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Why are women attracted to men who are assholes?

Thank you!

Formerly fixed in the friend foundation, this fellow feels the frustration of other folks.

The friendship zone is a choice. Choose not to be there.
 
The truth

guys, guys, guys...

Everyone's forgotten the obvious...it's not nice/asshole... it is ur LOOKS that they judge you on.

If a good looking guy acts...

Nice: he is sweet and lovely
Quiet: he is a cute shy-guy,who they want to open up
Asshole: he's a bad bad boy who gets her going!

For an ugly bloke

Nice: he's nice, but "not my type"
Quiet: --completely ignored/uninterested--
Asshole: a stupid prick


now, for those of us who aren't brad pitts. We must attract the girls with our personalities - you gotta be confident, zestful, have an edge.. sly..a bit of spirit or whatever. It is in this area where the nice guys truely loose out and will forever hear "he's nice, but not my type".
 
also

You forgot RICH. If you want to see some absolute hotties walking around with old ugly fucks, just check out the carribean.

So yeah, you pretty much stuck with your looks, unless you get money. Or you have to be really exciting ALL the time. If not exciting, then interesting. And if not interesting, then mysterious.

If you've reached a certain age, then you have a good idea about what your "league" is. The only things that will get you to the majors are looks and/or money and/or personality. But my guess is that if you're a guy with average looks and average money who has a lot of trouble with women, then you don't have a great personality.

There are a few RARE girls that are drop dead gorgeous, down to earth, very cool, reasonably intelligent, and will go out with a nice, average guy. The problem is that most of them are married or get disillusioned with guys because no guy ever wants to let them go. They're rarely single. My advice is to drink. A lot.

Will this thread EVER die?
 
Raas said:
For an ugly bloke...

I'm not sure I can count myself as "ugly", but I'm not really in shape, and only half of my face works the way its supposed to (Ramsey Hunt Syndrome).

I'm also not a jerk.

I'm dating two fairly attractive women currently in non-exclusive relationships, and both situations involve sex occasionally.

The guys who spend time saying, "It's all about looks or money!" and "Girls want assholes boyfriends!" really just don't get women. It's that simple.

I'll let you in on a little secret. Most women harbor a secret desire to be their diametrical opposite. The nice girl wants to the life of the party. The woman with many partners often wants to find monogamy. The demure girl harbors dirty, dirty thoughts.

The grass is always greener.

Want to make huge strides with women? Treat them in a way that goes counter to what their conditioning expects. Speak of things outside of their experience.

"Treat a whore like a lady, and a lady like a whore."

Everybody seeks "connections" - but that way lies boredom. What most people (including myself) are looking for is not similarities, but differences. Why are women often attracted to foreign men? Because those men have the potential to bring something different into their lives.

So the next time you talk to a woman who you've just met, don't sit and say "Yeah - I went to school there too! Remember that teacher?", or "Yeah, I go there for coffee all the time too!" That's a waste of time and a wonderful step towards friendship.

Instead, take the opportunity to hint as to what makes you different, either in skills or experience. Everybody has something to offer - but if you don't spell it out, how will the women know?
 
Ya know..

i used to think like that.. the world is against met etc etc....

now granted. . i personally dont think im much more then average looking..
(here ill even show ya :p)

The great Hiroshi

Now i had 2 females that i knew that i would always joke with trying to get them to "go get nekked" with me etc etc..
but i was always that "nice guy/friend" or whatever..

And once i started walkin around like i owned the club we frequent at, and acting semi-arrogant (re: confident) I ended up sleeping with both of em in a 24 hr period.. and these were 2 people who had signed me off as someone they would NEVER sleep with.. (and i had known both of em for at least 2 years)..

But once i had a shift in attitude.. something just clicked..


but im not really out for the one-night stand type shit..
Found a good girl, that i used to tease the same as above, who finally became single and we hit it off... but i fucked up cuz i stuck with my attitude a bit too much.. and ended up treating her like a roomate rather then a gf.. and I burned myself hard on it...

