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Will i see a decent government before i die?
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ageingpartyfiend
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qtf
the primary qualifications to gain power in a modern democracy appear to be megalomania, psychopathy, to be a fantastic liar and an arch-manipulator
the people attracted to the positions seem to be the least cut-out to wield power, and vice-versa
what to do? No idea unfortunately
Let's try to keep conversation compact and tidy together, please.
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Foreigner
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My answer is no.
The main reason for the changes we're seeing in the west is that our societies are undergoing a fundamental change in values. For example, in the U.S. it has classically been a battle between enlightenment age thinking (prioritizing logic and reason) vs. religion. That really is what defined the reasonings behind different party platforms and a lot of the national conversations for the better part of the last two centuries. Now in 2024, there are fewer devout religious people than ever, but there are also few people capable of deeper reasoning because the population is less educated due to how much it costs to go to school. The result is that the values which shaped the U.S. in its first 200 years no longer really apply, and we are left with a nation that has identity confusion.
I don't know enough about the UK to say for sure, but I suspect a similar problem is occurring. There's a civilization stagnation occurring where nobody really knows what is going on anymore and we are losing grasp on our values to even communicate the problems. So people revert to apathy or hedonism to cope. All the while, globalists are invading and picking apart the place for profit because there is no public solidarity movement of shared values to really fight back.
My prediction is that the coming decades are going to be really dark until people snap out of it, rediscover the basic things that make human life worth living, and start fighting back on those grounds. This is a cycle that has repeated many times throughout history. It often "refreshes" civilization and a renaissance occurs. Whether their fight will succeed or not is hard to say. The level of technological controls that are going to be implemented will create a whole new dimension to the problem that we've never seen before. If the controls are too great, it will be hard for the civilization to progress beyond its dilemma because the controllers won't allow it.
We really do need to deal with our psychopathic element. It has been holding us back for centuries.
steewith2ees
Bluelight Crew
I will have to take your word at face value as I was not born until almost 400 years later.
Fucking liars - I thought that the likes of Sir Isaac and co, oversaw the replacement of Latin as the language of science by mathematics and methodological reasoning during The AOE. I did not know about the scams and hoaxes but I know you are right. Nothing can be trusted as valid by anyone as the majority of people who don't experience such things 1st hand (or calculate). Thanks to the computer we can now tell the world that the science connecting them does not exist. Dumb people have always been treated differently to experts for no other reason beyond them not knowing things that they have chosen to take no interest in. In fact, their lack of knowledge about anything means that their opinion is more important than most peoples as it cannot be incorrect. It can be moronic, hateful, drawn from fundamental misunderstandings but however different or well informed another opinion may be, the dumb persons overall opinion cannot be wrong by definition, despite it may having elements within it that are.
It's impossible to debate an idiot without loosing.
Don't ask questions like tgat! Lol for real!!
steewith2ees
Bluelight Crew
When one reaches their limit, for instance in one case of mine, after trying for multiple weeks to diffuse 2 middle aged mens differences, specifically being unable to avoid the others last post without the final word, both of the parties, perfect to form, put me right in my shinebox in separate but identical criticisms. Sure, they considered each other as liars but, when it was suggested they take the high road and avoid interacting they rightfully both accused me of wanting an equal outcome for both instead of taking a side like competent moderators.
As the customer is always right they had proof in hand of my ineffectiveness, as I should have been decisive and issued a temp ban to the other party, whom I had allowed to behave in a hateful manner. So with nothing to work with beyond the definition of moderator, I issued what depite being an official warning, was still the least restrictive recorded disciplinary action available to forum mods at the time. One of the guys finally decided that the warning was for the best and keen to avoid a needless temp. holiday from BL and spent 4 days ignoring the gaslighting by the more self important party. despite making at least some effort, the row exploded but with nothing to discuss, they could only insist that the other was bullshitting about anything without matter.
