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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy Allylescaline Thread

There was so much hype surrounding this compound, and other mescaline analogues, when the RC community was thinking about having it synthed. But it looks like a bit of a washout to me. Maybe it just hasn't been explored in a high enough dose yet, but the reports so far don't excite me to go and buy a sample. Thanks to those of you who did try it and subsequently reported their findings here though. It's great to add to the community knowledgebase!

Soul137 said:
All of a sudden my stomach just said "fuck that stuff."
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:D Great write up, thanks!

So you think this is more of an entactogen than a psychedelic? You make lots of references to "bubbles" in your report. Was that a recurring theme during the trip, or is that simply your expressive style?
 
Survived Abortion said:
So you think this is more of an entactogen than a psychedelic? You make lots of references to "bubbles" in your report. Was that a recurring theme during the trip, or is that simply your expressive style?
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Not style. A friend just found a bunch of bubble soap somewhere in his basement or something. We just spent a while at several different intervals, in his sunny backyard, blowing bubbles. We had fun experimenting with different bubble soap and bubble gun techniques to produce only vaguely different results. I guess it did become a theme though. I made many interesting connections with varying degrees of relevance to bubbles.

As for the comment Allylescaline being an entactogen, I'd say yes... hesitantly. It certainly wasn't like rolling. But it wasn't really tripping either. The reason I say entactogen is that the predominant effects were good feelings. I don't think (and this is a big think after only one experiment) that it could produce a full trip. i will note that they didn't come with empathy like and compassion like rolling. I was more involved in my own good feelings than the good vibes of EVERYTHING.

again though, I'm not quite ready to close the book on this one. I wanna hear MrDaimondFDC's report. Maybe he can give us hope for this chem at high doses
 
okay, i've got a sample of 65mg of this and like many others im trying to get the most out of this material that i possibly can.

does anyone have experience with insufflation?
 
I would like to mention that in the 2 days since my dose I have been unusually irritable. I got angry very quickly at stupid situations. This lead to a panic attack about 48 hours after dosing.
I don't know if it was the drug, or just be being depressed and angry at myself, that has lead to this irritability .
I just thought I should mention it for others who decide to test this chemical.
 
^There are others who have mentioned the same negative after-effects from this chemical. Reading through this thread, it seems to be pretty common actually. Thanks for sharing; it makes you wonder if it has some appreciable level of temporary neurotoxicity. Or maybe it causes a depletion of particular neurotransmitters?
 
IME most phens leave me irritable the next day. 2c-e was always good for that. I haven't tried my sample of allylescaline yet, so I can't comment on it.

I don't recommend it, but I like to have a good trypt experience a day or two after a phen experience. It seems to help balance me back out and integrate the phen experience. I do love my trypts though.
 
100mg+ is certainly forcing it and would count as excessive in my view. Very interested in the results of your experiment though. My guess is, it wouldnt do much more than, say 60mg for me (I suspect the stuff has an almost logarithmic dose response curve until you reach clearly toxic levels).

Use the stuff as easygoing intoxicant with psychedelic overtones at occasions where retaining self control or interaction with square or sober folk is unavoidable. Good alternative to alcohol if you want to give a given day a special glow. It`s a niche product not the mescaline alternative everybody was hoping for. This should be accepted by now/
 
agnetha said:
100mg+ is certainly forcing it and would count as excessive in my view. Very interested in the results of your experiment though. My guess is, it wouldnt do much more than, say 60mg for me (I suspect the stuff has an almost logarithmic dose response curve until you reach clearly toxic levels).

Use the stuff as easygoing intoxicant with psychedelic overtones at occasions where retaining self control or interaction with square or sober folk is unavoidable. Good alternative to alcohol if you want to give a given day a special glow. It`s a niche product not the mescaline alternative everybody was hoping for. This should be accepted by now/
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That seems to be a good summary from all that I have read about it. I haven't really had the motivation to try my sample yet.
 
I got some of this compound recently. Not really keen on trying it yet but I did snort maybe 5 mg just to see if it burned much. Could definitely feel burn. No significant effects from it. From the reports here it looks like another waste of my money. I'll try it sometime when I have 12 hours to devote to it.

I have a bunch of different RCs just sitting in a drawer and I have no real desire to use any of them again, the 2cx compounds, the 25x NBOMES, some diallytryptamine. As it stands now, the only mescaline analogue I think may have potential is jimscaline. 3-5 times the potency of mescaline and substitutes for LSD in drug discrimination tests (or whatever the correct term is), according to the description by Nichols et al. I don't know if that's animal tests or human. Looks interesting though. Oddly, no sources yet. Must he hard to produce or something, or maybe nobody just got around to it yet.

Anyway, since this is an allylescaline thread, my main point is that it doesn't seem to be a good compound to snort, judging from my little test. My other point, which is somewhat related, is that I needs me some jimscaline.
 
Yeah I decided against it, ill be ingesting ~39mgs tonight in combo with 240ug of LSD. Ill actually report back this time lol
 
That combo was by far one of the best I have ever tried. We split up 39mg each into some water and it started hitting us within 10 minutes. by the time the LSD was peaking, we were already nicely tripping and it was a great mood to be in before transport to Lucy Land.

The visuals were too TOO strong but they were definitely there, as well as combined with the familiar phen feeling and just general wonky atmosphere. I would definitely get this again.
 
Didn't the LSD just overpower the AL? From your description, everything could be attributed to the acid alone.
 
immad said:
Didn't the LSD just overpower the AL? From your description, everything could be attributed to the acid alone.
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Nope they had great synergy, I felt each of them working together very well and each of my friends agreed. I came down from the Allylescaline sooner then the LSD, and the enter trip didn't feel like LSD alone. The Allylescaline made me very talkative, even more so than I already am on LSD.
 
I suppose that doing a combo for my first time would be a bad thing, but maybe I should just eat my 60mg sample orally then when I'm getting the jist of what its gonna be like do a blotter of 600mcg 25c?

I feel like they would probably both come down at the same time.

Also, 25c is a very talkative, stony, relaxing psychedelic for me, and it seems like it could be pretty synergistic?

anyone think this is a good idea?
 
There are some posts in the 25I thread about combining it with mescaline, so I imagine 25C + AL could be similar.
 
I just tried this stuff today. 28 mg in orange juice 3 hours ago. Definitely not hitting the right combination of receptors. General gastro unease and body weakness are the main effects. Slight visual effects, like a general spongeyness to things, slight movement. Nothing that makes it preferable to being completely normal. Not erotic at all. You just want to lay down until it passes so the slight sick feeling will go away. Feels like something that might be good for a cactus to use to keep people from eating it, that's about its only value though, IMO. I think it hits 5-HT2b receptors more than anything else, which just makes you feel sickly. In conclusion, just another complete waste of money. The jimscaline article by Nichols only mentioned 5-HT2a and c agonism. Maybe that's the only thing that won't make you feel sick.
 
You're not supposed to put PEA structured chems into acidic drinks it lessens the absorption, apparently a more basic environment potentiates the absorption so you should take a tums before it next time.
 
Damn not to sound like a dick but I was really hoping for that 100+ experiment so it could atleast put an end to some things. Of course I want no harm to happen to the ingester but I have my doubts it would anyways but ah well maybe someone will get around to it someday or maybe this one is just a begign one as is......
 
^TBH, me too. There's one guy that says everyone's not taking enough, then there's this guy that says its food poisoning..
 
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