I might have long term damges from the use of DXM how do I know?

I was kinda comparing it to ketamine, A high dose of ketamine i feel a bit wrecked, 24 hours later (It being a dopamine reuptake inhibitor) i feel like im able to perform 110%, my cognitive and concentration abilities are beyond normal.
Just saying i felt the effects of DXM lingered on and it felt like they would never go away.
When i did DXM i was cross eyed for 6 days and walking weird for days.


It took about 6 weeks but i did make a full recovery from it i'd say... haha what stupidity i used to have

Actually by normal uses of DXM I felt very extremly energetic and smart the next day but if you over do it and use it recreational permantly for weeks or over weeks it does the exsact opisate I would say the all the positive experinece the drug gave me gave it back in the doubled maby trippled negativ experince like all drugs you abuse. I define abusing tkaing a drug more than 3 times.
 
No this is the thing it is not legal in higher doses. But the meds just can forbid it becasue it is used in to many drugs agains coughfing. If this werent used as coughf sysrup it would be illegal like any other drug. If I went to a docter he would probably tele the police and it would go in my police papers. Doing drugs with the age of 14 I can see it right now I really dont want that I am on a good school I get good grades and I have some nice friends here to I dont want everyone to know. By now 3 poeple know of my friends it doesnt really help though becasue they dont really care cause they dont know what its like...

You're not going to go to jail for misreading the instructions. You're just hurting yourself.
 
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^Do you use a choline bond with piracetam? I only got to sample a little piracetam the last time I was stocked on phenibut. It's certainly on my list to get back.

Sometimes I use choline. Specifically, choline bitartrate. Generally I find the piracetam on its own, in high doses (1500+) works well enough. I also use ALA sometimes, but it's certainly not that necessary. I want to get some DHEA to add to my stack, but, well, I'm happy enough with my piracetam.

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what is it and where can I get it as an 14 year old can it be abused?

We can't source on BL, so I can't tell you where to get it. Search google/google shopping and you'll find it. There is no way one can abuse it. Yes, even a 14-year old can legally use it in the USA (might depend on your country's specific laws; I know in some EU states piracetam is/was prescribed to treat ADHD). You just need a way to order it from the net. My fav is this brand
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@lars90 - SEE: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...-the-Acute-Stage-of-Heroin-W-D-AND-addiction-! and http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/602566-Reducing-Hangovers-and-Sluggishness-with-Piracetam and the nootropics megathread

Hehehe, lars90, you Nonuple Poster, you :p You certainly put Double Posters everywhere to shame, my friend ;)
 
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Sometimes I use choline. Specifically, choline bitartrate. Generally I find the piracetam on its own, in high doses (1500+) works well enough. I also use ALA sometimes, but it's certainly not that necessary. I want to get some DHEA to add to my stack, but, well, I'm happy enough with my piracetam.



We can't source on BL, so I can't tell you where to get it. Search google/google shopping and you'll find it. There is no way one can abuse it. Yes, even a 14-year old can legally use it in the USA (might depend on your country's specific laws; I know in some EU states piracetam is/was prescribed to treat ADHD). You just need a way to order it from the net. My fav is this brand
21jGbzFQZEL._SL500_AA300_.jpg


@lars90 - SEE: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...-the-Acute-Stage-of-Heroin-W-D-AND-addiction-! and http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/602566-Reducing-Hangovers-and-Sluggishness-with-Piracetam and the nootropics megathread

Hehehe, lars90, you Nonuple Poster, you :p You certainly put Double Posters everywhere to shame, my friend ;)
Intresting what does it actully do. I live in germany... What is it actully used for and what the hell is ADHD ?

I dont double post I only make indivdual post for everyone because everyone earns it :) and hell no im not trying to get my post count up that would really be pour ... sense it has nothing to do with knowlage
 
Regardless, I find you to be quite the character lars90 :) I guess it's more that I'm ten years your senior, which makes me feel old and crotchety. Which is funny, considering 24-year olds normally don't think of themselves as old and crotchety ;)

FYI, you shouldn't have any problems getting/using piracetam in Germany. You could even ask you primary care doctor about it if you'd like. But regardless you can still order it legally online.

Basically, I think the way piracetam is supposed to work is by "oxygenating your brain," or something. Of course that's probably as extreme oversimplification (and thus ultimately incorrect and inherently flawed explanation) as one could make up... In my experience, I find that piracetam as well as other racetam drugs (piracetam is like the original/oldest/most common racetam, if memory serves) negate many of the negative dissociative side effects of DXM (as well as other NDMA receptor antagonists like ketamine). I also believe it might negate any possible DXM neurotoxicity, although I have no real facts to back this assumption up. Just a feeling from extensive use on my part.

Well, tbh, you really should just look it up yourself. I posted the link to the nootropics megathread, so there is info there on how they work (also you can search google/BL to find out more about piracetam). The same goes for ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder).

