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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 6th Dose (now you've gone and used it all up)

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Transcendence said:
That's like what, 79 cents worth of MXE =P
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Haha, I know. Not upset about it, just one of those amusing facepalm moments. XD The sort of thing that, the instant you start doing it, you know you made the wrong choice. More funny is that there is now MXE in the woodgrain of my desk, forever...
 
The sad part is if you're anything like me you'll be eyeing that mxe in the woodgrain about a week after you run out :(
 
Survived Abortion said:
Awesome response psood. Don't worry, it's not something I'll be rushing to try out soon, although I won't rule out the possibility in the future. ;)

The reason I asked about how you felt after these experiences was because I'm quite fascinated by how various "qualities" of sexual dynamism and orgasmic peaks affect you afterwards. In french, the orgasm is called 'petit mort' (little death), and spectacular orgasms feel like a mini rebirth moment. Full-body orgasms leave you feeling cleansed and whole afterwards. I'm sure you've had different types of orgasms to know what I mean.

Perhaps that combo lets you easily slide in to a particular brainwave pattern, a very euphoric one, (and it may be that your mind learns it for future experiences and reinforces them)*, and so it may not be a case of catecholamine release or significant receptor downregulation in proportion to the intensity of the euphoria. The pharmacology of it wouldn't seem to lend itself to neurotransmitter depletion. If it goes along with what I mentioned above regarding transcendent orgasms, it may even be emotioanlly rejuvenating in some sense - although I'm willing to accept that that is fantastic jump in assumptions. :)

*Like with opiates, many users seem to have to learn to feel where the opiate euphoria lies, which could explain why others didn't get the same experience as you, although I would assume that the actual potential is there.
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Yeah, when you're seeking a high there's only so much the right drug, ROA, and timing can do. The rest is up to you.

It does seem like the sexual orgasm is used as a blueprint when the mind is constructing certain euphoric drug experiences for me. It is the model and the point of departure for far flung flights through the ecstatic realms -- aesthetic spaces, spaces of memory, the natural world branching out and fusing with the beatitudinal. During a drug induced extreme euphoric episode there are many of the same signs: an increase in pulse and breathing, a tendency felt to rhythmically gyrate the body, a flushed sensitivity to the skin... I know Jamshyd has reported spontaneously cumming during psychedelic episodes. It's true, also, that these experiences can build on one another, can feedback into and propel eachother. The bliss has to be examined and mapped for future navigation if you want to find your way further. I get a feeling that there's a grand dance of the intellect, the subconscious, and these drugs moving through the dark. Stepping out onto the floor is always in some part an act of faith.
 
Transcendence said:
Do people actually get euphoria from the m-hole, or find it fun?

I've had...interesting experiences m-holing (usually by accident): the whole death, dead, rebirth thing. I'd rate it as a positive experience overall, but very confusing and completely different from k-hole. Methoxetamine is one of the few drugs I enjoy much more on a lower dose. Ketamine is all about the k-hole, but M-hole is not something I would shoot for.

I've "traveled" to places during an M-hole, but as a lower organism with barely any perception of "self". Very little concept of human identity. No ability to comprehend or rationalize what is happening while it is happening. Similar to salvia in that regard.
Ketamine takes me across the universe, but much less messy and more euphoric. When I've K-holed, I still retain some sense that I'm human and that I've taken a drug and that's why this is happening. Methoxetamine is: wilt, die, gun-metal death void.



That's like what, 79 cents worth of MXE =P
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Watching my minds fantasies play out in front of me, falling down an endless hole, my bed shooting through space at 100's of kmph, my bed floating around the room, being in completely different environments without leaving the house (eg. a club) talking to people I don't or do know, talking to dead people. All of these things have been great fun.

I find it is similar to NOS, at first you don't understand but it slowly comes together and you learn through the experiences and grow threw them until you can be a rational (as rational as can be under the effects of a high dose dissociative) person observing the experience rather than being born etc. I used to have rebirth experiences all the time but as I used MXE more I kinda grew out of them. Give it time.

