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Why are women attracted to men who are assholes?

the trick is being nice, while not seeming like a nice guy


girls will rarely ever date a guy who will kiss their asses 24/7


but if a guy who doesn't normally seem like a pushover-type shows a nice/sweet side to a girl, she will like that


the main reason why all-nice guy thing doesn't work is because eventually the girls start misinterpreting nice as pushover


sort of like too much of a good thing is not
 
We need more offensive rhetoric to keep this thread going...

I am so utterly God damn sick of hearing that "girls grow up" and will like nice guys routine. The point is moot because I'm anything but nice lately, but...(in my best Chris Rock voice)

Of COURSE girls "grow up" and "settle down" once they're most attractive years are over, once they've had their fun, once their options have started to narrow, SURE they'll ease up on ignoring nice dudes. And that's supposed to be reassuring to the nice guys! LMAO. If we all retained our looks ,figures, and fertility of our early twenties, I doubt sexual/relationship habits would change much AT ALL for our entire lives. The 30 and 40 yr old clocks women have would get bumped up to 60 and 70.

"Don't worry all you nice guys, once I'm done fucking all those assholes you hate, once they've had the best fruits, then I'm all yours..."

Are you kidding me?
 
You guyz just know it all .. eh??

FIRST OFF.. i never went for the bad-ass,tatooed hotties b/c I wanted to " change " them.. they're hot and tuff w/a sweet core
.... what the hell is soOO wrong w/that??

dunno, I always ended up being "the mom girlfriend" to most, I guess they were hard up for some of my strength or zometin'?
In the long run .. i t wasn't me 'growing up' and wanting a wet blanket dude ..... I just got tired of giving up all of my energy and not getting any back AKA.. TIRED OF BEING A MOM..!!!

NOW.. i just have a hard time finding a guy that can keep up w/me 1. In bed 2. In mind/spirt 3. physically
There is no nice guy/mean guy thang' involved.. as far as i go..

"I just want something that i can never have... " NIN

I'm a pretty adventuristic, and rebelous chic.. not to meantion
a poet as well...aspiring radio dj... sooo if anything, i think that i intimitate guys..they can't catch up w/me

SOME ADVICE : Talk to us, we won't bite unless you ask ;)
 
I still think there might be something of a selection effect going on here. Can it be proven, or strongly supported that "nice" guys are rejected by women who'd rather have "assholes", rather than that nice guys unintentionally fall for the same kind of women who are (supposedly) seeking assholes?
 
The Word said:


Of COURSE girls "grow up" and "settle down" once they're most attractive years are over, once they've had their fun, once their options have started to narrow, SURE they'll ease up on ignoring nice dudes. And that's supposed to be reassuring to the nice guys! LMAO. If we all retained our looks ,figures, and fertility of our early twenties, I doubt sexual/relationship habits would change much AT ALL for our entire lives. The 30 and 40 yr old clocks women have would get bumped up to 60 and 70.
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I can tell you've probably been rejected a few times, because you seem to have a lot of resentment towards women in general. Mind you, I AM 20 years old. I guess I am just mature for my age and know that trying to capture any "asshole" is a waste of my time and theirs.

Something does't sit right with me about your post. So, what I am taking from it is that you're telling me that all women who age become less attractive? And that when older women become less attractive that narrows their selection of men? And also that when women are younger they go after assholes because they are more attractive? So, that would mean that you are imlplying that all nice men are ugly. I'm also picking up that you hate "assholes", so that would mean you yourself are probably a nice guy *hard to believe from your sarcastic post*? So then, in turn, you would be calling yourself ugly.
 
WOW!!!!!!

I can't believe all the bullshit i've seen in this thread..

This is how I see it. If you're a guy and you want ass.. Most girls will go for the asshole. This is 100% true, and cannot be denied. They admit to it. I'm not talking about certain rare exceptions, I love those girls, they're real, somebody worth spending your time with.

So if you just want ass, thats where the whole "player" thing comes in. They're gonna play games and want an asshole, so play along be an asshole and give them exactly what they want, if all you want is to just get laid and you feel fine just fucking some girl whom you think is dumb for wanting assholes. Wtf do you lose out of it? Dick em over, i wouldnt' do it personally cause sex is not that important to me, but if you really need ass that bad... Find them, french them, finger them, fuck them, forget them. Thats all you gotta remember. 5 fs.. hehe.. When they get all pissed off at you after you cheat on them, or just fuck them and leave them, and complain that you're an asshole and have all their girlfriends talk about what an asshole you are, just go fuck their girlfriends too by being an asshole to them, they know they want you(if they're those kind that go for assholes, That'll really get them going.

