I might have long term damges from the use of DXM how do I know?

[lars90]

Well I am only 14 years old and I waigh 60kg and am 174cm tall.
I took DXM 6 Times never went over the second pletau only once (the highest dose) I took 300mg. The first time I took 110mg, then 180mg, then 300mg, then 210mg and before 3 weeks and 6 days I took 180mg. I had a long 2 week hangover which felt like I was drunk all the time and I felt drowsy plus I had a fast heat beat. Then after 2 weeks I felt the side effekts kicked in. I had wiered dreams sudently felt really high again but not as good as before and I had a tunnel view in the frist day. Then the second day I felt like nothing was real. The third day I felt drunk had a fast hear beat diarea sleep difshansys, bad memory and bad concentation which has gotten better after the wieder dreams. I still feel stupid sometimes still after the 27th day and I just cant concentrate very good when I jsut told a joke and after that a nother one I cant remeber the first one. When I drink like 3 leters of water I feel high again wtf? I feel I got 10% dumber then when I was before. Are these long term damages? I get depreshions sometimes as well.

And If these are long term damges is their any treatment for it would it help to go to the docter could he help me in any way. If I wait to long will it be to late? Will it get worse if I dont tell the docter?

Holly fucking shit Im so scared ....


UPDATE 30 March 2012 :
Now It has been 10 weeks exsacly now! The only thinks I still have are bad short, long term memory (will explain more closly later), BAd picture memory, Snowy vison (not to trubled with this) and muscle tics.

Short term memory: Its like I am talking with a friend or cosin and after a while I cant rember what we were tlaking about.
Long term memory: I am sure that this has gotten alöot worse since I can only always reember fragtiles of memorys. When I think back of soemthing I rember only one part of the memory and the rest ist kinda hard its like I cant get to that part so easy anymore I spen minutes thinking about it until I get it.
Picture memory: Im not sure if this has gotten better or worse. I can remebr faces but When I think of them Ionly have ashort gasp until it gets black ot changes. I could compare these things to a person who was operated on his brain and reeaved damges from it. Some people are not able to name things which they see with their left eye because some kind of connections or synapeses are missing in the brain. SO when ever they try they jsut fail. I could compare this with my damages. When ever I try I kinda fail. ITs ahrtder than it use to be.
Snowy Vision: It has gotten better I can say but its relativ cause it changes alot. I am kinda wondering if it jsut eye dmage or if it is brain damage. Okay Ill try to explain this as good as I can. First it was like lights burn into my site as black spots for minutes. They still do but only for seconds. Then this usally only happens when you keep your eyes open for a long time they start like hurting like burning. This would ahppen after 3 seconds of open eyes. THen today while playing tennis I knotice like little long eye lash things on my eye.
Muscel tics: Ill lay in bed and this only happens in bed my muscle will just have a tic mostly jsut my right leg.



Hmm so my questuo nis not anymore "Oh my god I have long term damges will this ever go away?" but when will this fade how many weeks months or years?





I will reply to everyone who makes a High quality post and is sirious

 

[lars90]

why isent anybody replying please guys help me

 

[effie]

Hey there, I'm really sorry to hear about your bad experience

Sometimes dissociatives such as DXM can trigger depersonalisation/derealisation - feeling detatched from yourself and your environment, and a sensation of unreality. It sounds like that happened to you, and that you have developed some anxiety too, perhaps relating to your symptoms. These are very unlikely to be permanent, although I appreciate how scary they are! You definitely should stay away from dissociatives, all drugs really, and take good care of yourself (eat well, rest plenty, exercise) but I am confident that things will start to improve. A lot of your residual symptoms could stem from your anxiety that you have done some permanent damage - it is very common for anxiety to cause things such as a racing heart, diarrhoea, poor concentration, derealisation etc. Do you think it could be that?

Do you have anyone you could talk to about this?

If things aren't starting to clear up then I would recommend seeing a doctor, to rule out other causes or to look into managing any anxiety..

Good luck I think you are going to be okay, I really do, but if in doubt it might be wise to consult a doctor..

 

[RoundBottomFlask]

It sounds like you took these 6 doses within a short frame of time in which I can only recommend that you slow it down and cease experimenting for the time being. There shouldn't be any long term damages, but it sounds like the DXM took a huge toll on your psychological state. At your age, your brain is in a prime stage of development, try to remember that.

 

[Darksidesam]

You should be okay if you stop taking dxm now,
I think its fairly neurotoxic, but you can seem to recover from the damage.

Id id 800mg my first time (stupid i know) and i was cross-eyed for 6 days, night sweats at night too. but it all ended. I did get better in the end.