If you were to check out the nootropics megathread or search about it on google or wikipedia, you'd learn that piracetam is used to enhance memory recall and general cognative ability. Other, newer more novel racetams (of the same drug family as piracetam) are used to treat certain degenerative diseases as well. Again, Piracetam is/was used in some countries to treat ADHD instead of amphetamine salts or related stimulants.

And regarding the multiple strings of post, well, of course I don't really mind. But to keep things neat and all you might want to consider just replying to multiple people in one post - saves space and makes it easier with less scrolling, etc. etc. But this is not such a big deal, at least as far as I'm concerned.

And regarding the Doctor bit, well, of course I'd recommend this. But I would step lightly, and try to find the best possible doctor, preferably who has experience with addiction/drug abuse. From my own, similar experiences with DXM, however, I'm not too worried for ya. It's scary as shit, trust me, I know. But I'd bet you almost anything that things will get better, assuming you lay off the drugs and DXM, take care of yourself and get good rest and eat well. Don't push yourself too hard.

My one concern about seeing a doctor is that if you told a doctor about this and he flipped out and put you on some crazy antidepressant or antipsychotic regiment or something, which would be a more knee-jerk reaction to the fact you are 14 and abusing/using DXM to get high (which, as you already probably have figured out, isn't the safest sort of way to have fun). That wouldn't necessarily help as much as just eating and resting properly and not putting yourself under too much pressure.
 
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Listen to Effie. They are right. I didn't have a problem with depersonalization until I started abusing DXM. Although I was doing about 1000mgs with CPM every other day. From my drug usage, I have heart problems now and horrible HORRIBLE anxiety. Depersonalization just makes my anxiety worse. It'd be best for you to stay away from drugs in general unless you want to end up like me.. The good part is that your brain has a chance to heal itself, and this episode will pass with time. My problem is that I abused coricidin for years until it fucked me all up mentally and physically. Hang in there, you'll be fine in another couple of months.

Oh yea, are you taking any other medications we don't know about..?

Message me if you need to talk. I'd consider myself an expert when dealing with DXM.
 
Regardless, I find you to be quite the character lars90 :) I guess it's more that I'm ten years your senior, which makes me feel old and crotchety. Which is funny, considering 24-year olds normally don't think of themselves as old and crotchety ;)

FYI, you shouldn't have any problems getting/using piracetam in Germany. You could even ask you primary care doctor about it if you'd like. But regardless you can still order it legally online.

Basically, I think the way piracetam is supposed to work is by "oxygenating your brain," or something. Of course that's probably as extreme oversimplification (and thus ultimately incorrect and inherently flawed explanation) as one could make up... In my experience, I find that piracetam as well as other racetam drugs (piracetam is like the original/oldest/most common racetam, if memory serves) negate many of the negative dissociative side effects of DXM (as well as other NDMA receptor antagonists like ketamine). I also believe it might negate any possible DXM neurotoxicity, although I have no real facts to back this assumption up. Just a feeling from extensive use on my part.

Well, tbh, you really should just look it up yourself. I posted the link to the nootropics megathread, so there is info there on how they work (also you can search google/BL to find out more about piracetam). The same goes for ADHD (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder).

If you were to check out the nootropics megathread or search about it on google or wikipedia, you'd learn that piracetam is used to enhance memory recall and general cognative ability. Other, newer more novel racetams (of the same drug family as piracetam) are used to treat certain degenerative diseases as well. Again, Piracetam is/was used in some countries to treat ADHD instead of amphetamine salts or related stimulants.

And regarding the multiple strings of post, well, of course I don't really mind. But to keep things neat and all you might want to consider just replying to multiple people in one post - saves space and makes it easier with less scrolling, etc. etc. But this is not such a big deal, at least as far as I'm concerned.

And regarding the Doctor bit, well, of course I'd recommend this. But I would step lightly, and try to find the best possible doctor, preferably who has experience with addiction/drug abuse. From my own, similar experiences with DXM, however, I'm not too worried for ya. It's scary as shit, trust me, I know. But I'd bet you almost anything that things will get better, assuming you lay off the drugs and DXM, take care of yourself and get good rest and eat well. Don't push yourself too hard.

My one concern about seeing a doctor is that if you told a doctor about this and he flipped out and put you on some crazy antidepressant or antipsychotic regiment or something, which would be a more knee-jerk reaction to the fact you are 14 and abusing/using DXM to get high (which, as you already probably have figured out, isn't the safest sort of way to have fun). That wouldn't necessarily help as much as just eating and resting properly and not putting yourself under too much pressure.

I have a lower term of HDHD I have ADS. THe only thing I am still really scared of is that it will come back this week. Now its been 2 weeks exsacly sense the side effeks kicked in what if they kick in again?