You know what the funniest part of this whole thing is? I'm surprised nobody mentioned it yet. Maybe I just missed it. I'm sure all of you guys have heard a girl say "All guys are asshole, there isn't any nice guys out there". Come on, how often do you hear that shit? If you girls didn't want assholes, guess what? You wouldnt' be getting played out and fucked over like you are. Its your fault, so stop bitching about how all guys are assholes cause 80% of them are only assholes cause thats what girls want them to be and the ones that actually listen, are weak and insecure plus just fall into it to get play from you girls. And for all you girls that never fell into the asshole fetish, much props to you, and there are plenty of nice guys out there, i'm telling ya.. We're all around, and we're not all insecure, as a matter of fact, quite the opposite. I think there are more secure nice guys, then insecure ones. It takes a secure person to be nice, its easy to just be an asshole.

For all those gitrls who want to change their guys from assholes and tame them so to speak. --

Guess what? Trying to change a guy from being an asshole isn't going to work unless they're really a nice guy who is INSECURE and pretends to be an asshole to hide it. Exactly what you dont want, no? A guy who is an asshole(or probably just pretending to be to fuck you) and not insecure isn't going to change no matter what you do. 80% of the reason their an asshole(or pretending their an asshole to fuck you) in the first place, is because they used to be a nice guy, but because of girls like you who didnt' go for them, so they're now assholes. So they're going to see right through your little game of trying to change them and wanting them cause they're acting like an ass, play into it, get mad ass from you, fuck you over in the worst way they can think of because you make them that way and leave. Merry christmas, heres a video tape of me fucking your best friend on your bed, and oh yea, those cookies you're eating while watching this tape that i got you for you that was supposed to have something else on it, well.... those aren't really cookies,heh.. but i bet you can see that now that you're watching the tape. Thats what you wanted right? An asshole..Well you got one. Hope it was everything you had expected...

For all you girls that are real and see through all this typical social standard set bullshit that has been forced upon the people in todays society, and do not care to control or manipulate your guys, try to mold them into what you want them to be and then leave them once they get there, appreciate the love and honesty your man provides for you, how he treats you like a queen above all others and will do anything to make you happy, understand that its not all about just using your guy as your personal source for excitement, and actually love and treat this guy back equally without playing stupid mind games. I love all of you girls!! I wish all females were this way, and personally I dont even care to get anything from any of the other girls, cause I have found that I just regret having sex with them as soon as I'm done anyway, and that I was thinking with my dick instead of my brain. Lesson learned, and i'm not about to make the same mistake again and again and again.

Its not worth the effort. I'm not even going to try and pretend to be something I'm not, by burping loud as hell in public with no regard for anybody, being loud as hell and not letting anyone talk, getting into fights, getting myself arrested and into trouble, just acting like an idiot, not caring about other people, treating girls like property or just a piece of meat. All those things seem to be retarded to me. And if any girl wants that, then you know what, she can have it. I'll just stay here alone and perfectly content with that, cause i'd rather be alone then with some idiot who would pass up a guy who will actually respect them, for some idiot who will most likely go nowhere in life, except probably prison, or some other dead-end job, some guy full of himself or some other dumb ass who starts shit with somebody just for looking at them. Those girls are lame, they're trouble, and they're the real assholes. So all you nice guys... dont worry, what goes around comes around. Stick with it, and you'll get a girl that deserves you eventually, no matter how un-attractive or shy you are, if you're un-attractive or shy. Dont let dumb girls who go after idiots get you down.

Thats how I see it..

I'm sorry for the run on sentences, I'm really tired right now. I'm sorry if I come off with pissed off tone if there was one, i dont mean any offense to anybody and you all have my respect despite any differences I and whomever you are might have. I'm just sick of the bullshit that nice guys have to put up with just because they respect girls, I feel much better now that i got all that out.

So ....i'm off to bed.. heh

peace and much love to you all,

- tr
 
Tr6ai0ls4 said:
For all you girls that are real and see through all this typical social standard set bullshit that has been forced upon the people in todays society, and do not care to control or manipulate your guys, try to mold them into what you want them to be and then leave them once they get there, appreciate the love and honesty your man provides for you, how he treats you like a queen above all others and will do anything to make you happy, understand that its not all about just using your guy as your personal source for excitement, and actually love and treat this guy back equally without playing stupid mind games. I love all of you girls!! I wish all females were this way, and personally I dont even care to get anything from any of the other girls, cause I have found that I just regret having sex with them as soon as I'm done anyway, and that I was thinking with my dick instead of my brain. Lesson learned, and i'm not about to make the same mistake again and again and again.
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*sigh*

that's exactly what i want...but the ones i'm finding are queer. help!
 