Lately ive noticed ive fallen back into the "nice guy" (as so many people like to stereotypically put it) mentality... and it hasnt really gotten me anywhere.. so....
maybe its time for a change again :p 8)


and theres another thing that EVERYONE needs to learn and understand..

when people sit there and think " my life sucks. .im ugly.. nobody likes me im too nice"

theres that saying (which i may butcher but the point is still there)

and thats..


How can someone be happy with you, if your not happy with yourself.

(wow i should take my own advice sometimes lol)
 
Petersko -

You have either come out with a genious insight, that could change our love lives forever... or you've completely lost the plot.

I can't quite figure out what one it is... :\ Your vocabulary was too much for my simple mind

Hirosho - yes ur right too, one night of confidence and cockyness and they go straight for you. When your in that mind-state you just know that they will like it - and they do.
 
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What can I say? It works for me!

Of course, one could always do their women-shopping at 2:00 a.m. out front of a seedy, orange-brown tavern whose only identifying mark is a verticle sign saying "HOTEL"... quality women can be had there for a half-bottle of warm liquor.
 
Well can't let such a long thread die.

I arrived at university as a pretty nice guy. Ok sod that, I arrived as a sufficiently nice guy that my feminine side was emphasised to such an extent that half of my college still thinks I'm gay. Fell straight into the friends zone with every girl I met.

Luckily I met an ex-friend called Alex. Alex is a bit of a wanker really and our friendship later ended because he was. However hanging with him did teach me the simple 'Ask and you'll be surprised what you receive' It seems to me that I've realised that people (read girls) will rarely actually say no to a request that's halfway to sensical. They might need a dash of persuasion but there's not much more to it. I guess my single sex schooling is set up a bit of a them and us mentality and the last couple of years have undone that for me. Girls like to get drunk, they like to kiss and they like to have sexual fun. The problem is if you're nice then you won't ask for any of the above, you have to wait until a very assertive girl makes the move for you.

I'm nowhere near to being as forward as I'd like to be with girls, I'm great on a social basis and will lead conversations/drinking games whatever but certainly haven't cracked clubbing. I've only ever asked a single girl to dance, but even without sorting that out, I've had a fair bit more sexual experience than most of my peers and (at last) got myself a decent girlfriend (Ex-stripper. I am in the happy place)

I guess the Nice Guy thing is a proper Catch 22 situation. Get with a girl and suddenly you're sending out 'I am confident/alpha male' signals, but to get with a girl you'd need to be sending the signals...

I'm with many of the other posts, try your hardest to change. I'm nowhere near as far down the pushy/assertive track as I intend to go but I'm already seeing the benefits.

Sparx
 
i think if you take peter O's statements and the comments about your looks you got it....

One thing though i have yet to read, is add in the other concepts, things that at this time you can't control. Like i am constantly wondering why I only get flings and what not and can't hold a relationship....well i live in indiana but all i do all week is work and go to school then on the weekends im in Ohio. Therefore the fun side of me, the one that will gain attention, only gets seen in ohio. Also if all you do is work work work then you dont have time for a special other. SO be honest with yourself if you dont have the time, or whatever your situation is for whatever reason you cant obtain a relationship then realize it and do something about it.

Currently im tryin to lose a little weight cause im a big kid i know i am...at clubs i am tryin to walk around with a little confidence and i am always dancing whether in a breakers circle or other wise and grls love that...