 

[JasperTheReckless]

I had a wretched experience two years back; I was consuming between 700 and 2100mg of dxm a day, being stupid as all fuck about it, on a fabled "search for the fourth plateau" for around two weeks. I decided I was getting out of control (really now....) and stopped downing syrup the day after a particularly crazy night, figuring i'd be stoned for possibly a day or two more; dead wrong. I was unable to speak clearly, see straight or understand my own thoughts for 60 days. I was horrified, I honestly thought I had become mentally handicapped from over doing it. I lost the ability to picture something in my mind (mental imaging), I heard music playing in my head, all the time. It was like I had an earphone in my head, rifling through my iTunes on shuffle, but garbling all the words to gibberish. I would look at something and try to read it, and suddenly be crippled by a fixation on one particular word or phrase, having it repeat over and over for up to an hour. To this day I have horrible Snow vision (colored static in the dark) and still have issues with motor function. I have bitterly found the only way to alleviate these symptoms is periodic doses of, you guessed it, DXM. Once you have lost the ability to control your brain, and think your own thoughts, you are changed, for better or for worse. I am a vastly different person than I was before those two weeks, though I have noted my depression has become both less frequent though more severe when present. I haven't decided if this is an improvement, but it is noticable.

DXM is not as harmless as people may come to believe, there is a very fine line that, once crossed, might as well be a hallway to hell itself.

 

[JasperTheReckless]

Unless you are a heavily experienced psychonaut (Though you mention you are 14, so i'd say not), I would vote to avoid it as much as possible. Sparingly it can be fun, but so can Krokodil and Tropicamide; look what those did to people. The danger comes from things not seen. If I could, I would have never discovered it.

Stay away from it, eat healthy, B-12 is much help iirc and the symtoms should fade over the next few months. Be warned, they can return with a single trip, and will take months to fade once again. Be safe, I grow sad of hearing of people getting hurt. I wish you luck.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I don't have enough time to reply appropriately to this OP, but for now, let me say this:

Get some PIRACETAM

Taking Piracetam or another racetam nootropic, as well as ceasing to use any NDMA receptor antagonists (such as DXM, ketamine, etc. etc.), will get you back to normal. So, until I am able to really post as I'd like, this is my advice:

1. Most importantly: Stop using DXM
2. Start taking a racetam - I prefer Piracetam given its low cost, legality and efficacy/safety
3. Do not use any other NDMA antagonist (such as ketamine)
4. Try not to use any mind altering/recreational drugs at all if possible
5. Eat and live in healthy ways (getting enough sleep is REALLY important)

Do that and you'll be GOLDEN. Shit, even if you just lay off the DXM and other drugs and get plenty of rest and eat a nutritious and healthy diet, you'll start feeling more like your sane old healthy self, sooner than later.

 

[DexterMeth]

^Do you use a choline bond with piracetam? I only got to sample a little piracetam the last time I was stocked on phenibut. It's certainly on my list to get back.

@Lars: you are young. Give yourself time to live before doing this crazy stuff. Your brain needs to still physically grow and develop. DO NOT ever mix DXM with other meds, especially SSRIs and drugs like MDMA. This is a lethal and extremely toxic combo. You should be fine, as you barely got into it, and the doses you mentioned are almost still in medical limits.

Go see a doctor about this. DXM use is very common, as it's legal.

 

[JasperTheReckless]

^Do you use a choline bond with piracetam? I only got to sample a little piracetam the last time I was stocked on phenibut. It's certainly on my list to get back.

@Lars: you are young. Give yourself time to live before doing this crazy stuff. Your brain needs to still physically grow and develop. DO NOT ever mix DXM with other meds, especially SSRIs and drugs like MDMA. This is a lethal and extremely toxic combo. You should be fine, as you barely got into it, and the doses you mentioned are almost still in medical limits.

Go see a doctor about this. DXM use is very common, as it's legal.

This.

I've made this mistake for you, call it that way. Learn from others, you have your whole life to do whatever, let your body finsh developing before you mess with its ability to function.

 

[DeathDomokun]

its fairly neurotoxic

Wrong.
I did 900mg my first time Sam, when I was 15, and I was quite underwhelmed. The next time I smoked weed with it and I haven't done DXM on it's own since.
Doesn't sound like depersonalization, just sounds like some cognitive loss. There's no magic cure, and it's not permanent. See how you feel in a month. Also, Tianeptine is an anti-depressant that acts upon both NMDA (what DXM and other dissociatives act on) and AMPA (what racetam nootropics act on). Taking something that acts on AMPA won't hurt, but it may be excessive given the low 6 doses you've done. The brain is resilient.