Don't procrastinate. Leave a voice mail with your doctor if you can't see him/her. The medical industry is not out to arrest you, they are there to help.

I dont wanna tell my parents they would just hate me fordoing it. Do you think I could call anonomosly?
 
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I have a lower term of HDHD I have ADS.

What do HDHD and ADS stand for?

If I were you I wouldn't want my parents to know about the DXM (ab)use either. Is there any way you can make the appointment yourself? Is your doctor prohibited from informing your parents about what's going on, given that you're only 14 and, I assume according to German law, a minor?

Maybe you can get in touch with a doctor who doesn't know/isn't involved with your parents/relatives. As long as you're not getting any worse, I wouldn't worry about it TOO much. It's just standard good advice to seek professional medical advice in cases such as yours, when the negative side effects of one's drug (ab)use are so acute.
 
Intresting what does it actully do. I live in germany... What is it actully used for and what the hell is ADHD ?

I dont double post I only make indivdual post for everyone because everyone earns it :) and hell no im not trying to get my post count up that would really be pour ... sense it has nothing to do with knowlage

I went to the store today and told the med who was standing at the place you pay for the medications that my ffirend told me itz helps against medication but then he said you have to get an perscription for it :( ...

But I can finally say I am alm ost back to normal I can remeber stuff better way better I hardly have a short term memory my thoughs are not that conplex anymore that I cant understand them and I can picture what happend last week again ... So timesI only get the feeling of unreality.

The thing which helped me more than anything else was going in to the sauna once a day. I know it sounds kind of dumb but it really helped + it fills the craving so that I dont have to think about DXM.

What do HDHD and ADS stand for?

If I were you I wouldn't want my parents to know about the DXM (ab)use either. Is there any way you can make the appointment yourself? Is your doctor prohibited from informing your parents about what's going on, given that you're only 14 and, I assume according to German law, a minor?

Maybe you can get in touch with a doctor who doesn't know/isn't involved with your parents/relatives. As long as you're not getting any worse, I wouldn't worry about it TOO much. It's just standard good advice to seek professional medical advice in cases such as yours, when the negative side effects of one's drug (ab)use are so acute.

Oh I missspellt it I think its ADHD not HDHD... It stands for attention deficit syndrome .
I use to always have to touch everything always had something in my hand and was feeling it and stuff. I got a medication for it which made me feel depresive and smal and quiet. I quit taking it though sense the age of 11
 
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Yea, I figured it was just as typo. Glad to hear you're feeling better. The stuff about the sauna actually makes a lot of sense. It's all about letting your body heal itself, so a sauna would be idea. Just keep being good to yourself and you'll be back to your your old self in no time! Be well, my friend!!! :)
 
Yea, I figured it was just as typo. Glad to hear you're feeling better. The stuff about the sauna actually makes a lot of sense. It's all about letting your body heal itself, so a sauna would be idea. Just keep being good to yourself and you'll be back to your your old self in no time! Be well, my friend!!! :)

My thoughts are normal my memory is to I only have 1 more problem now :( I hope that will fade with the time. Um When I concentrate for a very lkng time I feel flucherated like when you were just thinking a long time and just had to slove a lot of equations or ad to concentte really hard to understand after wards you feel chilled and shortly flucterated well I went to bed at 12pm yeasturday woke up at 7 and had to wach little kids play tennis and count their points and stuff. I had to concentrate for like 4 hours strate and now after 1 hour I still feel flucherated... I hope it will get better soon.
 
It will, trust me. But if you want more assurance, see a medical professional.

I can do this alone I know I can I got friendfs to talk to and it is nothing like anything else I have not far close as hardcore as everything else. It has almost faded fully now.

Do you think I will get any heart problems from this if not how long will it take until my heart finally starts beating normal agaoin not jumping one heard beat or punding as hard?
 
That is anxiety from having fears of another depersonalization episode. Stop dwelling on the negative. Some things you just can't change, but many things you can. Put your efforts into focusing on the positive and see what happens.
 
That is anxiety from having fears of another depersonalization episode. Stop dwelling on the negative. Some things you just can't change, but many things you can. Put your efforts into focusing on the positive and see what happens.

Well it isent really time to worry yet. I should start worrying in 3 months when the drug should fully be out of my system. Am I right? I will just overplay this chaper of my life its not that bad what hAppend. I just will never take drugs again Im happy I leared at a jonger age then at an older hwere I would have went way farther than pletau 2

anxiety stay for ever ? Or only until you get over it? Since the drug first mad emy haet beat really stong and rapidly and now still rapidly but not as stong and it still skipps some heard beats hwich it catches up with by doing 2 heartbeats which are doubled as fast I dont think its anxiety. I should jsut give this time. I get depreshions evry now and then but not to often like every 3 days. Friends and sports are a huge help.
 
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