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why do we do drugs?

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Hm.
To write.
Nothing as pure as emotions flooding onto paper,
faster than I once thought possible.
It's beautiful.
 
I would just like to say, that I think people who say they do drugs because it helps their "psyche" have really fucking big imaginations anyway, so why they would even need to do drugs in the first place is beyond me... (I guess my "psyche" just isn't powerful enough to be able to grasp or understand things of such imaginary complexity :( )
For two, I think people who say they use drugs to cover "pain" and "escape reality" are a little fantastically selfish. I, for one, did not have a fucking brady bunch childhood, things happen, shit happens, and I learned, by watching my own parents, that partaking in substances to "escape" is probably the biggest lie anyone can tell themselves. I also learned, without watching Oprah, without seeing a psychiatrist, and without drinking heavily, that reality is a beautiful woman and an ugly motherfucker all wrapped up into one big splitting hell of a headache/ good-time, and the only aspirin for it is dealing, accepting, and enjoying yourself.
So what are drugs? Why use them? Life, as I have explained before, is awesome and shitty, it's like a cake, and everyone who clings to the moldy side, wants you to hang over there, and everyone who hangs on the "healthy" cake side, wants you to hang over there. And the drugs are the "frosting". Cake doesn't have to have frosting...it's already sweet anyway...so why do we put it on there in the first place? Because, it's decorative, it's yummy, and we all know that it decays teeth...but who cares? If you brush your teeth, that won't happen, if you take precautions and are a responsible and reasonable person, then the frosting (drugs) is alright to put on the cake. (life)
I say, if any particular drug were a type of frosting, what particular kind would it be? (there's an idea for a thread!)
(and to all those folks who do drugs to escape life, just remember, no matter how much frosting you pile on the moldy side of the cake, it's still shitty under there....so cut it away and then do you're frosting, er drugs.) Just as a side note, I always see people on t.v. who just get out of rehab and say that "drugs caused all of their problems". I say that's bullshit. Yeah, certain drugs are more addictive than others, but it wasn't the drugs that caused the problem...there had to be a general problem before the drug use to facilitate the drug addiction. And most of the time when I see this, the problem usually turns out to be that persons own selfishness that caused all their problems....so to all you fuckers representing the "drug war" and spilging all you're propoganda for the kiddies to see, eat shit...you're still selfish...and you're making all the frosting taste like shit!
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Mmmm...frosting.
Yeah, I do drugs because I can. Whatever makes us happy, right?
If you're happy to escape. Escape.
If you're happy to eat that frosting and brush or not brush you're teeth afterwards. Eat the Frosting.
And if someone is making you're frosting taste like shit, we must do something about it.
All this talk of frosting is making me hungry...
[ 11 July 2002: Message edited by: RevHead ]
 
i used drugs because i liked to experiment with new things.
i continued to use drugs because they were fun, and by my use i was able to really understand and really appreciate electronic and other styles of music, which was something i lost in my mid-teen years.
i stopped using drugs because i needed to have a clear head and be able to think when i needed to.
and one last thing, to all of those people who say i do drugs because life would be boring without them or there is nothing else, i would seriously take a look at your lives, because when the only thing that is giving you pleasure is drug use, you could quite easily spiral downwards into a loop of use and abuse and addiction.
there are many many more things in life than drugs, and your life can be much much more if you go out and do something with it...
have fun, play safe :)
 
I figure that my brain is like a tree. Sometimes you have to cut away a bit of the tree in order for it to grow more. Just like drugs.
 
Because I like them. I mean if they don't kill me it makes me stronger kinda. Plus I like to experience stuff. So if I was to die tomorrow I won't have to regret not trying something.
 
I originally started using drugs simply because I was interested. I knew that a lot of the musicians I listened to used drugs. There music was a lot more meaningful and deeper and more talented than stuff on the radio. Since I was so deeply into music, I wanted to know what the people I looked up to were experiencing and how they heard things.
Later I got into psychedelics. I loved the way it inspired my art and music. I loved listening to music on psychedelics. I had novel inspirations and I thought that I could only achieve these great thoughts on the drugs. I believed that I was using parts of my brain that I would normally use and that somehow it made me a better person.
Eventually drugs just started consuming my life. I didn't want to have a job and live like everyone else. I had never fit in and I found that drug culture was much more accepting of me (really though, most of these people could have cared less about me, I was just someone to get high with).
I began using everything I could get my hands on just to see what everything did. I thought that I could find some drug or combination of drugs that would lead me to some religious-like revelation or something.
After a few years, I had completely destroyed myself. My life was shit. The people I was hanging around had absolutely no morals or concern for human life. So I quit and tried to put my life back together.
A few years later I was depressed and was looking for a quick cure that I could manage. So I started taking painkillers, mostly Percocet. Somewhere along the way I just stopped managing my addiction as my depression got worse and I decided that I could deal with the consequences later, so I began using heroin again.
Now I'm a junky giving a half-ass effort to get my life straight again. I know I'm not ready to give up drugs and I don't see abstinence working for me. So I got over my physical addiction and use sparingly and try to keep it managed.
So I guess in the end, I use drugs to self-medicate.
 
