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[UK Specifically] What are the Laws for Self-Defense if Someone Breaks into your Home??

You can get a shotgun fairly easily in the UK, if you don't have a criminal past, mental illness, history of alcoholism or drug use (Admittedly this might be a stumbling block for many in this forum)

But you have to keep it in a safe. which might not be ideal for a self defence situation

I have all of those things lol. Wouldn't ever have or want a gun, anyway, though,
 
You can get a shotgun fairly easily in the UK, if you don't have a criminal past, mental illness, history of alcoholism or drug use (Admittedly this might be a stumbling block for many in this forum)

But you have to keep it in a safe. which might not be ideal for a self defence situation
Plus these days you need a referral letter from your quack.

I know for a fact that some quacks are totally anti gun and won't give it.

I'm curious what @LoginNotSecure experiences are on that?
Would you say that certain people who suffer depression are not a danger to society and can own a gun?

I kinda know the answer.
 
Both those things are illegal here. I once had pepper spray and the police confiscated it as it's apparently "a Class 3 Firearm" :/
I wasn’t joking. I know they’re illegal I live in the uk.
So they confiscated it off u before?
What’s the problem then? lol
Keep it in ur house and only spray burglars or attackers and u be golden
 
You're 99% wrong.

Uk police are quite competent.
Where I live now they are useless and corrupt as fuck as is the justice system.
I can assure u the uk police are not competent on any level. In fact there are hardly any police around and crime is through the roof.
Especially car theft and knife crime.
The police aren’t interested
 
I’d just get a dog if you’re that worried.

Get the right breed and no burglar in their right minds gonna try rob your house, plus there’s nothing like the love of a good dog.

Cane Corso’s, Rottweilers, Dobermans, Alsatians. All great loving dogs, and if you know how to train and socialise them, perfectly safe around other people, but they aren’t gonna allow any fucker to enter your house when you’re sleeping.

I fucking love dogs though, they are a big commitment.
 
I’d just get a dog if you’re that worried.

Get the right breed and no burglar in their right minds gonna try rob your house, plus there’s nothing like the love of a good dog.

Cane Corso’s, Rottweilers, Dobermans, Alsatians. All great loving dogs, and if you know how to train and socialise them, perfectly safe around other people, but they aren’t gonna allow any fucker to enter your house when you’re sleeping.

I fucking love dogs though, they are a big commitment.
A burglar with a knife will just stab the dog. This will probably make the situation more traumatic, if you like the dog.

Plus most people are not cut out to train the only dogs that might actually be useful, German / Belgian Shepards (A pitbull might maul the burglar but will probably maul you afterwards)

I wasn’t joking. I know they’re illegal I live in the uk.
So they confiscated it off u before?
What’s the problem then? lol
Keep it in ur house and only spray burglars or attackers and u be golden

Max sentence is ten years. That guy was lucky to just have it confiscated.
 
Mmm 🤔 purchase one of those panic alarms that sends a signal to the emergency service, maybe act asleep even if you are aware of the intruder...I don't know what the stats are, but aren't most home robberies non violent as they are after your valuable loot?
Emergency services are far too slow to respond to be of use here

A lot of burglars are off their heads on crack or valium. They will often beat people up or worse to find out where the good stuff is. Plus they might also be rapists, pretending to be asleep is not the best option.

Stab them.
 
Plus these days you need a referral letter from your quack.

I know for a fact that some quacks are totally anti gun and won't give it.

I'm curious what @LoginNotSecure experiences are on that?
Would you say that certain people who suffer depression are not a danger to society and can own a gun?

I kinda know the answer.
Down to the discretion of your local licensing officer.
 
A burglar with a knife will just stab the dog. This will probably make the situation more traumatic, if you like the dog.

Plus most people are not cut out to train the only dogs that might actually be useful, German / Belgian Shepards (A pitbull might maul the burglar but will probably maul you afterwards)



Max sentence is ten years. That guy was lucky to just have it confiscated.
My malinois doesn't need training, he'll munch you if you come towards me and just look angry. Let alone if you actually try something.
He's been stabbed already, which can and has happened to trained police dogs as well.
 
Well I'm glad your dog is OK, but I'm fairly sure a burglar could kill a dog with a knife if they wanted to.
 
Well I'm glad your dog is OK, but I'm fairly sure a burglar could kill a dog with a knife if they wanted to.

that's typical Malinois, gets stabbed 27 times yet would not release the criminal.
they will die for you.

A burglar could kill you with a knife as well :unsure:
 
Swiss army that's the one 😂

so according to the met you cannot carry one of those...

but apparently according to the gov site you can carry a sharp blade object no more than 3 inches long or something like that...
Size doesn't matter. It's all about how and where you stick it. So my gf told me...

Could off someone with an inch long scalpel blade if I wanted.
 
