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Why are women attracted to men who are assholes?

I won't get into my bitter opinion that there really is no such thing as a nice guy right now (my nice guy is bing an asshole) but my theory on the whole thing is that we know what the assholes are thinking. if a guy thinks about only sex, food, and car (or drugs) then we never have to ask what they are thinking.
 
I have had my share of assholes..... so yea, nice guys come first with me! I thankfully have one now.... yay!
 
*Tries his damned hardest to say something which hasn't been covered in this thread*

I like... turnips...
 
Nice avatar Raas :)

Nice to one person may seem arrogant to another ... so we'd all have our own opinions on whether or not nice guys finish last ...

I've only ever met wankers so I can't comment yet :) hahah
 
98% of men are wankers... the other 2% are either lying or have broken both wrists....

Spark

(This Thread shall live forever. And maybe with the whole wanker thing it should just be made sticky)....
 
nice guys don't always finish last.
by most people im considered a very nice guy, yet i have very little problems finding girls or getting laid. girls i like, that's a different story.

my best friend is quite possibly one of the nicest guys yet. but he has no problem whatsoever getting laid. why? he's confident, funny, and good looking. and nice. he and i are two examples that you don't have to be an ass to get girls, just confident.
 
Tr6ai0ls4 said:
that is by far nothing but an opinion...



Being aggressive and being an asshole has nothign to do with each other. It just happens to be that most assholes are aggressive, other then that there really is no connection.

Also, its not the aggresivenes that seperates an asshole from a nice guy, its the fact that a nice guy is a guy who is not rude, does not abuse, demean, insult, harrass, hit, or do anything of the sort to females against their will. It has nothing to do with aggression, or being too insecure to tell a woman what they want. They just treat women with respect, that is all that seperates them from the assholes. Its not the aggresion that girls are after, i've seen plenty of straight out, open, and completely honest nice guys get dumped for somebody who is a disrespectfull loud-mouth idiot who takes woman for granted. It happens all the time. That is the issue being discussed here I believe, not the agression... no?

peace

Spot on, except I would replace "agressive" with "assertive".
 
Glad to see this topic still live and kicking. I just wish the starter of it would realize what he had started...
 
I haven't read all the posts coz they are too many but from my experience the bad guy (the guy who doesn't show interest and has less respect for women then the good guy) always gets a lot more results than the good guy (the guy that treats her "right") If you wanna get results, be the asshole she can't get.

It's all playin the game!
 
http://www.askmen.com

askmen.com is an effing awesome site lol. seriously. i know alot of friends who could use the advice from that site.

be confident.

very rarely will a girl go up to a guy and ask him out on a date or to do something. so if you're some "nice" guy sitting around moping cuz a girl won't approach you. it's because she's a GIRL!! and they don't do that.

eye contact. and don't be a wuss. and don't call her the next day. and stand her up a few times. you gotta employ some assholey tactics and she'll be all over you and curious.

nice guys don't always finish last. just don't be a panzy. if you don't like something say so, if someone needs to be called an asshole tell them. always pay for the girl and be protective. if you're not secure in yourself, then why should a girl be.
 
if i may add my two cents...today my sister married her boyfriend of just about a year now. he is a super nice guy to the bone.. not one bit of asshole in him. the thing is that they first met three years ago, and ever since then he has had feelings for her. it's just that this past year that she got tired of dating assholes, and he got his chance. i'm so happy for the both of them because they both deserve each other. the point is just because the nice guy can't have everything he wants right away like an asshole can doesnt mean he wont get it eventually with a little patience...hang in there guys your woman is out there...who knows it could be your bestfriend of 5 or 10 years...you never know you just gotta give them time.
 
What is this silly distinction, so either you are an assertive asshole or a sissy nice-guy? WTF??

Im an assertive person, although rarely do I know what i want in life, when I do want something I get it, in whatever way possible. Im loud, crazy at times and will do things few would think of doing. This Sunday I went to the main posh church of Joberg, the service is televised, and I pitched up there barefoot, with a friend who hadn't slept in four days and was delusional(he was the only one who would go with me), and went up up the stage to tune the pastor that his religion wasn't good value for money and wasn't competitive on the market, needless to say I got hauled out by the ushers while my friend stood there giggling at people and telling them to stop pulling faces at him. So Im not shy...Usually at a party I'll throw myself in the middle off the crowd, and entertain everybody with my odd view on the world & perspective in general...Im an ex-kickboxer & skinhead, no I''m not a shy, string for a backbone nerd...but I consider myself a nice guy.

I am a nice guy, i don't put up false fronts of myself, If I like a girl i'll tell her, no playing hard to get or other bullshit, I'm not mean to women, I respect them and treat them like an equal, I'm courteous and considerate and would die before intentionally hurting a girls feelings. But I'm still considered a nice guy by girls, and usually the 'asshole' type is preferred over me. So, should I be MORE assertive? I've tried that route and only come across as a needy person, and that is always a turn-off. Or keep being the nice, friendly, extrovert that I am? I have little sucess with either way. Maybe it's because I like to become friends with a girl first, then make the move. Maybe it's because I say fuck the game, i like you, no playing around, girls want to be considered equals? Then they must stop messing around and go out on the hunt like guys, stop playing hard to get & make the first move every now and then. We live in a modern society but still go by old-fashioned dating rules. The does NOT have to make the first move, No the chick isn't doing you a favor or yielding to your advances, she either wants you too or she doesn't, no games...

There, now I've had my rant for the day..

Cheers, tylerD
 
Alf said:
I actually have a question for the nice guys... which girls are you trying to go after? The hot, confident, bitches (which, strangely enough, all the guys want and seem to correspond to your definition of "asshole".... or are you going after all girls? I have a sneaking suspicion that if you paid attention to the girls who are just like yourself, shy, maybe a little less traditionally hot... in other words, were actually a nice guy who believed what you were saying about personality and kindness should matter... maybe your luck might change?

hardly... i generally ONLY go for the shyier girls, though i have been for a few of the more popular types
with two of the girls ive seriously liked, ive been the ONLY person to ever seriously go for them, and they still decline
its weird
 
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