 

[Darksidesam]

I was kinda comparing it to ketamine, A high dose of ketamine i feel a bit wrecked, 24 hours later (It being a dopamine reuptake inhibitor) i feel like im able to perform 110%, my cognitive and concentration abilities are beyond normal.
Just saying i felt the effects of DXM lingered on and it felt like they would never go away.
When i did DXM i was cross eyed for 6 days and walking weird for days.


It took about 6 weeks but i did make a full recovery from it i'd say... haha what stupidity i used to have

 

[lars90]

Hey there, I'm really sorry to hear about your bad experience

Sometimes dissociatives such as DXM can trigger depersonalisation/derealisation - feeling detatched from yourself and your environment, and a sensation of unreality. It sounds like that happened to you, and that you have developed some anxiety too, perhaps relating to your symptoms. These are very unlikely to be permanent, although I appreciate how scary they are! You definitely should stay away from dissociatives, all drugs really, and take good care of yourself (eat well, rest plenty, exercise) but I am confident that things will start to improve. A lot of your residual symptoms could stem from your anxiety that you have done some permanent damage - it is very common for anxiety to cause things such as a racing heart, diarrhoea, poor concentration, derealisation etc. Do you think it could be that?

Do you have anyone you could talk to about this?

If things aren't starting to clear up then I would recommend seeing a doctor, to rule out other causes or to look into managing any anxiety..

Good luck I think you are going to be okay, I really do, but if in doubt it might be wise to consult a doctor..

Well today after drinking 3 leters the day before yesturday and feeling high again I know the stuff is stil lcought in my body and I should only then get worryed when it is fully gone. I went into the sauna which always really helps the next day (today) I felt way better I still feel the poor consentration and sometimes the bad memory but maby it was just becasue I tried to hard to think about to many thing at once. I belive Im getting better. I will try drinking 3 to 5 leters atleast at once everyday so I can cleer my system out and I will go in the sauna to get rit of all the other toxcins in my body realed though the sewat or the urin afterwards in my kidneys.
And thank you for your reply

 

[lars90]

It sounds like you took these 6 doses within a short frame of time in which I can only recommend that you slow it down and cease experimenting for the time being. There shouldn't be any long term damages, but it sounds like the DXM took a huge toll on your psychological state. At your age, your brain is in a prime stage of development, try to remember that.

Yeah your right normal pople start way later than me im the only one from my 2 brothers which has this tic. It sounds sick but it kind of terns me on doing drugs and stuff. Last winter it was Alcohol this one it was DXM what will it be next winter? I hope nothing all I can say I learned the lesson the drug was trying to teach me. For anyone else who reads this and is at time still using DXM stop before you go the same way I am.

 

[lars90]

You should be okay if you stop taking dxm now,
I think its fairly neurotoxic, but you can seem to recover from the damage.

Id id 800mg my first time (stupid i know) and i was cross-eyed for 6 days, night sweats at night too. but it all ended. I did get better in the end.

Wow yeah the third pletau is not a good one to start with have you noticed that everyone who start with a hge dose atleast third pletau like you gets a bad hangover? Its like your body has to get use to the drug first before it acsepts you getting it higher then its supose to be. I still dont get why it happend with my while taking such a low dose. It might have been the low hydration or the I-B profin I took because I had a head ache before but I am surley even thogh the feeeling is so super awesome never going back! it jsut to dangerous with any drug.

 

[lars90]

I had a wretched experience two years back; I was consuming between 700 and 2100mg of dxm a day, being stupid as all fuck about it, on a fabled "search for the fourth plateau" for around two weeks. I decided I was getting out of control (really now....) and stopped downing syrup the day after a particularly crazy night, figuring i'd be stoned for possibly a day or two more; dead wrong. I was unable to speak clearly, see straight or understand my own thoughts for 60 days. I was horrified, I honestly thought I had become mentally handicapped from over doing it. I lost the ability to picture something in my mind (mental imaging), I heard music playing in my head, all the time. It was like I had an earphone in my head, rifling through my iTunes on shuffle, but garbling all the words to gibberish. I would look at something and try to read it, and suddenly be crippled by a fixation on one particular word or phrase, having it repeat over and over for up to an hour. To this day I have horrible Snow vision (colored static in the dark) and still have issues with motor function. I have bitterly found the only way to alleviate these symptoms is periodic doses of, you guessed it, DXM. Once you have lost the ability to control your brain, and think your own thoughts, you are changed, for better or for worse. I am a vastly different person than I was before those two weeks, though I have noted my depression has become both less frequent though more severe when present. I haven't decided if this is an improvement, but it is noticable.