an example of such a person would be the great chemist and philosopher alexander shulgin.
Why the hell is Shulgin so great? Wonderful chemist, yes. Great philosopher? Give me a break.
The guy has dedicated almost his entire life to finding some chemical that will somehow lead mankind to some revelation that will result in some psychorevolution. There is absolutely nothing a drug can make you think that wouldn't be possible to do with a sober mind.
If chemistry is fun for him, fine. But come on, the guy is as old as dirt and now he's resorted to isolating compounds from cactii to find some new wonder drug that doesn't exist.
And it's just really sad watching Anne promote MDMA without having the slightest idea of how the average person simply abuses it.
He's an intelligent guy, but he utterly lacks common sense. And while I believe that some of his chemical creations might have *some* benefits, the whole thing is entirely overrated.
I'm sorry, but his writing hasn't done much of anything in terms of helping to understand the human mind. His experience summaries often make mention of sexuality which has nothing to do with the drugs, but his own personal psyche.
And so far his drugs have done nothing but given thousands of young adults the opportunity to get high in the name of science which is a joke. I have yet to read a trip report where someone has made any relevant statement about how the human mind functions or any serious revolutionary new understanding of human consciousness.
It's not unlike believing God. People want so much to believe that there is something bigger and better out there that they will tell themselves anything to make their lives seem important and meaningful.
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We all have different reasons for choosing to do drugs. Some say to get away from problems and others, just to get fucked up. I like it because of all the feelings you get. I am 24 and have expreinced with every drug you can think of. That's not something that I am proud of, but I made that choice. I also have noticed that the older you get the more you grow out of certain drugs. For example, I would NEVER do any type of LSD again. It justs fucks w/ my head too much. I used to do it all the time between the ages of 18-20. Now I LOVE coke and pills. I choose to do these b/c the pills help the hangover and they make me get up in the morning and get going to do whatever i need to do. Coke, well b/c when drinking, it helps maintain the drunkeness. Plus I just love the shit. That is my reason for doing drugs.
 
Pot: Simply to relax and think more
Mushrooms: So I can explore, ponder on my life, amplify my emotions so I can further analyze them
Alcohol: It runs in the family ;)
Other drugs I dont do anymore, IMHO i didnt like how E made me depressed/angry/anxious. Hopefully no more ;)
Cocaine: Had fun with it, SO done with it
 
gotta agree with justachik... gotta love the fucken chems... here's my reasons
mdma: tell me there's a better feeling than this in the whole fucken world. come on, what other substance gives you that same magic. oh, and yes, every time is as good as my first.
amphetamines: you have fucken cranking music and you wanna get up and dance like a crazy motherfucker. 50,000 red bulls, or a couple of lines of ice?
thanks for your time kids :)
 