Basically dont feel sorry for yourself...be yourself if you think something about you needs to be better then make it better... be yourself and be confident abotu yourself hold yourself like your this shit and no one else matters if you do two things will happen from this
1. You will feel better about yourself
2. The Females will notice

Woman for the most part from what i have found like to feel protected and safe and they like to have their confidence raised (yes even the ones that are already conceited enough)

ok i think ive said enough but from one nice guy to another
hang in there yo and remember hold ya self like no one around you is better you are the shit
one love,
kyle
 
right.. women arent mind readers either..

you DO have to ask/initiate alot of the time..
to quote a friend who i had a brief fling with..
she goes

"I never even though of him in a sexual way until one day he blurted out "So when ya gunna let me hit it"



(course I was jokin @ the time but aparantly it worked lol)
 
Petersko said:
Raas said:

I'm not sure I can count myself as "ugly", but I'm not really in shape, and only half of my face works the way its supposed to (Ramsey Hunt Syndrome).

I'm also not a jerk.

I'm dating two fairly attractive women currently in non-exclusive relationships, and both situations involve sex occasionally.

The guys who spend time saying, "It's all about looks or money!" and "Girls want assholes boyfriends!" really just don't get women. It's that simple.

I'll let you in on a little secret. Most women harbor a secret desire to be their diametrical opposite. The nice girl wants to the life of the party. The woman with many partners often wants to find monogamy. The demure girl harbors dirty, dirty thoughts.

The grass is always greener.

Want to make huge strides with women? Treat them in a way that goes counter to what their conditioning expects. Speak of things outside of their experience.

"Treat a whore like a lady, and a lady like a whore."

Everybody seeks "connections" - but that way lies boredom. What most people (including myself) are looking for is not similarities, but differences. Why are women often attracted to foreign men? Because those men have the potential to bring something different into their lives.

So the next time you talk to a woman who you've just met, don't sit and say "Yeah - I went to school there too! Remember that teacher?", or "Yeah, I go there for coffee all the time too!" That's a waste of time and a wonderful step towards friendship.

Instead, take the opportunity to hint as to what makes you different, either in skills or experience. Everybody has something to offer - but if you don't spell it out, how will the women know?


^^^ By jove I think he's got it!

It's all about intrigue. Bringing out parts of our personality we haven't uncovered yet. Pushing boundaries.

Yes yes yes. Don't be afraid to disagree, challenge, show your darker sides..... =D
 
ok for all I know this could already be said, I'm not gonna go through 4 pages of posts to check.

I'm a nice guy, I finish last.
Yes, girls do want nice guys, girls want nice guys to MARRY. If she's not looking to marry you, she's looking for a confident guy. Confident guys are assholes.

The truth of the matter is, nice guys don't have to finish last. If you are a nice guy who isn't shy and is confidence, you probably can get plenty of booty. The problem with that is, most guys that are nice are probably nice because they are shy.

It's all about how you present yourself. If you walk to a girl and kiss the feet she walks on and worship her like you are the luckiest man alive to be with here, she's gonna thing just that, you are LUCKY to be with her. If you present yourself as if she should be lucky to be with you/you could care less if she is or not, she's gonna think you have more to offer.

Think of it this way, if you were buying a car, and you saw two dealerships with a car you wanted, one guy was begging you to buy his car, like he would be the luckiest man alive to get rid of it, the other person says eh, if you don't want it, i can easily find someone else who will buy it, probably for more than what your offering. Who's car sounds like its better? not the guy who has to BEG to get rid of it....

of course, this is coming from a nice guy who doesn't get girls so.... maybe i'm totally wrong on this :)

trippies
 
Prehapse the nice guys should stop chasing all the bad girls and give the nice ones who have been under there noses all the time a try!!!

Excuses, excuses.....
 
Johny Boy said:
Prehapse the nice guys should stop chasing all the bad girls and give the nice ones who have been under there noses all the time a try!!!

Excuses, excuses.....

That's what I'm talkin' about!!
 
The reason most guys that dont get chicks think nice guys dont get girls is becuase they are looking in the totally opposite direction...

Im not making an outright statement, but MOST overly attractive girls I have met/talked to can basically provide me with nothing but a nice sexual interaction.....and I'm about willing to have sex with anything, so putting up with some moany girl isnt going to make me happy... I need someone that is chill and down to earth.. **most hot girls are high-maitenance sluts.