DXM is not as harmless as people may come to believe, there is a very fine line that, once crossed, might as well be a hallway to hell itself.

finally someone who understands me hell fuinking yeah I have the same symtoms everything the same just its getting better I dont have the visons anymore I can think clearly again I can picture things better. Although sometimes I forget stuff.
If I may ask when did you start taking these low doses again becasue as known DXM stays in your body for a holy fuck of a long time for a drug. Maby if you wait a year or 2 dont take any go to rehab or something or go to a docter a therapist who knows a lot about DXM you will come back to normal. Remember DXM is forgiving but it takes a long time for it to forgive esspecialy in high pletaus.

I belive in you what about you stop with me forever at this point dont take anything absolutly nothing.

See those are jsut side effeks becasue you can make them go away by taking DXM which showes that DXM is phisicly addicting not only mentally.
This drug is worse than heroin or Crystal becasue it takes so much longer to rever from it. But youll just have to wait I meen the missery will have to go away to some extent your jsut making it worse by taking more.

 

[lars90]

Unless you are a heavily experienced psychonaut (Though you mention you are 14, so i'd say not), I would vote to avoid it as much as possible. Sparingly it can be fun, but so can Krokodil and Tropicamide; look what those did to people. The danger comes from things not seen. If I could, I would have never discovered it.

Stay away from it, eat healthy, B-12 is much help iirc and the symtoms should fade over the next few months. Be warned, they can return with a single trip, and will take months to fade once again. Be safe, I grow sad of hearing of people getting hurt. I wish you luck.

Thank you for your reply I wont take it again I will stop for ever. I have seen a other person like me a girl who was 15 and she had long term dpreshions for a year but then went away now I am back to normal pretty much exsept the memory my motrics are a little slow but Im sure they will come back.

The drug is just not very forgiving or like I sayd it takes longer than any other. Its worse then heroin becasue heroin does not do thes terrible things it only makes you go though horrible symtoms while not on it anymore. I belie I took enoughf for DXM to give me a bodyly adiction. I belive it exsits.

 

[lars90]

I don't have enough time to reply appropriately to this OP, but for now, let me say this:

Get some PIRACETAM

Taking Piracetam or another racetam nootropic, as well as ceasing to use any NDMA receptor antagonists (such as DXM, ketamine, etc. etc.), will get you back to normal. So, until I am able to really post as I'd like, this is my advice:

1. Most importantly: Stop using DXM
2. Start taking a racetam - I prefer Piracetam given its low cost, legality and efficacy/safety
3. Do not use any other NDMA antagonist (such as ketamine)
4. Try not to use any mind altering/recreational drugs at all if possible
5. Eat and live in healthy ways (getting enough sleep is REALLY important)

Do that and you'll be GOLDEN. Shit, even if you just lay off the DXM and other drugs and get plenty of rest and eat a nutritious and healthy diet, you'll start feeling more like your sane old healthy self, sooner than later.

what is it and where can I get it as an 14 year old can it be abused?

 

[lars90]

^Do you use a choline bond with piracetam? I only got to sample a little piracetam the last time I was stocked on phenibut. It's certainly on my list to get back.

@Lars: you are young. Give yourself time to live before doing this crazy stuff. Your brain needs to still physically grow and develop. DO NOT ever mix DXM with other meds, especially SSRIs and drugs like MDMA. This is a lethal and extremely toxic combo. You should be fine, as you barely got into it, and the doses you mentioned are almost still in medical limits.

Go see a doctor about this. DXM use is very common, as it's legal.

No this is the thing it is not legal in higher doses. But the meds just can forbid it becasue it is used in to many drugs agains coughfing. If this werent used as coughf sysrup it would be illegal like any other drug. If I went to a docter he would probably tele the police and it would go in my police papers. Doing drugs with the age of 14 I can see it right now I really dont want that I am on a good school I get good grades and I have some nice friends here to I dont want everyone to know. By now 3 poeple know of my friends it doesnt really help though becasue they dont really care cause they dont know what its like...

 

[lars90]

Wrong.
I did 900mg my first time Sam, when I was 15, and I was quite underwhelmed. The next time I smoked weed with it and I haven't done DXM on it's own since.
Doesn't sound like depersonalization, just sounds like some cognitive loss. There's no magic cure, and it's not permanent. See how you feel in a month. Also, Tianeptine is an anti-depressant that acts upon both NMDA (what DXM and other dissociatives act on) and AMPA (what racetam nootropics act on). Taking something that acts on AMPA won't hurt, but it may be excessive given the low 6 doses you've done. The brain is resilient.

Now could you please explain this in english again I siriously did not understand one whole sentence