Why do I do drugs? Just to prove the "No one says I want to be a junkie when I grow up" commercial wrong.
Honestly though, I've thought a lot about this, both sober and on the chemicals in question. And here's what I think I've come up with for me (your mileage my vary).
Being a scientist (a true scientist, mathematician), I am limited by the obserations of my surroundings. Most people accept these things as fact. My pen falls because of gravity, my plane stays aloft because of drag, the electrons circle the atom, etc. As scientists, we devise clever(?) schemes to trick the universe into revealing how we think it should work. This is the scientific method (hypothesis, test, blahblahblah). But, many of the things that we take for granted in this world are based solely on our (scientists and normal people) observations of phenomena. I can tell that gravity is 9.81 blahblabblah because I drop a ball in a vacuum tube, I know that H2O melts at 100C because I have a thermometer and a stove, etc.
But, I can tell you in my 4 years or so of drug use, that I have seen many things that cannot be classified by normal science. Things that either existed beyond the realm of observable phenomena, or existed in a way that was indescribable with current ideas and philosophy. Sure, we've all taken LSD-25 and thought that Mozart looks "red" or that the pull to the right on Salvia is only in our heads.
And here is my point, I think. All of this world is based upon observable phenomena. You can even prove this to yourself; go to your local University and go to the Physical Science/Bio department. Look at the pretty machines. Go to the Philosophy department. Try to figure out why they are in the dilapidated building with old 286s running Windows 3.11. (This is also an observable phenomena but let's ignore that for the sake of argument, and to keep the from turning into some metaphysical conversation). And why do they have "shiny toys?" Because people believe in science. They also believe in religion (well, some of them) and that's why the Mormom Tabernacle Church is also huge and shiny.
So, we've established that people want to believe what they can experience (or prove for that same matter). So, where does that leave us?
That leaves the blame of explaining this fucked up ball of grass zooming through the Universe, and the above said Universe, on me and kindred spirits. Now, how do I explain it? I observe things. And I'm supposed to take these things as truths, or things that are unprovable, whereas I change my idea, and then something is eventually proven to be.
But how can I trust myself to believe that everything follows the pull of gravity if I have seen things float? How can I believe the color of something is black if I've seen it turn into a "white noise" of white and grey? How can I believe any of this if I don't know how to operate the machinery I'm trying to observe with (i.e. my mind)?
All of the sudden, I sound like a "psychonaut," which may or may not be true. I do drugs because it allows me to evaluate how and why I am involved with the Universe in the way that I am, physically, mentally, spiritually, metaphysically, etc.
A lot of people would argue that I'm not seeing the real world because I'm looking at it through "rose colored glasses," which may or may not be true. When you look at a flower, your brain says "it's yellow, my eyes and visual cortex and all of that said so." When a bee sees a flower, his brain says "hey, that's white because my eyes (which are UV sensitive) and brain said so." Who's right?
Maybe that really is just escapism in a really nice looking package, and I won't lie and say that I don't get hedonistic pleasure from drugs, because I do. But I will say that I also gain the insight of what this world may be, and how it can also be interpretted in a different way. And how I can learn to stop interpretting it from my narrow-minded view, and see it from other perspectives that may or may not be correct.
 
I am 18 years old and live in Western Australia
why i do drugs?
i always said i would never touch drugs with a ten foot pole (illegal drugs) and then one night at a niteclub in perth i did it, i have no reason why all of a sudden all that i stood for went out the window, i just did it.
and i loved it so i did it again and agian, i don't plan on stopping it anytime soon, but in the future i will end up getting over drugs.
they are fun and a good time so why not do it.
drugs aren't for everyone but anyone who preaches on how bad they are for you without trying them first is a hypocrite.
I like drugs so there for i do drugs.
 
i do them to find another perspective on things, to be able to dream while still awake, to learn to accept and relate to different kinds of people...drugs are a gateway to another world. i used to be a very judgemental person and would think less of people who didn't live up to my standards. after i started doing drugs, i've become an open, more accepting person who takes ppl for who they are not what they do. they've made me a more relaxed, accepting person. so drugs can be wonderful as long as you control them and don't let them control you. let them take you to a good place, but don't depend on them to keep you there.
 
I think a lot of people do them to break the ice that forms around our actions from day to day life in the 'grind.' So that we can just be ourselves freely and without holding back.
I think a lot of people don't realize that when they take drugs...they are putting their mind back into a similar state that it was when they were a child...full of imagination/wonder...and the willingness to do just about anything....altering of perception (do you remember how you percieved as a child?)
If we could only learn to hold onto our youthful hearts and minds as age and society wear on us....drugs wouldn't be such a necessity to get to 'that place'...IMO anyways
I personally only smoke weed...all of the other stuff is on about an annual basis.
But I have never been 'hardcore' with drug use...
 
Like someone said earlier, the people in the scene. I don't do anything much at home, I love rave scene because of the open and friendly attitude. The drugs augment the experience.
 
There is a theory that many who use drugs have an underdevloped pleasure/reward (read dopamine receptors or the chemical itsself) system, so they naturally look for ways to compensate.. Drugs, sex, overeating are good examples.. So thats a thought..
Me mostly boredom and recreation.. I find when i am busy doing fun things i dont even think about drugs.. but when im bored they are the only thing going thru my mind.
 
Why,cause im old,fat,ugly,intruverted,vain,self concious,got no friends (well a couple),i have no place in life,and im bored.EXCEPT when i pop pills all of the above (and more) vanishes.And then my world then rocks.
 
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