I'm not saying you should do more MXE or more often but if you do wanna keep using MXE, it will pass.
 
I swear a well known vendor in the UK has been selling cut MXE, but it is pure white in colour. One month ago I bought MXE off a different vendor (still well known) and the MXE was 'off white' in colour. When I weighed out 35mg on the scales I only needed a tiny bit. It had a much higher density than what I'd previously bought and it had the same effect, as my previous vendors MXE. I can't be sure though. :|
 
as said, layering is awesome

for me to get some very nice blissful beautiful effects going on... 10mg valium + 20mg MXE. then few hours later up both doses again. then up it again so im on 20mg valium and 60mg MXE, valium seems to combine so well with the MXE. if i wanna hole i just keep bumping up the MXE by 20mg. valium seems to make the whole ride alot smoother, removes some confusion, etc.

as for people saying they dont understand what the big deal is with this stuff... i didnt either, it took me awhile for it to "click", i did MXE for ages and it seemed nothing special, until one night, it was magical, and then i had the profound afterglow people were banging on about... and i understood it. it was like an ephipany, revelation or something. i dissolved and got carried away, it was almost orgasmic, i felt like i was orgasming the universe or something fucked up, re-born, it was like i had died and been re-born, that kinda intense stuff can enlighten people. DMT had a similar effect, the ego death from that changed me, opened my perspective up,

also there is shit MXE around that is lacking, cut, or not MXE at all. its gonna end up like mephedrone where it used to be fucking awesome... now most of it is dodgy and shit and seems to lack the magic
 
as said, layering is awesome

for me to get some very nice blissful beautiful effects going on... 10mg valium + 20mg MXE. then few hours later up both doses again. then up it again so im on 20mg valium and 60mg MXE, valium seems to combine so well with the MXE. if i wanna hole i just keep bumping up the MXE by 20mg. valium seems to make the whole ride alot smoother, removes some confusion, etc.

as for people saying they dont understand what the big deal is with this stuff... i didnt either, it took me awhile for it to "click", i did MXE for ages and it seemed nothing special, until one night, it was magical, and then i had the profound afterglow people were banging on about... and i understood it. it was like an ephipany, revelation or something. i dissolved and got carried away, it was almost orgasmic, i felt like i was orgasming the universe or something fucked up, re-born, it was like i had died and been re-born, that kinda intense stuff can enlighten people. DMT had a similar effect, the ego death from that changed me, opened my perspective up,

also there is shit MXE around that is lacking, cut, or not MXE at all. its gonna end up like mephedrone where it used to be fucking awesome... now most of it is dodgy and shit and seems to lack the magic
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Agree!! I just took 35mg after having a 10 day break from it. I ordered some from my previous vendor and it just seems weak, I'm pretty sure it's cut. :| Pure MXE is lovely though, and one of my favorite drugs. It is disrespectful to call MXE a drug though, it's therapy. :)
 
Does it tastes different? Mines tastes a bit salty and doesn't hurt when I snort it.

I assume that the burning ones are the ones that are cut.
 
definitely mate, its like a tool, or as you said, therapy. MXE has helped me stop doing mephedrone - which was fucking me up, and had been for ages. so i owe a lot to the creator of this stuff. very beneficial. good stuff
 
dont recall MXE tasting salty. recently got 500mg in the post, hope its still the amazing stuff with the faster duration, reminded me of K
 
How do you dose it? I think oral is good, or sub. I was snorting it all the time because it was easier, but I prefer to put it in my mouth. ;)
 
Issac Sinclair said:
How do you dose it? I think oral is good, or sub. I was snorting it all the time because it was easier, but I prefer to put it in my mouth. ;)
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IMO sublingual is the only way to go. It's a much deeper/fuller experience that is far more rewarding in the end. Not to mention it lasts about an hour longer than snorted, and you need about half as much.

As stated, layering is also the best way of taking it. I find that if I take 75-100mg sublingually to start it will throw me into the experience way too fast and I'll come out of it not being able to remember what happened. However, if I start with a 25-45mg dose and then keep upping it by about 25mg every half hour to hour until I get to 100mg, or if I'm feeling crazy 200mg, I'm slowly immersed deeper and deeper into the experience and it's far more elucidated and I'm also able to clearly remember the majority of it afterwards.