Plus these days you need a referral letter from your quack.

I know for a fact that some quacks are totally anti gun and won't give it.

I'm curious what @LoginNotSecure experiences are on that?
Would you say that certain people who suffer depression are not a danger to society and can own a gun?

I kinda know the answer.
I'm not anti gun. I like guns. But I'm anti everyone being able to access them. I don't trust people. So many cunts...

I'm ok with farmers having guns. It's effectively a tool. I'm no so into toffs having them so they can shoot wildlife for fun. Boils my blood actually. Killing for food is one thing. Killing for fun is unacceptable in my book.

I'm glad we live in a country where handguns are illegal.
 
I can assure u the uk police are not competent on any level. In fact there are hardly any police around and crime is through the roof.
Especially car theft and knife crime.
The police aren’t interested
True. They are shit and are only interested in bullshit charges and get their kicks on the weekends arresting dumb drunken people on a night out who had one too many whiskys.

As others have said, get a good dog if you're worried about home security. You don't need to get anything illegal, just look at the breeds and what they are bred for. I didn't really want a dog but what my missus wants she gets and so we ended up with a strange mix of breeds. But he will defend what he considers as his territory with aggression. I've learnt a lot about dogs and what they were bred for since having him and he's a beautiful, loving creature but a protector. It's in his instinct.

As for weapons, you just have to be careful. Anyone looking to rob you is not gonna grass on themselves so that's a useful tidbit to keep in mind but I quoted the law a few pages back. You will defend your home as you see fit with whatever is available to you. But only if you are able to. Pros will likely not target a house with people in it without conducting some research first and those kinds of rich cunts that get targeted have panic rooms and all that. If you're talking about the home. Invasion types then it's all fair game really when I it comes to the law, unless you use something specifically prohibited by law such as a gun.

And the person who said that getting a shotgun is easy is full of shit. They don't give them out unless you have a reasonable reason to have one, a safe place which they have to check out, a license of course and membership of some gun club circle jerk. I got offered my first shotgun when I was 14,just the two barrelled ones with space for two shells and actual hammers to fire the shot. People turn them into sawn offs but you're not allowed to have them, especially without the license and especially if you've used a hacksaw to cut it down and make it more dangerous to whoever you're pointing it at. But usually shotgun licenses which are the only legal guns available in the UK as far as I know are difficult to get licenses for unless you're a farmer or some rich snobby cunt who likes to shoot innocent animals like my man Bad Boy said and the likelihood of getting a license is increased if you're in the lodge... Handguns we're banned after the Dunblane massacre and if you read into it, you'll see why and it was his masonic Lodge connections which allowed him to get and keep his guns. This has all been D-noticed now (classified for the yanks).


How that cunt in Plymouth got one is beyond me, the incel who shot his mum, a father and his wee girl because he couldn't get laid or whatever. I really don't understand that - he wasn't even a farmer as far as I know.

If you want a gun your best bet is going onto the streets but don't do that unless you know people. Some foolish people stash them with junkies and others even Rob them from where they were stashed - I know of a poor crackhead girl who had her flag shot up due to this. But if you got a gun through these channels, it will probably be linked to at least a dozen of other shootings across the country.

You don't need a gun anyway. If anyone comes in, do everything you can do disable them unless they have the advantage in which case let them do with they are doing and avoid getting yourself hurt. Not worth it over a TV and a couple of laptops. If you have major jewels and whatnot then you will have safes and will live in a gated community and a panic button and all that good stuff.
 
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But if you got a gun through these channels, it will probably be linked to at least a dozen of other shootings.
15-20 minutes work and no ballistics expert can link that gun to anything at all.
 
Just keep a sockfull of shit beside the bed and hit the bastard with it.
 
I'm not anti gun. I like guns. But I'm anti everyone being able to access them. I don't trust people. So many cunts...

I'm ok with farmers having guns. It's effectively a tool. I'm no so into toffs having them so they can shoot wildlife for fun. Boils my blood actually. Killing for food is one thing. Killing for fun is unacceptable in my book.

I'm glad we live in a country where handguns are illegal.
All the pheasants/partridges which are shot end up in the food chain.
It's the only financial way to make big country estates finacially viable.


There are a lot of small shoots run by the average joe, plumber carpenter who do exactly the same thing.
Raise birds, release them and then shoot them.

I can understand your point, they're not wild birds they are pretty time but have been raised out in the open air and have lived in nature for a few months.

Unlike your kfc/cheap mass raised chicken, raised inside fed a high protein diet so they gain weight as fast as possible while not even being able to flap their wings out without hitting the chicken next to them.

THe same hunger for kfc chicken which is the cause of the yearly killing of 29million one day male chicks.

Hugh Fearnley Wittingstall made a good program once.
Let the kfc folks kill their own chicken lol.

 
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