DJ Kaotik,

I've been rejected a many times, accepted many times, but my "rate" doesn't really matter to me anymore. I have a lot of resentment toward people in general - but more so females as I'm in the unfortunate position of being physically attracted to many of them. So the resentment is toward pettiness and stupidity as always (whether in myself or others) but more generally toward the human condition. (which is also my condition) I might be ugly, take a look for yourself in the pictures section...

I'm not talking in absolutes, there are ugly assholes, hot assholes, ugly nice guys, hot nice guys, you name it. If I say 'as women age, their looks fade' without saying ALL, then I mean "in general." Are there exceptions? Of course. Is this the general trend? Yes.

The two posts I made prior to my last are most representative of what I truly feel on the subject. (main theme: it's not nice v. asshole it's hot v. fat/ugly) The last post was mostly my kneejerk reaction to a girl saying "when we get older we wisen up" ESPECIALLY when said by a girl who has not yet taken her own advice. It was also meant to piss people off so this thread doesn't die.

So why does it bother me that girls hook up with assholes? It doesn't so much anymore because those aren't the girls I'm interested in, i.e. those with bad judgement or those who plan to "wise up" someday. For some reason a girl having sex with a guy who shouldn't be getting sex for any reason just pisses me off. I can't explain it.

The was I used to feel for a long time:
The thing I disliked most was "planned inconsistency." If what a girl really wants is to end up with an asshole, more power to her, she's being consistent. If a girl goes through an asshole phase unwittingly and then wises up, that's cool too, unfortunate but cool. But if what they really want is to end up with a nice low-risk guy but only after having an "asshole phase" they can later gleefully reflect on, that's what pissed me off - can't explain why. Maybe it's because I felt if you plan a phase then it's not truly a phase, you're just planning to be inconsistent so you can have your cake and eat it too.

The way I now feel:
I'm interested in so few girls that it doesn't really matter what any one girl does. But the Tr6ai0ls4 tome contains a lot of my current sentiment. Im not going to entertain certain types of girls any longer, I'm only out for a select few. If they're out for me too that rocks, but since most are taken there's always drugs.
 
Ya know...

If a normal guy is being an asshole to please a womans desires... technically, he's not being an asshole as he is only trying to please her.

Woah... my head...
 
People are putting too much thought into it.Most people are really primal and illogical.Esp women which is what we're talking about now.I'm not real sure there IS such a thing as a "nice" guy.as most nice guys are just men without the balls to be aggressive and let a woman know what they want.I think that is what seperates the assholes from the nice guy.We don't need to continue this thread for ANOTHER 7 pages.Go back and take the time to re-read whats been posted.it's all basically covered.Either you look good,have hobbies and don't worship a woman and bend to her every desire.Or your a no life having loser that thinks he'll only get/have what he wants by being subserviant to the woman her desires.

'Nuff said.

M.B.S.
 
Most people are really primal and illogical.Esp women which is what we're talking about now.
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that is by far nothing but an opinion...

I'm not real sure there IS such a thing as a "nice" guy.as most nice guys are just men without the balls to be aggressive and let a woman know what they want.I think that is what seperates the assholes from the nice guy.
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Being aggressive and being an asshole has nothign to do with each other. It just happens to be that most assholes are aggressive, other then that there really is no connection.

Also, its not the aggresivenes that seperates an asshole from a nice guy, its the fact that a nice guy is a guy who is not rude, does not abuse, demean, insult, harrass, hit, or do anything of the sort to females against their will. It has nothing to do with aggression, or being too insecure to tell a woman what they want. They just treat women with respect, that is all that seperates them from the assholes. Its not the aggresion that girls are after, i've seen plenty of straight out, open, and completely honest nice guys get dumped for somebody who is a disrespectfull loud-mouth idiot who takes woman for granted. It happens all the time. That is the issue being discussed here I believe, not the agression... no?

peace
 
My advice, date older women. Young women don't want a nice guy, they want the asshole guys. Older women have realized that the assholes aren't worth wasting time on and pursue the nice ones. Don't want to date older women? Be an asshole for awhile. It's more fun anyway ;)
 
I'm a nice guy -- we don't always finish last. :) It just takes a bit of patience, that's all. If you can't get what you want simply by being yourself, then you probably don't need it anyway...
 
*performs CPR on this thread*
*Realises it wasn't dead in the first place*
*Looks the other way like posters before*

And most importantly

*Adds nothing that hasn't been said before*

Spark

(I will not post when I'm drunk, I will not post whilst drunk... I will not... pass the vodka)
 
Never been in a relationship with a girl, but from my observations girls are very good at picking assholes whereas the decent guys who would like a steady relationship never actually meet anyone nice, or have the opportunity. Now I realise a lot of these girls aren't actually great catches (they themselves probably don't have the best personalities), and there are many out there wanting exactly the same thing, but what is the great attraction with bastards? :\
 
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