Will i see a decent government before i die?

[Zopiclone bandit]

I remember at my former workplace, the factory had an 'Independence Day' party.

WTF did that entail? Songs from World War 2, Carry on films being shown & some Morris Dancing?

Never underestimate stupidity.

No shit!

 

[Zopiclone bandit]

 

[Shambles]

Sure, the Spanish Gov can kick them out if they want. A lot of the Spanish want them gone already but they bring a lot of money in

This is not entirely true. English immigrants to Spain mostly live in English “colonies” that barely - if at all - interact with locals in any way.

The “colony” businesses are mostly owned by English immigrants not local Spaniards.

As such, “Brits Abroad” literally do the exact thing they accuse other immigrants of doing only for real.

The NHS is a dreadful healthcare system. And don't start crowing about America, there are plenty of other countries with socialised healthcare that actually works, for roughly the same amount of money.

I very much doubt Reform would get rid of the NHS anyway, for whatever reason people in Britain literally worship it, so it would be political suicide

Farage has frequently said he would switch the NHS to a European-style partially insurance-based system. This simply adds a middleman to extract profit.

The real solution is to properly invest in the current system rather than the managed decline we’ve had from successive Tory and Labour governments.

 

[Shambles]

This Reform (calypso) anthem is pure fukkin GOLD!!!

 

[Ismene2]

Saw a bloke with a 2 million quid house raging that he will have to pay an extra 4 grand council tax if labour introduce a mansion tax.

2 million quid house and still these dickheads moan over 4 grand. Incredible.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Saw a bloke with a 2 million quid house raging that he will have to pay an extra 4 grand council tax if labour introduce a mansion tax.

2 million quid house and still these dickheads moan over 4 grand. Incredible.

But you can't upset the rich mate; because, er.... just because

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

This is not entirely true. English immigrants to Spain mostly live in English “colonies” that barely - if at all - interact with locals in any way.

The “colony” businesses are mostly owned by English immigrants not local Spaniards.

As such, “Brits Abroad” literally do the exact thing they accuse other immigrants of doing only

I love the fact that those 'Brits abroad' types got hoist by their own petard by voting Brexit, then realised they couldn't come and go as they please anymore. Fuckin idiots...

changed slur to neutral pejorative
-pissed_and_messed

 

[Ismene2]

Saw today that brexit is costing us 90 billion a year. And migration got massively worse not better. Ironically decreasing migration was the only reason most voted for it.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

Left union is suggesting age restrictions to internet and leaving NATO.

It seems like there aint single one decent big party. Particularly messing with anonymity is absolute no-no for me.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Saw today that brexit is costing us 90 billion a year. And migration got massively worse not better. Ironically decreasing migration was the only reason most voted for

The only people that couldn't see this coming were the pricks that voted for it.

I still can't believe we shot ourselves in the foot over this...

(Edit: Am I actually allowed to say 'pricks' on here these days, or has it been added to the ever growing list of banned hurty words?)

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

(Edit: Am I actually allowed to say 'pricks' on here these days, or has it been added to the ever growing list of banned hurty words?)

prick ain't referring to any vulnerable and beaten group of people that did not do in cohesion stupid shit, instead it refers to pricks.

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

prick ain't referring to any vulnerable and beaten group of people that did not do in cohesion stupid shit, instead it refers to pricks.

Pardon?

 

[Shambles]

Pardon?

I’d say just stick to basic swears and generic insults (ie no personal attacks or abuse).

Steer clear from anything that refers to a minority even if you definitely don’t mean it that way.

There actually aren’t that many specific words that are verboten, but we all know the ones that are. Other than that it’s just a case of not personally attacking people.

Yes, yes that does mean we don’t have total freedom of speech, but then we never did. The rules are definitely a little stricter now but that’s just the way it is. Gotta suck it up for better or for worse

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

LGBTQ people and legit intellectually disabled/handicapped people in medical reference frame (previously retards before it was turned to slur and new set of terms were coined) for example are in most cultures vulnerable and beaten group of people that do not do stupid shit in cohesion so they do not deserve their reference group being associated to negative things. Fascists are not enough vulnerable and beaten group that does stupid shit in cohesion by definition so they deserve their reference group being associated to negative things.

Prick and cunt are just, uhm, "organs" that are universally utilized as pejoratives in pretty much all cultures in somewhat equal manner, so no harm done if you don't directly attack individuals on forum.

It is also recommended to avoid attacking public figures in vulgar manner, at least in some sub forums, but I do not recall there being need for moderating that kind of content in EADD. Some of my content about Elon Musk was moderated in CEPS half a year ago or so. (I raise this thing into conversation because I do not want me to be blamed for being misleading because I said "individuals on forum", if some day there is suddenly need to moderate speech against some public figure for whatever reason I can not foresee.)

I am glad you asked, I am willing to explain the logic here if needs to be.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

Yes, yes that does mean we don’t have total freedom of speech, but then we never did.

It is also important to note that referring to set of people that are innocent by default with some slur is discouraging their presence and their speech and could be interpreted harming free speech. Karl Poppers Tolerance of paradox (comic explaining this has been hijacked by far right by the way, if someone goes out looking for it they will be exposed to propaganda, I am just warning people here).

 

[Shambles]

Funny, I actually only heard about the Paradox of Tolerance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance) quite recently. Interesting concept.

Personally, I am of the opinion that tolerance can only be successfully sustained when intolerance is made intolerable.

 

[Pissed_and_messed]

It is also recommended to avoid attacking public figures in vulgar manner, at least in some sub forums, but I do not recall there being need for moderating that kind of content in EADD. Some of my content about Elon Musk was moderated in CEPS half a year ago or so. (I raise this thing into conversation because I do not want me to be blamed for being misleading because I said "individuals on forum", if some day there is suddenly need to moderate speech against some public figure for whatever reason I can not foresee.)

I got back to this case for the sake of clarity and found the staff discussion about it. It was I guess precedent in some ways, and consensus was pretty much that one needs to go pretty hard with language (as I did, just out of spite) against public figure for the content to be considered against the rules, so, simply stating some politician is not good person ain't crossing any line.

I am sorry I had to confuse you with this stuff, not even telling where exactly the line lies, but as I went ahead, I guess I just needed to do my best to reach for some conclusion.

 

[Ismene2]

I’d say just stick to basic swears and generic insults (ie no personal attacks or abuse).

if someone insults you I suggest the comeback:

"Are you talking to me or do you still think you are talking to your mother?"

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

I am glad you asked, I am willing to explain the logic here if needs to be.

I can see the logic thanks mate.

But using your logic, surely the word "idiot" is just as bad as "retard", as they are both derogatory terms for people of limited intellectual capability.

So why is idiot acceptable when retard is not?

This is the problem with censoring words without taking into account the context.

Where does it end?

(this isn't a criticism of you or any of the mods, it's a criticism of modern societal bollocks).

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

Anyway....

Back OT (finally )

What about the budget eh? Nothing personally affects me, except for the increase of duty on fags and booze. Again...