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Whats the first symptom YOU personally have that lets you know youre starting to W/D?

I suppose runny nose is the first thing but hardly a nuisance compared to the next. The leg cramps are the worst by far IME and they get worse each kick. Thats how kicking got its name. People would little kick in the air back in the day when people got put in straight jackets and rubber-roomed. Hell I do bicycle movements with my legs all the time trying to relieve the cramps. Its awful. I pray for the cold sweats to come back as they aint shit compared to the leg cramps. I think the longer you use the more insanely unbearable the leg cramps get. I wanted to top myself so bad last time I kicked. I literally asked my mum if she would be cool with it if I shot myself and whether I should put on my best suit or not and whether I should do it outside or inside. She was at a loss for words or tears. She pretty much gave me to go ahead. I guess I felt like life can be absolutly beautiful but Ive sure dug a fucking deep hole. Im usually the type to never consider suicide but I hate those fucking leg cramps. Im cool now if anyone is freaking out over this. It was a ways back.
 
First for me tends to be just feeling super out of it. It's kind of like being sick with the flu for me, not really recognizing what I'm feeling or my normal instincts to eat, drink, etc. until they've gotten worse. I'm just preoccupied with throbbing back spinal pain, usually. I tend to try to "run-out" in the evening so that I can sleep and mentally prepare myself for the shitstorm I know I'll be thrown into the next day.
 
I start off by getting ultra agro at everything. Then my knees start hurting like a bitch and I get the sniffles. That's usually how I know I'm not in for a good time.
 
I start withdrawling the second im in the back of a cop car.

It begins with yawning, then restlessness and irritability. Not quite at the full on RLS stage but just annoying constant stretching and not being able to sit still. Then overheating. Watery eyes. And a nornal crap. Then the watery craps come. Then sneezes in successions of 4-8 at a time. Then full on WD.

Oh yea and the sweats are a first sign. Thick, stinky,soupy, non stop greasy dripping sweat to the point my clothes are damp.
 
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back pain is the first thing....while most opiates will keep my sickness at bay for 24 hours almost no opiate keeps my pain away for longer than 6-8.


from there is runny nose, sweaty palms, yawning/watery eyes.
 
For me, and this is going to sound really weird and disgusting, but it's this weird sort of slimy, thick, mucousy saliva in the back of my throat. Then comes the cramping in my back and the sweating, hot flashes, and the chills all typically at the same time. But the very first symptom is that thick, uncomfortable saliva in my mouth. Not sure what the explanation could be for that, as I've never heard of anyone else ever mentioning it before.

HOLY FUCK DO I HATE THAT SHIT.



when i was kinda bad on dope that was the thing that made me yack every morning. it wasnt from feeling sick, or from WDs really, it was from coughing up that thick mucus shit. horrible. fucking horrible.
 
haaaaaa. what up, fellow degenerate female =D

someone said they dont notice increased sex drive...well, it aint really increased SEX drive more like increased whack drive lol. sex with another person would be way too much work.

when i used to be on dope hardcore and was actively addicted sometimes Id just lay in bed for hours sweating freezing and compulsively fapping lmao. like i said...fuckin degenerate hahaha.

Completely agree with this. I remember my ex once told me to masterbate when WDing because the short rush of feel good makes you feel normal for a few short, beautiful moments. I get this deep pounding throb in my clit and i can masterbate and cum nunerous times which is inpossible for me when not WDing. But sometimes the feeling gets annoying and is too strong and overwhelming so i have to punch my labia. Its not always a pleasant horniness sometimes its a desperate painful frustrating urge that makes me cross my legs real tight and squeeze to try and dull the hypersensation goin on down there. Its like this crazy awakening of a beast thats been in deep hybernation. Its not really enjoyable. Its such a strange feeling.
 
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Completely agree with this. I remember my ex once told me to masterbate when WDing because the short rush of feel good makes you feel normal for a few short, beautiful moments. I get this deep pounding throb in my clit and i can masterbate and cum nunerous times which is inpossible for me when not WDing. But sometimes the feeling gets annoying and is too strong and overwhelming so i have to punch my labia. Its not always a pleasant horniness sometimes its a desperate painful frustrating urge that makes me cross my legs real tight and squeeze to try and dull the hypersensation goin on down there. Its like this crazy awakening of a beast thats been in deep hybernation. Its not really enjoyable. Its such a strange feeling.