ColtDan, you were saying you really enjoyed valium during it. I highly recommend trying etizolam. I find that it really brings out the euphoria in methoxetamine; just as valium does but to a greater extent.

Also, all of the batches that I've had, which have all been of high purity, have tasted pretty salty to me. But my last batch is of a different consistency than the previous one; less fluffy, more like baking soda or something. But I haven't really been able to tell any difference beyond it's appearance.
 
I have two batches of MXE from different vendors; one is white, soft and fluffy, the other one is slightly grainy, coarse and offwhite.

The former is the good stuff and it tastes bitter to me. The latter is not as good and I can't remember the taste, it's too long ago.

In combination with weed I get tingly-skull syndrome. I like tingly-skull syndrome (:
 
MXE is VERY spiritual when you haven't taken it for ten days :)

Just wish I had some weed :D
 
Mung Hunter said:
ColtDan, you were saying you really enjoyed valium during it. I highly recommend trying etizolam. I find that it really brings out the euphoria in methoxetamine; just as valium does but to a greater extent.
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thanks, if im able to obtain some i'll definitely give it a try =D
 
Halif said:
After many sessions of varying lengths and quantities with MXE, I can say that it is the single most unpredictable substance I have ever tried. Nothing else has produced such a wide variety of effects (from the same batch); stimulation, confusion, feelings of connectedness, drunkenness, extroversion, feelings of isolation, introversion, clear-thinking, powerful physical pain relief... I've stopped trying to plan my experiences with it, because it seems to do whatever it wants me to. It's also interesting how different the effects are after repeated uses. With a lot of substances I find that the first few times are the best and then the effects become dulled - it loses some of its 'sparkle'. But with MXE I find the effects are quite different as time goes by and my experience with it grows. It's not as immediately euphoric as it was at first, but I get a greater sense of being 'tapped in' to neurological evolution which is ultimately more interesting. I'm not saying that I am actually tapping in to such a thing, just that it feels like it. It's bizarre. I like it.

One of the most uncharacteristic of my MXE experiences was a powerfully stimulating trip that was far greater in intensity than my (admittedly limited) experience with stimulants. Compulsive movement, jumping, dancing around, feeling weightless, visual distortions - an incredible combination. That only happened once. Again, from the same batch of MXE as every other experience I've had. I wasn't using anything else at the time. I wish, however, that I could recall what other every day things I had consumed (medication, food, energy drinks, etc) on that day, in case something created the conditions for such a speedy trip.

I also have found it to combine well with other substances (opiates, alcohol, small amounts of stimulants: it should go without saying that such combinations are not safe and great care must be taken when doing so - better yet, don't combine MXE with anything), but that MXE will overpower other things fairly easily.

MXE would have to be the best novel substance I've tried, considering the range of effects it can deliver and its versatility (social enhancer, mind exploration tool, pain killer, boredom smasher, etc). Key thing, as has been noted many times before, is not to use it too frequently.
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can fully relate to everything you said. it seems to replicate other drugs, or more to the point bring back memories of previous drug experiences so intensely that i feel like im on them, full on. its brought back all kinds of other stuff as well, like before christmas i combined MXE with valium and reached a perfect "sweet spot", felt like a child at christmas all over again. magical stuff, never thought id ever be able to feel like that again. its almost like it brings a fresh, new child like perspective of looking at experiencing everything. end up spending ages re-listening to songs, all kinds of stuff. higher does it gets too fucking weird... but thats where the amazing optimistic "manic" afterglow lies


as for people saying that "people are losing the plot and becoming deluded" with this stuff, its benefitted me, i had a problem with mephedrone, it was ruining me, depression, anxiety, fucked me up for ages. my first MXE afterglow ripped me out of the self destructive stupid cycle, lifted me up, and i didnt do mephedrone after that for 2+ months. coincidence... doubt it.
 
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