm not strict about it. What I am strict about is always eating fresh food, never drinking soda (10 years and counting), and never eating fast food (13 years and counting.) I quit nicotine in 2008. It's common sense that eating well makes you feel well. I've found that eating really well--mostly veggies, fruits, and lean protein like fish--makes my withdrawals that much more tolerable.

2. Exercise. This has been the single most helpful defense against withdrawals that I've found. I just make myself do 30 minutes a day. Getting the body accustomed to producing natural endorphins is the key here. It's also a good way of distracting myself from the discomfort of withdrawing. I switch it up to avoid getting bored: I do yoga, hike, walk, have sex, jog....if it's outside it feels even better. The more rigorous, the more sweat, the better. To reward myself and keep sweating I take a long hot sauna or hot tub--these almost make me forget about withdrawals completely.

3. Vitamins and Supplements. Every morning with breakfast I take Omega 3s, Vitamins B6, B12, C, D3, Magnesium, and Folic Acid; each works to regenerate and strengthen my neurotransmitters and help soothe the nervous system. Withdrawal is just as traumatic for our brains as it is to our bodies. We have to take good care of both as we battle the withdrawals each day.

4. Meds: A combo of gabapentin (WORKS WONDERS), Aleve for aches and pains, and diphenhydramine to help sleep is my daily combo of OTC + comfort meds.

Just my experience so far. I'm far from being out of the woods. But I thought I'd share some tactics to perhaps help others who can relate to my story. I wish you all good luck on your paths toward health.
 
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I've been taking opiates (mainly hydrocodone) for about 4 years now, started out every now and then for the first year and then constantly for the next two years. Over the past year I haven't been taking as much due to supply. I take them when I have them and just deal with it when I don't, its really not pretty. Tried the tapper down technique, never works I always give in. I've gone anywhere from 1 day to 11 days without them over the past year probably about 12-15 times. I tell myself I shouldn't, but I always give into temptation. Gabapentin works wonders for withdrawals by the way. I'm wondering if since I've gone through wd's so many times, that if with each time they last longer because my body gets used to not having them for tthose few days about once or twice a month. Used to be about 100-200mgs a day, over the past year only about 50-100mgs a day so the wd's aren't too bad, but I do have a family that I feel suffers from this for a couple days everytime I run out. I guess I'm just wondering if I'm f'ing myself but going through this so often or if the time frame for withdrawals will always be the same?
 
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Let's have a hearty round of applause for PANTOPRAZOLE! I spent most of 2011 suffering from acute nausea, and my former care-withholder at The So-Called Pain Mgmt Group From Hell LLC shrugged it off. Then my internist and gastroenterologist ran tests on me, and sure enough--ulcers. Pantoprazole is a wonder drug that works quickly. People on a lot of oral meds with nausea should suspect ulcers as a possible cause: don't waste a year as I did!

Oh, and I found a new pain group, thank dog.
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Its so wrong, they told me to take Dimenhydrinate, then Ondansetron. I told them I was not nauseous, I had pain in my stomach and I was vomiting after eating or drinking anything.
 
Minimizing the withdraws from H

Hey y'all
Just tapered off as best as I could. No more H left except for old cottons I've saved. I'm trying to sleep and can't stop getting the twitches. I expect another long night. Any suggestions to aid in quitting this amazingly horrible drug with ease? Aside from NyQuil and sleeping pills - or are those my only answers.
 
Sleeping pills don't work as well thru out the WDs, they help you fall asleep but don't keep you a sleep. After my personal tamper off expirience I used 1mg of Benz.etc remember two don't go together well but at low dosage it's smooth sailing thru out the night. Out of 7 nights I had one toss and turn at day 2 and lil issues at day 5, witch makes me think that's when the final day of substance leaving my body. Do research on dosages and combinations, I spend over weeks before I attempted mine and made sure that I didn't have to run nowhere to resupply of amps or Benz. Total duration was 10 days, with last three just PAWS witch suck.
You have clearly went thru the phisical part of the process and now just stay busy, change routine, don't hang with people that used or are still using. All these helped me get thru all of the steps, even now clean from everything, but a lil cannibus. <-you can also try lil cannabis for help with sleep, but I wouldn't recommend to do with sleeping pills.
Best of Luck to Ya- you got this far, don't look back
 
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