Damn now I'm horny!
 
Pain, yawning, watery eyes, anxiety, toug to regulate temp. Pretty easy thoug to just do something that can take my mind of the early stuff, like intense activity or work. Anything stimulating. Amazing when the mind is distracted how i could go nearly twelve hours when normally i would dose after four or six at most. Pain sucks the worst though.:-):-):-)
 
Sniffles, teary eyes, and body temp.
Also, sneezing. Once I do the 'sneeze three times in a row' I know I'm beginning to get sick.
 
Completely agree with this. I remember my ex once told me to masterbate when WDing because the short rush of feel good makes you feel normal for a few short, beautiful moments. I get this deep pounding throb in my clit and i can masterbate and cum nunerous times which is inpossible for me when not WDing. But sometimes the feeling gets annoying and is too strong and overwhelming so i have to punch my labia. Its not always a pleasant horniness sometimes its a desperate painful frustrating urge that makes me cross my legs real tight and squeeze to try and dull the hypersensation goin on down there. Its like this crazy awakening of a beast thats been in deep hybernation. Its not really enjoyable. Its such a strange feeling.

Personally my sex drive that has been dormant returns with a vengeance and I end up wanking off 6-8 times a day for a spell. My penis wont take no for an answer from my hand. It does seem to give me a great deal of wd relief though quite temporary. I get erections so intense that I have no choice but to service them.

After that phase subsides I get the absolute need to get laid and start calling ex's that still want to have sex. It always turns into an all night grinder session. I end up dropping my standards sometimes coming off opies as the built up complete removal of any sex drive has a rebound effect of rubber ball slammed on the ground and than lands on top of a roof in my case.

Its good for me though because I feel the need to exercise and eat healthy to find the best possible sexual partners ASAP. But yeah Id say increased sex drive isnt the first symptom for me, but more like the end result. Its almost cumulative and than I end up wanting more sex than one woman can provide.

Im giving a honest go this time and will go a bit into it with more than just an attempt at a balance. I think I have an absolute need to find a balance to stay clean.

Oh and I find the release of the hibernation incredibly enjoyable despite how embarassingly fast those first few wanks go. I dunno how I can be embarassed about cumming from hardly any stimulation at all when Im first coming off the skag, but it subides by the time Im actually able to move enough to have sex.
 
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From opiates (which are my personal favorite doc) A runny nose and cramps/back pain and a general sensitivity to all that is painful and unhappy

This exactly.

And the shitting. Unlike most, that's one of the first things to hit me. Within an hour of the aches setting in, I already need a bathroom and it's not a relaxing experience. Not full blown yet, but a definite un-welcome change when you're used to being mildly constipated all the time.



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I get this deep pounding throb in my clit and i can masterbate and cum nunerous times. But sometimes the feeling gets annoying and is too strong and overwhelming so i have to punch my labia. Its not always a pleasant horniness sometimes its a desperate painful frustrating urge that makes me cross my legs real tight and squeeze to try and dull the hypersensation goin on down there. Its like this crazy awakening of a beast thats been in deep hybernation. Its not really enjoyable. Its such a strange feeling.
god yes.
 
From opiates, the only thing I've withdrawn from, it's usually the runny nose, general mild aches, and a sense of foreboding anxiety.
 
I suppose runny nose is the first thing but hardly a nuisance compared to the next. The leg cramps are the worst by far IME and they get worse each kick. Thats how kicking got its name. People would little kick in the air back in the day when people got put in straight jackets and rubber-roomed. Hell I do bicycle movements with my legs all the time trying to relieve the cramps. Its awful. I pray for the cold sweats to come back as they aint shit compared to the leg cramps. I think the longer you use the more insanely unbearable the leg cramps get. I wanted to top myself so bad last time I kicked. I literally asked my mum if she would be cool with it if I shot myself and whether I should put on my best suit or not and whether I should do it outside or inside. She was at a loss for words or tears. She pretty much gave me to go ahead. I guess I felt like life can be absolutly beautiful but Ive sure dug a fucking deep hole. Im usually the type to never consider suicide but I hate those fucking leg cramps. Im cool now if anyone is freaking out over this. It was a ways back.

Try to get a hold of some pregabalin or gabapentin, the latter being less potent
Ime lyrica is the only thing that ever helped with rls and other mild wd symptoms
 
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