So after literally being told by the least satisfied party that my hard work trying to resolve the problems was far from virtuous, the most pathetic example of how my performance was nothing to do with how hard I worked on things and was only reflected by my resolution, on the condition of course that it was in his favour, after which he would be prepared to contact my supervising Smod to recommend whether or not the harm I had caused to the forums morale warranted nothing more than my immediate removal from the Volunteer Staff, or if a permanent ban was the only way to restore the forums confidence.
So, following the next tranche of vile and violent posts I just did the best thing for EADD and scrubbed the posts so far back they would not even be able to remember where it starts. the more difficult member had histrionics claiming that without his collection of violent threats and vile insults I was censoring him so he could not show people how he was in the right all along. I don't think its best practise, but with a committed audience within 'the plugging hole as I was blogging the whole thing I was able to make people aware of what, despite being a drastic reaction, was the only solution to two members who, had no desire to find a solution as I could be blamed after the more problematic member could emasculate my efforts in manging my emotions, on one occasion calling me every vile thing from being a piece of shit junky who needed to remember how much I fucked up my life if I ever felt selfish enough to experience a positive mood, that his addiction to Class A poppies was justified due to his chronic pain and how I should forget ever trying to gain meaningful employment again after the mockery I made of my volunteer role at BL, including how I must have been a useless nurse all along even prior to my troubles. Finishing off with his favourite theme, he decided that I had been lying about my past for the 2 years I had been in the role and, being a single middle aged man I was probably molesting children, which was a really weird thing to conclude.
Sorrry, more rant rant rant (fookin wiz) but as long as you can save what you need for subsequent recovery to the forum I can empathise with the occasional BS purge.
Fin
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World is going fucking lunatic. At this point, I might prefer that to regular lunatic. It would not lead to anything. Batshit crazy is unstable and will eventually resolve, for good or bad, I don't know. It will form segments of people that do not recognize the government, and that I like.
They are intending to criminalize riding bike (and scooters) drunk over here in Finland. FFS applying same rules to cyclists than drivers of fucking dumb and clumsy murder cubes is insanity, and will probably lead to drunk driving because it doesn't even matter anymore. I don't know if even skateboards will be included to the legislation, it is still work in progress.
Fucking cunts. I can't even begin to count the reasons this is stupid. I want to move to the countryside.
Now I will check the Trump is Shot. Maybe pour another coffee, these antihistamines are holding me down and I feel like my head is cotton wool.
They are intending to criminalize riding bike (and scooters) drunk over here in Finland. FFS applying same rules to cyclists than drivers of fucking dumb and clumsy murder cubes is insanity, and will probably lead to drunk driving because it doesn't even matter anymore. I don't know if even skateboards will be included to the legislation, it is still work in progress.
Fucking cunts. I can't even begin to count the reasons this is stupid. I want to move to the countryside.
Now I will check the Trump is Shot. Maybe pour another coffee, these antihistamines are holding me down and I feel like my head is cotton wool.
Mr. Kite
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Trump was shot because of the Fine People Hoax. Then Biden repeats it yet again after Trump is shot. How did almost every major outlet get away with saying Trump praised Nazis when he actually condemned them? I guess every outlet besides Fox is controlled by the CIA. Just great.
F.U.B.A.R.
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Who's that fuckwit that joked about the UK being the first Islamic state with nuclear capability under Labour?
What a cunt.
It's a bit like me saying that the USA would be the first fascist state with nuclear capability under the Republicans.
Oh, hang on...
What a cunt.
It's a bit like me saying that the USA would be the first fascist state with nuclear capability under the Republicans.
Oh, hang on...
steewith2ees
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It is a ridiculous thing to suggest. The people who claim this either heard it second hand or are exaggerating what they saw during that particular COVID presser. Trump never told anyone to do anything regarding the virus - all he did was ask those doctors if injecting bleach would be of any benefit.
Zopiclone bandit
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I'm sitting back & doing a Mr Burns smile as I watch Labour fall apart, the opening of Parliament gave us a clue what a Socialist Nightmare we are walking into, well I didn't Vote for Labour let me make that much clear.
The issue is their plan will fail but not before they cause horrific damage.
The issue is their plan will fail but not before they cause horrific damage.