Nice guys dont finish last, nice guys are just shy....and are looking at your typical hot girl with a bitch attitude and wondering why mr hardass gets them over himself....

So take my way of life... and go find some down to earth chill girlies... that are attractive... they might not bad hot, but they are very attractive, and WAY more fun/interesting than your typcial sorority prostitute, or commonly referred to as sorostitute...

dont get me wrong though, ive met very down to earth hot girls, but they are verrry rare...

besides.. if they are attractive and cool, what more is there to ask for? well, maybe some toys ;oP
 
Petersko

The ancient greeks only wished for three things: health, wealth, and to have turned out good looking!

I didn't say girls ONLY go for good looking guys. They go for good looking guys OR guys that interest them OR guys with great personalities. I'll throw in a little obligatory self-disclosure - a lot of very attractive girls think I'm quite attractive, not the hottest but I don't suffer from looks. I can be very funny and gregarious if I make the effort and can usually hold a girl for about one to four weeks with PERSONALITY before she realizes how UNINTERESTING I really am. This is because I am not interested in much myself. This is consistent with what people are saying about "having your own life" - this means you have interests and pursue them and the girls sees how interested or passionate or whatever you are about these interests, and it makes you - you guessed it - interesting, bingo!

Petersko - that's all right on, but I have to point out that you can use all sorts of psychology in the short term, I do it all the time, and it works. But to consistently date very attractive women long-term, you need to be close to their attractiveness level, or be damn funny, intriguing, interesting, something.

The problem with this whole thread is that girls DO go for nice guys (and once again I'm using nice as a proxy for unattractive, boring, and/or an open book) but these girls are not the type these nice guys WANT. They want the hot ones with the tight bodies and bubbly personalities - the opposite of themselves. (much like the Petersko theory) And whoever said that guys want hot bitchy girls I beg to differ. If a girl - no matter how hot - acts like a bitch all the time I write her off almost instantly. Who wants to deal with all that jive?

Raas is so right too - I read an article about this years ago - e.g. if a guy gives a girl flowers that have a supermarket price sticker on them: A. The girl is attracted to the guy, his oversight is cute and impish and she appreciates the thought anyway. B. The girl is not attracted to the guy, he's ignorant, inconsiderate, and just not on top of things.

Hm since I haven't read pages 1-4 in a long time, I may have repeated tons of crap other people already said. Oh well, I actually hope to be proven wrong, to restore my faith that some intelligent hottie will fall for an attractive, honest, and boring guy like me!

*pops open a guiness*
 
my views and experience only......

There is a difference in being a nice guy, and someone who is pathetic. A girl doesnt want someone who totaly worships her, the relationship becomes unbalanced and then you get comments like ' your too good for me' and ' you can have anyone else you wanted' which = run forest ruuuuuunnnn!
he may bring her flowers, take her out to dinner/movies and listen to her problems, he would do anything she asked... Is this an asshole .. noooooooo many people would say. But does he have his own opinions, his own mates, his own life??? probably not and this is most likely why the girl will ditch his sorry ass. Then she is seen as the uncaring bitch who likes to chase bad - asses. Sometimes its easy to stand on the outside and look in but you may not be seeing absolutley everything.....

But in addition, there are some girls who just go for idiot guys, either out of habit or just unlucky. Some girls may tend to go for abusive or manipulative guys as this is all they know and it is a comfort zone for them if you like, anyone who treats them any different will make them feel uncomfortable. It may be they have been surrounded with this kind of environment from birth.

Some girls fall in love easy and find that no matter how bad the guy will treat them they cant let go....its too late

and finaly some chicks just like the thrill of the chase and try and tame the wild one..

these are acutally 4 kinds of girls that i know!!!

there is a whole lot of reasons why people go out with the ones that they do, but if your not the one for them who cares!! there is someone for you somewhere... its just a matter of time
 
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